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For stopping a man taking his daughter in swimming pool changing room?

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Anotsolittlemermaid · 06/02/2025 23:58

I am a regular user but changed name for this as I’ve spoken to a few people about it so it could be outing. I apologise it’s quite a long post but couldn’t cut it much shorter as context is needed.

I have a monthly subscription to a gym with a swimming pool that’s part of a hotel, on a Wednesday there is women’s aqua aerobics from 7-8 then adult only time from 8pm till 10pm.

Yesterday evening I got to the pool at about 8.15 after aqua aerobics and there was a man who was just arriving at the pool with his young daughter who was about 4/5.

He was being quite annoying letting her disrupt people by jumping in where people were swimming, getting in the path of other swimmers, throwing floats used for aqua across the pool and he was picking her up and throwing her.
The little girl was shrieking and screaming and a few people gave annoyed looks over at him but he carried on getting in everyone’s way.

In the end after about 20 minutes a member of staff came over and asked the man to leave the pool as children’s hours had finished, he argued a bit saying he was trying to tire his daughter out so she would sleep but the staff member was firm and said there had been two sessions of children’s hours for 2 hours at a time earlier in the day that he had been welcome to use but people who wanted to swim properly deliberately avoided them and came later.

The women’s changing room was still busy after aqua and it was mostly women swimming in the pool who had stayed after aqua to continue swimming. The changing rooms are right next to the pool so you can hear when people are in them. The men’s seemed empty but the man and his daughter were also hotel guests so he could have wrapped a towel around her and gone back to the room. He had towels and a hotel robe for himself with him.

When he got out of the pool he put the robe on but took his daughter by the hand and walked towards the women’s changing room obviously intending to go in.

The changing room is open plan with only one cubicle, it had 8 showers, 4 are in cubicles but the other 4 are open, when I had undressed before swimming the changing room had been busy with lots of women using the showers and changing after aqua, there were obviously a few women still in there as I could hear chatting and the hairdryer going.

I had been swimming lengths at the edge of the pool opposite the changing room entrance so when I saw him heading to the women’s I called out to him “sorry but that’s the ladies and it’s busy, you can take your daughter to the men’s I’m sure it’s empty or can you not just put your towel around her and go to your room?”

The man glared at me and said he wasn’t taking his daughter into a room where men might be undressing and he had taken her into changing rooms before where no one had ever had a problem.

I said it was more likely they did have a problem but didn’t feel comfortable saying so, I was getting angry at this point so I said I’d go and get the member of staff to see what he said.

The man obviously knew the staff member wasn’t going to approve this and started ranting about how awful it was that first his daughter had been asked to leave the pool and now he couldn’t even get her dry and dressed again because of busy bodies sticking their oar in. Another women who was swimming and had overheard backed me up that it was completely inappropriate and no one over 8 is allowed in the opposite sex changing room. The man wasn’t happy but wrapped his daughter in the towel and took her his hotel room as I’d suggested. As he was wearing the robe I have no idea if he had planned to use the women’s changing room to shower and get changed himself or not.

I hate confrontation but the other women thanked me for saying something, I spoke to the staff member when I’d finished my swim and he agreed that the man should have used the men’s changing room where there was a free cubicle. He said he’d been cheeky enough bringing his daughter during adult hours when he’d been told earlier he wouldn’t be allowed when he’d asked about it.

I assumed most people would agree with me but my friend said I was completely out of order, she said the little girl was the one who was important and it was much safer and more appropriate for her to get changed in the ladies, she said most mums would be understanding about a father bringing his daughter in and could have got changed under a towel, when I mentioned he had also been in the pool and was possibly planning on getting undressed himself she said “well no one has to look if they don’t want to”
I didn’t want to keep discussing it with her as we had argued before years ago about her bringing her 11 year old son and nephews into ladies changing rooms and I realised she was the wrong person to mention it to.

I also mentioned it to DP and he said that I was right to stop the man going in the ladies but he equally feels uncomfortable when men bring their daughters in, he also swims and said the previous week a little girl had been running naked round the changing room whilst her dad was looking at his phone and he would never allow his daughter to do that as you just don’t know what other men are thinking.

There are no family changing rooms as it’s not really a kids pool with it being attached to a gym and it’s mainly set up for members comfort. The majority of people who bring kids are hotel guests who have rooms.

I don’t feel IABU really but after hearing my friend and DP’s opinion I just wondered what others thought about it. Was I wrong to suggest the man takes his daughter into the men’s changing room? On this occasion a cubicle was free but if it hadn’t been then do some people really think that women should be expected to get showered and undressed in front of a man when he could take her into the mens changing room?
I’m just interested in others thoughts.

There is also a disabled changing room but only one and in my opinion it’s wrong to take that over if you don’t have a disability.

OP posts:
latetothefisting · 09/02/2025 21:36

NoGwenItsABoxingDayTrifle · 09/02/2025 10:43

To reply to some of your comments, clearly in this situation the dad should have used his hotel room but he didn't for whatever reason.
I have a son and a stepdaughter, I met my stepdaughter when she was 4... So on most outings she would have come into public toilets with me. If she was alone with her dad he would have to use a disabled toilet or a bush. She would have gone ape shit if he had took her into a men's urinal. (Who can blame her)
As I've said, I was single for the first 12 years of my son's life. From memory if we were out and about and he needed the toilet again bush or disabled toilets. If that wasn't available he used the woman's toilet. This never caused a problem!
As I've said before, a boy was SA in a man's McDonald's toilet in my area. Extreme and rare I know but it made my mind up that I wouldn't send him into a men's toilet/changing room alone.
It's not ideal and it's why (like at my local swimming pool) there should be open plan unisex family changing rooms.
As others have also pointed out, boys (definitely my son) get to age 7/8 and don't want to share a cubicle with their mum. That's why the plan of cubicles makes more sense again, they can go next door where you can hear they are safe.
People can argue back all they want but I'm not going to change my opinion. I have been SA, flashed at, intimidated by to many men in my life that means I'd never want to send a child into a room full of naked men. I know we all did it with our dads forty years ago but times have moved on (thank god)
I also completely get that it's a risk to women to have a man wander into the changing area, like I said.. he should have used his room but failing that there should have been a third option for his daughter.
And before anyone says it, I'm aware that single parents of opposite sex children can decide to never go swimming but lots want to.

And before anyone says it, I'm aware that single parents of opposite sex children can decide to never go swimming but lots want to.

Your (or their) WANT doesn't trump everyone else's wants, or the swimming pool's rules, though.

Just like you follow all the other rules the pool has - wearing appropriate swimwear, paying for entry, not waterbombing other swimmers, not taking children to adult only sessions, children being accompanied in the pool, no pushing people in, etc.

If you want to go to a specific pool, and the rules of that pool are no children over 8 in the opposite sex changing room, then you follow that rule, or you don't go to that pool. It's as simple as that. You don't get to pick and choose. It's not that hard.

bythere · 09/02/2025 22:45

IridescentRainbow · 09/02/2025 09:11

My ex used to take my girls into the gents with him if I wasn’t there. There wasn’t a choice if he didn’t want to go into the ladies. This was in toilets and changing rooms. When I asked him about men in the urinals he said “If the girls look all they see is men standing with their backs to them, and it takes seconds to get into a cubicle “

My DH took our daughter(6 now) as well when out with her. He said there were never any issues with doing so. He would see little girls with their dads in there a lot himself; sometimes they might briefly glance at men using the urinals when they were having their hands washed at the sink or when walking past with their dads into a stall and no one ever said anything or seemed to care. Because they're young children, that's why, and accompanied by a parent.

Grammarnut · 10/02/2025 08:46

MumChp · 07/02/2025 00:03

No, I wouldn't be understanding that a father went into the womens' room to help his daughter. At all.
It sounds 100% bonkers.

When DGD was small DS took her into the men's changing rooms, alond with DGS, and used a cubicle.

chaosmaker · 11/02/2025 18:31

but if the idiot man had listened when he was told that there was NO child swimming at that time, none of this would have happened.

askmenow · 21/06/2025 18:54

Given I'd be showering in the communal showers in the nud, I'd be soooo pissed off if that bloke were to walk into the female changing rooms, daughter or not!
I'd have yelled at him to GET OUT! Pervert.
Pools should have cubicles for issues like this.
There's something to be said for the old victorian design pools where individual cubicles lined the sides of the room.

Given he had a hotel room available, he was being a massive plonker. WTAF!

pharmer · 21/06/2025 19:43

I don't understand how the kid would be at risk in the men's changing room with her dad?!! Although I suppose it would not be fair on other men getting changed

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