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Date nights falling flat on its face, partner says I’m being a spoilt brat/unreasonable when I explain my feelings on the matter

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Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 15:03

Been long term with my partner of 8 years. I’m 45, he is 56

I know its common for the honeymoon period to wear off and you can easily fall into a rut with each other, the longer you are together sometimes it just requires a bit of effort.

For the first 4/5 years, our date nights were great. Partner would ask if I wanted to go for a nice date in a restaurant, I would book it, We would put effort into our clothes, have nice conversation, laugh and there was always sexual tension/seduction/flirting followed by nice sex after it. We both enjoyed ourselves and looked forward to these.

The past year or so especially, our dates have been nothing like this and I have tried to address this with partner, because I miss that with him but as far as he is concerned, I am being a spoilt brat (his words), and unreasonable for asking that we both try put a little bit more effort into it.

The reason I feel like there’s room for improvement is because our dates now are very different.

  • Partner started getting into the habit of having his phone during the meal and responding to text messages. He had previously been of the view that that was rude when you’re on a romantic date….suddenly, its ok.
  • The date nights started becoming ‘business as usual’, ie, talking about problems we might be having with our kids, bills, work, practicalities. No sexy ambience to it. I can’t remember that last time we went on a date night and had sex after it.
  • Asks for a romantic day out and we end up looking at the men’s section of clothes, or watches etc

Honestly, while it’s pleasant and cordial enough, it feels too casual and almost platonic.

He keeps asking the day before these dates if im excited and looking forward to it. I genuinely do but end up feeling disappointed when there’s hardly any romantic edge to it now.

I have brought this up asking if we could improve on this. He is not open or receptive to hearing this kind of thing and its real, real hard work because he immediately feels that I am attacking him for suggesting we try put more effort in and THAT becomes the issue.

After manoeuvring around all that, he eventually says ok, will put more into it. This was weeks ago.

Our last date, last week, we planned to spend a nice day together followed by a meal. He said he’s looking forward to a romantic day with me (we dont live together).

The day was very nice, sweet, affectionate etc. He said this is a nice date etc…Then he asked me to go into a shirt shop with him. He wanted to get shirts. He didn’t know which ones so asked me to pick them. It took a while because there were different sections, different styles etc and he had no input at all, it was all for me to pick.

He wanted 3 shirts and me to pick them. I did and then we left and went for a meal later.

i said to him that I felt like staff or a personal assistant. He has never ever done that before. Meaning if we are out on a date and he treats himself, he would always treat me too even if it was small, I appreciated the sentiment.

He also knew that I was skint and I felt like it was being insensitive to that by having me painstakingly pick 3 shirts for him on a DATE, spoiling himself and getting me to do the work of it.

I just felt like it was really self focused and he already agreed to put more effort in

He says I am a spoilt brat for and unbelievable for this and for feeling like our date nights are just too casual, and asking for us to put more effort in as a couple to keep the spark alive.

AIBU?

i would really appreciate some perspective here, thanks

OP posts:
MabelMora · 11/02/2025 17:06

Anxioustealady · 11/02/2025 16:58

I see it now. Rude tone to your comment. I did ask if I'd missed it.

Take it however you want 🤷‍♀️.

MrsSunshine2b · 11/02/2025 17:06

Where is the relationship going? You're nearly a decade in, and your whole relationship seems to be meeting up for "dates". It's stagnated because it's not moving in any direction. Going out for a romantic dinner followed by sex is a nice thing for a couple to do but if after 8 years it's ALL you do then there's no substance to the relationship.

Mrsttcno1 · 11/02/2025 17:06

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 17:03

That’s how I read it, it was getting to the crunch and basically she had her hand out and it’s annoyed her he didn’t buy her something, otherwise she’d have been perfectly happy with the date. With the excuse she’s skint so he should be buying her stuff in return for her picking his shirts.

if you want paying that’s staff.

Agree with this and if that comes across even in OP’s own words on here then I can imagine it comes across exactly the same to him, so his comments of ungrateful/spoilt make total sense

RawBloomers · 11/02/2025 17:09

Notonthestairs · 11/02/2025 17:01

So unless he buys you something you feel like staff?

You said the rest of the date was nice, sweet, affectionate. You had a nice meal together. Sounds good.
The gap and irritation appears to be the lack of a gift for you.

Obviously you should end any relationship if you are unhappy. There is little point in continuing to spend time together otherwise.

I think the gap and irritation are having part of the date hijacked to be a shopping trip for him with OP expected to run around making him the centre of attention and the nothing reciprocated. It’s only about him buying her something because he’d decided to make shopping a part of the date when she has no money. In the past that reciprocation has been him buying her something small but now there is no reciprocation he just centres himself.

Creameded · 11/02/2025 17:10

Time to have a think.
He's not pushed and the spoilt brat remark is really rude.
He's a lot older than you so perhaps this is it.
You don't live together so perhsps tkme to suggest a break.
Him being on the phone makes me think he could be on dating sites.

mindutopia · 11/02/2025 17:10

I think the problem is that you have expected the feeling of ‘dating’ to last inordinately long because your relationship hasn’t progressed the way most relationships do - that is, towards living together, blended lives, mutual responsibilities.

Dh and I have been together 17 years. Our ‘date nights’ (we might have one a year, though sometimes we go to lunch while the kids are at school) are definitely not flirty or romantic and filled with excitement and innuendo. They are mostly just the rare chance to eat a really nice high end meal in an adult restaurant and to talk to each other. The thought of shopping and talking about clothes literally fills us both with abject horror.

But these meals would mostly be a chance to talk about our long term plans and goals. We actually talk a lot about our various attempts at planning permission for a building project, business goals, future holidays, extended family gossip. It’s totally not all fire and lace unless you think planning consultations are sexy! 😂

That said, he shouldn’t call you names (even if might be a bit annoying) and poor phone etiquette is very rude in anyone having a nice meal with someone.

PandaTime · 11/02/2025 17:13

It all sounds a bit repetitive. You're doing the same thing every time - meeting up then going for dinner. He likes it because he gets to spend time with you and it is low-effort at this stage because you've been doing it for so long. But you want more excitement which he is taking to mean spending time with him isn't enough for you. What would be exciting for you though? If you don't know, he's not going to know either.

YouDeserveBetterSoAskForIt · 11/02/2025 17:13

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 11/02/2025 16:41

I don’t think helping your partner choose shirts is that stressful.

I ask my partner if things look good. I can’t imagine him complaining about the mental labour of shopping for a few shirts with me.

OP it sounds to me like you have a very strict formula on what a romantic date looks like.

I don’t think he will live up to your expectations.

It's the fact that he wanted zero input and expected her to choose.

Not everyone loves shopping, I would find it stressful being in a store and expected to choose 3 shirts for someone else.

It IS something that would be mental labour for a lot of people and it is paired with the fact that he isn't making any effort on these dates. He is on his phone and not connecting with her and they aren't intimate.

I don't think OP is having outrageously high expectations to expect someone not to be texting on a date or expecting her to shop for him when he knows she doesn't enjoy it AND she has financial worries.

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 17:14

RawBloomers · 11/02/2025 17:09

I think the gap and irritation are having part of the date hijacked to be a shopping trip for him with OP expected to run around making him the centre of attention and the nothing reciprocated. It’s only about him buying her something because he’d decided to make shopping a part of the date when she has no money. In the past that reciprocation has been him buying her something small but now there is no reciprocation he just centres himself.

lol, she could have said no, I want to do x instead. Stunned anyone thinks yeah ok I will go shopping if you pay me is acceptable .

Dror · 11/02/2025 17:16

Since the relationship is very casual and only based on dates (no shared life) and you're not longer enjoying the dates, it's over, surely?
Men who call their girlfriend names are trash.

failingrocks · 11/02/2025 17:17

’Date nights’? 🤢

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 11/02/2025 17:20

failingrocks · 11/02/2025 17:17

’Date nights’? 🤢

What’s wrong with date nights?

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 11/02/2025 17:21

YouDeserveBetterSoAskForIt · 11/02/2025 17:13

It's the fact that he wanted zero input and expected her to choose.

Not everyone loves shopping, I would find it stressful being in a store and expected to choose 3 shirts for someone else.

It IS something that would be mental labour for a lot of people and it is paired with the fact that he isn't making any effort on these dates. He is on his phone and not connecting with her and they aren't intimate.

I don't think OP is having outrageously high expectations to expect someone not to be texting on a date or expecting her to shop for him when he knows she doesn't enjoy it AND she has financial worries.

She never said she didn’t enjoy shopping.

She said she was upset he didn’t buy anything for her.

Big difference.

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 17:24

I also think it’s over. I couldn’t get past the wanting paying for. Calling him buying himself three shirts as spoiling himself.

and as the op is skint. Using her words, if bet good money he’s paying for the meals etc too.

I’d be out.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 11/02/2025 17:25

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and the word 'nice'.
I was thinking when reading the OP I'd want something more than 'nice' from a relationship.

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 17:25

YouDeserveBetterSoAskForIt · 11/02/2025 17:13

It's the fact that he wanted zero input and expected her to choose.

Not everyone loves shopping, I would find it stressful being in a store and expected to choose 3 shirts for someone else.

It IS something that would be mental labour for a lot of people and it is paired with the fact that he isn't making any effort on these dates. He is on his phone and not connecting with her and they aren't intimate.

I don't think OP is having outrageously high expectations to expect someone not to be texting on a date or expecting her to shop for him when he knows she doesn't enjoy it AND she has financial worries.

Fairly sure she’d have been more than happy to pick shirts if he got his wallet out bought her something after. The shopping wasn’t the issue. The fact he didn’t pay for her time was.

failingrocks · 11/02/2025 17:27

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 11/02/2025 17:20

What’s wrong with date nights?

OP’s obsession with it, after 8 years. The amount of times she mentions the word date. It’s a night out with your partner.
But I assume it’s AI written anyway, very repetitive.

LaundryPond · 11/02/2025 17:27

MrsSunshine2b · 11/02/2025 17:06

Where is the relationship going? You're nearly a decade in, and your whole relationship seems to be meeting up for "dates". It's stagnated because it's not moving in any direction. Going out for a romantic dinner followed by sex is a nice thing for a couple to do but if after 8 years it's ALL you do then there's no substance to the relationship.

Yes. I’m the last one to think all relationships by any means need to be heading towards cohabitation and/or marriage, but this doesn’t sound like either of you enjoy it much as is — it sounds like it has the least appealing parts of living apart AND living together.

Oh, and I could not shag a man who needs a woman to pick out his clothes. I mean, my 12 year old has been doing his own clothes shopping for years.

Dror · 11/02/2025 17:27

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 17:25

Fairly sure she’d have been more than happy to pick shirts if he got his wallet out bought her something after. The shopping wasn’t the issue. The fact he didn’t pay for her time was.

Pay for her time?! 😄

CaptainFuture · 11/02/2025 17:28

RawBloomers · 11/02/2025 17:09

I think the gap and irritation are having part of the date hijacked to be a shopping trip for him with OP expected to run around making him the centre of attention and the nothing reciprocated. It’s only about him buying her something because he’d decided to make shopping a part of the date when she has no money. In the past that reciprocation has been him buying her something small but now there is no reciprocation he just centres himself.

Right, so in relationships, one person can't buy something unless the other gets bought too? OP expected to run around making him the centre of attention and the nothing reciprocated.
Was she not just asked her opinion?!

Lilollipop · 11/02/2025 17:29

He has always been uncomfortable any time I treat him. He tells me not to do it. Anything from big to small, he says you dont have to do that. He also gets visibly uncomfortable thanking anyone, not just me for anything. That is how he has responded since I’ve known him.

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 11/02/2025 17:29

Anyone who called me an offensive name wouldn't be getting any more dates, and I'd be seriously considering whether the relationship had run its course.

Don't put up with name calling.

LaundryPond · 11/02/2025 17:31

mathanxiety · 11/02/2025 17:29

Anyone who called me an offensive name wouldn't be getting any more dates, and I'd be seriously considering whether the relationship had run its course.

Don't put up with name calling.

Yes, this too! A 45 year old woman isn’t a ‘brat’ of any kind.

Notonthestairs · 11/02/2025 17:31

If she didnt want to select shirts (and I wouldnt blame her) then I am sure she has a mouth in your head to say No.
I think she shopped because she thought it would lead to a gift.

And the lack of gift meant she thought she was treated as 'staff'.

Personally I dont know many people who are 'sweet and affectionate' to staff but there we go.

Obviously doesnt work for her - she's free to call it.

failingrocks · 11/02/2025 17:32

Gettingslimmer · 11/02/2025 17:25

Fairly sure she’d have been more than happy to pick shirts if he got his wallet out bought her something after. The shopping wasn’t the issue. The fact he didn’t pay for her time was.

Pay for her time!??

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