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Date nights falling flat on its face, partner says I’m being a spoilt brat/unreasonable when I explain my feelings on the matter

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 15:03

Been long term with my partner of 8 years. I’m 45, he is 56

I know its common for the honeymoon period to wear off and you can easily fall into a rut with each other, the longer you are together sometimes it just requires a bit of effort.

For the first 4/5 years, our date nights were great. Partner would ask if I wanted to go for a nice date in a restaurant, I would book it, We would put effort into our clothes, have nice conversation, laugh and there was always sexual tension/seduction/flirting followed by nice sex after it. We both enjoyed ourselves and looked forward to these.

The past year or so especially, our dates have been nothing like this and I have tried to address this with partner, because I miss that with him but as far as he is concerned, I am being a spoilt brat (his words), and unreasonable for asking that we both try put a little bit more effort into it.

The reason I feel like there’s room for improvement is because our dates now are very different.

  • Partner started getting into the habit of having his phone during the meal and responding to text messages. He had previously been of the view that that was rude when you’re on a romantic date….suddenly, its ok.
  • The date nights started becoming ‘business as usual’, ie, talking about problems we might be having with our kids, bills, work, practicalities. No sexy ambience to it. I can’t remember that last time we went on a date night and had sex after it.
  • Asks for a romantic day out and we end up looking at the men’s section of clothes, or watches etc

Honestly, while it’s pleasant and cordial enough, it feels too casual and almost platonic.

He keeps asking the day before these dates if im excited and looking forward to it. I genuinely do but end up feeling disappointed when there’s hardly any romantic edge to it now.

I have brought this up asking if we could improve on this. He is not open or receptive to hearing this kind of thing and its real, real hard work because he immediately feels that I am attacking him for suggesting we try put more effort in and THAT becomes the issue.

After manoeuvring around all that, he eventually says ok, will put more into it. This was weeks ago.

Our last date, last week, we planned to spend a nice day together followed by a meal. He said he’s looking forward to a romantic day with me (we dont live together).

The day was very nice, sweet, affectionate etc. He said this is a nice date etc…Then he asked me to go into a shirt shop with him. He wanted to get shirts. He didn’t know which ones so asked me to pick them. It took a while because there were different sections, different styles etc and he had no input at all, it was all for me to pick.

He wanted 3 shirts and me to pick them. I did and then we left and went for a meal later.

i said to him that I felt like staff or a personal assistant. He has never ever done that before. Meaning if we are out on a date and he treats himself, he would always treat me too even if it was small, I appreciated the sentiment.

He also knew that I was skint and I felt like it was being insensitive to that by having me painstakingly pick 3 shirts for him on a DATE, spoiling himself and getting me to do the work of it.

I just felt like it was really self focused and he already agreed to put more effort in

He says I am a spoilt brat for and unbelievable for this and for feeling like our date nights are just too casual, and asking for us to put more effort in as a couple to keep the spark alive.

AIBU?

i would really appreciate some perspective here, thanks

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Chonkadoodle · 11/02/2025 19:13

Time to move on - date younger! Thank me later!

Oodlesandoodlesofnoodles · 11/02/2025 19:16

Phones on the table and texting other people when you’re having a meal is rude. Even just normal dinner at home. Phones are designed to be addictive and it creeps up on you but it’s so important to have that as a family rule (In my opinion). I don’t think you’re spoilt for wanting his full attention when you’re out for a meal together.

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 19:16

FinallyHere · 11/02/2025 19:09

he is that man that receives endless blow jobs and im lucky if i get the favour returned about once every 3 months

And you are that women whose behaviour suggests that you are ok with this situation, which appears to be quite long established.

Sorry, this really is beyond my understanding.

It's as if you are describing someone else's behaviour rather than your own. What's preventing you from taking action on your own behalf?

In all honesty, and i am not being facetious, its that I question whether I am being a spoilt brat or not for pondering this

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FinallyHere · 11/02/2025 19:26

Well, in that case Mumsnet is exactly tbd right place for you to consider whether you are a spoilt brat.

How can you be spoilt (in the sense of being indulged) given what you have described about your sex life.

I've not read anything in your posts to give me any insight into what he offers you, how your life is better for having him in it.

Try it, being alone is not so bad. Much better than being required to perform sexual favours for little return and then being called names.

Wherever did you get the idea that this is about deserve ?

samarrange · 11/02/2025 19:32

5128gap · 11/02/2025 16:23

The whole thing sounds incredibly forced and unnatural to me. You seem to have such a prescriptive idea that the dates should look like, almost like you're assessing him as you go along and ticking off boxes. Time spent with a significant other, especially long term should be a relaxed go with the flow situation. Sometimes it's flirty, sometimes serious, sometimes mundane, whatever you're feeling at the time, because you should be free to be yourself with each other. If I were him I'd be feeling a lot of pressure and as though I was just playing the romantic lead in your date scenario rather than a person you wanted to spend time with.

The whole thing sounds incredibly forced and unnatural to me.

Many years ago, a couple of friends of ours thought they were in a rut. Kids 4 and 2 doesn't leave much time for fun. So they made every Thursday into date night, and were very pleased with themselves. We and a couple of other friends chortled slightly because they really were quite precious about it.

Six months in to this "relationship-strengthening" exercise, the man ran off with another woman.

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 19:38

samarrange · 11/02/2025 19:32

The whole thing sounds incredibly forced and unnatural to me.

Many years ago, a couple of friends of ours thought they were in a rut. Kids 4 and 2 doesn't leave much time for fun. So they made every Thursday into date night, and were very pleased with themselves. We and a couple of other friends chortled slightly because they really were quite precious about it.

Six months in to this "relationship-strengthening" exercise, the man ran off with another woman.

Edited

I have had that nagging feeling. I didn’t always have it, then one day i suddenly realised I have this nagging feeling there’s other options

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SecondMrsTanqueray · 11/02/2025 19:38

Sounds horrible. You’re wasting your life here. An already failed relationship that’s dragging on interminably in some sort of weird halfway house.

And don’t settle for someone that thinks it’s ok to name call. It isn’t.

Oodlesandoodlesofnoodles · 11/02/2025 19:42

samarrange · 11/02/2025 19:32

The whole thing sounds incredibly forced and unnatural to me.

Many years ago, a couple of friends of ours thought they were in a rut. Kids 4 and 2 doesn't leave much time for fun. So they made every Thursday into date night, and were very pleased with themselves. We and a couple of other friends chortled slightly because they really were quite precious about it.

Six months in to this "relationship-strengthening" exercise, the man ran off with another woman.

Edited

I’m sorry to say I have noticed a correlation between friends who post “date night” on social media and marriages which subsequently break up. It’s like they’re trying to show the world they have a great marriage or trying a bit too hard. Of course go for a nice meal with your partner. There’s something about posting on line though and calling it “date night” that just seems a bit much.

Crikeyalmighty · 11/02/2025 19:45

OP sounds like is in need of princess treatment if out with partner - we go out most Fridays to local wine bar, and to be honest a lot is exactly as she describes, business, his elderly father, coming up expenditure, our son in London - all over a nice bottle - and yes he often answers the odd business email/text - maybe others gave higher expectations than me but in all fairness I don't want sexy flirty talk with a 60 year old guy - husband or not anymore - that's maybe just me

Ankhmo · 11/02/2025 19:46

Jesus Christ. Why the fuck would tolerate this bullshit?

You're a grown woman.
This is the sort of shite a teenager with their first crush shouldn't even put up with.

Tell him get fucked.

Completelyjo · 11/02/2025 19:48

samarrange · 11/02/2025 19:32

The whole thing sounds incredibly forced and unnatural to me.

Many years ago, a couple of friends of ours thought they were in a rut. Kids 4 and 2 doesn't leave much time for fun. So they made every Thursday into date night, and were very pleased with themselves. We and a couple of other friends chortled slightly because they really were quite precious about it.

Six months in to this "relationship-strengthening" exercise, the man ran off with another woman.

Edited

So you and this woman’s mutual friends laughed when she was trying to make her failing marriage work … and then she got cheated on?
Not sure what you’re trying to do with that story other that admit you’re an arsehole

Quitelikeit · 11/02/2025 19:52

You need a date NIGHT - then shops are closed 😂😂

Getting offended because he didn’t buy you a gift? Honestly I’m struggling with you now

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 20:02

Completelyjo · 11/02/2025 19:48

So you and this woman’s mutual friends laughed when she was trying to make her failing marriage work … and then she got cheated on?
Not sure what you’re trying to do with that story other that admit you’re an arsehole

i dont think its funny per say, but gotta admit when a man switches off, its prudent to think if he’s seeing someone else…….seems to be the way.

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 20:06

Oodlesandoodlesofnoodles · 11/02/2025 19:42

I’m sorry to say I have noticed a correlation between friends who post “date night” on social media and marriages which subsequently break up. It’s like they’re trying to show the world they have a great marriage or trying a bit too hard. Of course go for a nice meal with your partner. There’s something about posting on line though and calling it “date night” that just seems a bit much.

We do that all the time…just regular shit out…shopping, errands, cooking, all that majority of time.

He also said that this date night should be prioritised and keeps going on about how wonderful its going to be, how much he wants to see me in my nice underwear, how romantic its going to be…..we get there and its this….hes the one who has been building it up

for clarification…most of our time spent Together is normal random run of the mill stuff

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Hello12345678910 · 11/02/2025 20:07

If you'd been together 8 months then yeah... 8 years?!?.....

7 year itch springs to mind

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 20:10

I even said a few weeks ago, let’s not call this a date because honestly, the best times we have had together have been unplanned.

he said ok, but i want to have a really romantic time etc…

FWIW, i also think the whole emphasis on a date night is silly…..but im the one being asked to plan that and agree to it and turn up with this wild mills and boons mask on.

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 20:10

Hello12345678910 · 11/02/2025 20:07

If you'd been together 8 months then yeah... 8 years?!?.....

7 year itch springs to mind

I have even quoted that myself and said wtf? Is this 7 year itch

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 20:12

Quitelikeit · 11/02/2025 19:52

You need a date NIGHT - then shops are closed 😂😂

Getting offended because he didn’t buy you a gift? Honestly I’m struggling with you now

It wasn’t that, it was the deviation from the norm and the attitude shift , which has been a theme f0r a while now

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Dotto · 11/02/2025 20:14

Why are you wasting your time (and ours) on this loser? Your love isn't worth shit to him.

Bestfootforward11 · 11/02/2025 20:29

I understand where you’re coming from and he seems a bit thoughtless. But I feel the date night thing can feel a bit forced as in either of you just might not feel in the mood on the set night for whatever reason and when you’re with a long term partner you don’t want to force things. Rather than a ‘romantic’ evening, maybe plan activities so you share new experiences, you pick one, he picks the next. I also think it’s hard to have a date night type evening when you don’t feel otherwise feel connected to your partner from day to day to living. I wonder if that might be relevant? I’ll be honest my DH and I do not do many date nights because we are often working when the other isn’t but we find little moments like going out for a quick coffee/drink when waiting for our daughter at an activity or even just sitting in the car chatting listening to music. Bringing each other a coffee in the morning, picking up something we know the other likes etc. I’m not saying it’s all sunshine and roses but there is romance to be found in the little things. We also really talk, more than we ever did before, and appreciate each other more too which makes the relationship feel deeper (we also sometimes drive each nuts!). Anyway, no easy answers and every situation is different but just some thoughts.

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 20:29

if someone is blowing it up and saying its gonna be a romantic night, youre so sexy, are you’re excited for the date night…cos we dont live together and i said i want to date you, and after it are gonna get down and do this to me and that to you…..

i turn up in that mode, in that space cos he’s bumped it up, i get there and its business as usual….

ok, thank you everyone for your views…..i have totally taken on the negative responses and tried to own my part in that…

i have appreciated every single one of your answers

my general consensus is that he is an asshole who doesn’t have my back and when i get upset about that, he calls me a pathetic cunt and stop this thinking so much….youre too sensitive and you can’t take a joke……i have his back and there’s nothing I wouldn’t have done for him…..so this hurts, but im slowly accepting that i need to just get the fuck out of this

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 20:31

Bestfootforward11 · 11/02/2025 20:29

I understand where you’re coming from and he seems a bit thoughtless. But I feel the date night thing can feel a bit forced as in either of you just might not feel in the mood on the set night for whatever reason and when you’re with a long term partner you don’t want to force things. Rather than a ‘romantic’ evening, maybe plan activities so you share new experiences, you pick one, he picks the next. I also think it’s hard to have a date night type evening when you don’t feel otherwise feel connected to your partner from day to day to living. I wonder if that might be relevant? I’ll be honest my DH and I do not do many date nights because we are often working when the other isn’t but we find little moments like going out for a quick coffee/drink when waiting for our daughter at an activity or even just sitting in the car chatting listening to music. Bringing each other a coffee in the morning, picking up something we know the other likes etc. I’m not saying it’s all sunshine and roses but there is romance to be found in the little things. We also really talk, more than we ever did before, and appreciate each other more too which makes the relationship feel deeper (we also sometimes drive each nuts!). Anyway, no easy answers and every situation is different but just some thoughts.

I agree

he used to make me coffees in the morning but that is a rare event now. The most i get is, i loaded your cup btw, see you later

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Bestfootforward11 · 11/02/2025 20:33

Ok this is just awful to call you names. I’d been thinking maybe good to approach things differently but your update makes it clear this is not a relationship you need in your life. Forget the romance, there is no respect and basic decency. End it. You deserve much more.

Screamingabdabz · 11/02/2025 20:36

Ankhmo · 11/02/2025 19:46

Jesus Christ. Why the fuck would tolerate this bullshit?

You're a grown woman.
This is the sort of shite a teenager with their first crush shouldn't even put up with.

Tell him get fucked.

Oh thank fuck someone said it.

samarrange · 11/02/2025 20:38

Completelyjo · 11/02/2025 19:48

So you and this woman’s mutual friends laughed when she was trying to make her failing marriage work … and then she got cheated on?
Not sure what you’re trying to do with that story other that admit you’re an arsehole

We were actually mostly the man's mutual friends. And we didn't know their marriage was "failing". (Maybe it wasn't. Maybe the man didn't meet OW until after 5 of the 6 months.) And we were chortling among ourselves. You know, the way people do when they think their friends are maybe being a tiny little bit OTT about something. If that made us arseholes, 30 years ago, then so be it.

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