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Lucy Letby.....she might actually be innocent?!

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Dramatic · 04/02/2025 21:06

I have just watched the full press conference and I'm blown away. There seems to be no actual evidence AT ALL that she killed or injured those babies. This could be one of the biggest miscarriages of justice there has ever been in this country.

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JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:08

Hard disagree. I followed the trial very closely. She is guilty.

I really do think people’s mindset rests on her looks an ethnicity. If Lucy Letby was a black woman or fat or unattractive, nobody would be protesting her innocence

Almostwelsh · 04/02/2025 21:09

LL isn't particularly attractive, I don't think that's a factor.

Snorlaxo · 04/02/2025 21:10

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:08

Hard disagree. I followed the trial very closely. She is guilty.

I really do think people’s mindset rests on her looks an ethnicity. If Lucy Letby was a black woman or fat or unattractive, nobody would be protesting her innocence

Being female helps too. A man would be assumed guilty

Hufflemuff · 04/02/2025 21:10

I felt like this! It was all very circumstantial evidence and I'm so suspicious that there's been a huge cover up to hide consultant and senior nursing fuck ups!

I was waiting for the Netflix documentary (lol) to explain how the evidence actually conclusively proved her guilt.

BoldBlueZebra · 04/02/2025 21:10

Tbh I followed the trial and believed she had done it but today seeing 13 paediatric specialists saying actually there’s no evidence all I can think is wtf

wipeywipe · 04/02/2025 21:10

I really do think people’s mindset rests on her looks an ethnicity. If Lucy Letby was a black woman or fat or unattractive, nobody would be protesting her innocence

Shes not frigging Margot Robbie, she's completely average.

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:10

Almostwelsh · 04/02/2025 21:09

LL isn't particularly attractive, I don't think that's a factor.

Well it subjective but it’s safe to say She’s conventionally attractive: slim white and blonde. These women are just perceived differently

wipeywipe · 04/02/2025 21:11

The whole point is the evidence isn't sound.

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:11

Snorlaxo · 04/02/2025 21:10

Being female helps too. A man would be assumed guilty

Very true

BIossomtoes · 04/02/2025 21:12

Dramatic · 04/02/2025 21:06

I have just watched the full press conference and I'm blown away. There seems to be no actual evidence AT ALL that she killed or injured those babies. This could be one of the biggest miscarriages of justice there has ever been in this country.

There was enough evidence to require a nine month trial to consider it. I personally am astonished that anyone can seriously question her guilt.

BoldBlueZebra · 04/02/2025 21:12

well pretty or not this now has put enough into the argument that the whole thing needs to be looked at again

wipeywipe · 04/02/2025 21:12

The fact Dr Shoo Lee has said what he has makes the evidence look very dodgy. She may be guilty or innocent. It matters if she isn't regardless of how she looks....

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 04/02/2025 21:13

I 100% agree that she's been the victim of a cover up

To the pp who said if she was a minority then no-one would care, I hard agree, but I still think she's innocent as I would a minority woman

I've experienced workplace bullying. People are so fucking nasty and it's very believable that they've let her take the blame for department fuck ups as she's weird and no-one liked her

She's unwell and suffered a lot of bullying in her life - it makes you doubt yourself and think you're stupid

I'm rooting for her freedom and for justice for the mothers and families of those babies who were killed by good old fashioned workplace incompetence x

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JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:13

BIossomtoes · 04/02/2025 21:12

There was enough evidence to require a nine month trial to consider it. I personally am astonished that anyone can seriously question her guilt.

Yep. Did you follow the podcast? It’s SO detailed and clearly shows how guilty she is

Lets remind ourselves this was it trial by media - she was found guilty on some counts

RoundandSad · 04/02/2025 21:13

I didn't follow it

look at the information today then I looked at the case and was puzzled how she was convicted

wasn't on shift one of them

insulin levels in babies link to other conditions

evidence of injection of air bubbles seems to be based on bruising?

doesn't sound like "beyond reasonable doubt"?

has anyone read the court papers? Shocking if she is innocent

Grandmaatthecottage · 04/02/2025 21:13

@wipeywipe Agree.

All a jury can do is look at the evidence and arrive at a conclusion. If the evidence is insubstantial then a miscarriage of justice has taken place.

Amba1998 · 04/02/2025 21:13

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:08

Hard disagree. I followed the trial very closely. She is guilty.

I really do think people’s mindset rests on her looks an ethnicity. If Lucy Letby was a black woman or fat or unattractive, nobody would be protesting her innocence

A significant amount of evidence that the jury and those in the gallery heard was not made public to the press. So you can’t have followed that closely unless you were in there.

I don’t have an opinion either way because I wasn’t there, didn’t listen to the experts and i’m not an expert myself. But to have followed via the media like the rest of us frankly isn’t following the trial closely

Avocando · 04/02/2025 21:13

It’s a hard disagree from me. There were A LOT of red flags in her behaviour which indicate she is guilty IMO.

I still can’t get over the fact she had so many hand over sheets. Rule 101 is they don’t come home with you. There are confidential bins everywhere, even by the car park so you can get rid of one if you realise last minute. It’s a sackable offence. To have maybe one or two = sloppy. More than 200? Downright suspish.

BoldBlueZebra · 04/02/2025 21:14

No doubt that there needs to be a reinvestigation and a whole new trial - this has sewn doubt about the whole thing

Dramatic · 04/02/2025 21:15

BIossomtoes · 04/02/2025 21:12

There was enough evidence to require a nine month trial to consider it. I personally am astonished that anyone can seriously question her guilt.

14 extremely highly qualified neonatal experts questioned it and have done an extremely thorough report saying there is absolutely no evidence to say these babies were murdered. I'm not questioning this off my own back.

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RoundandSad · 04/02/2025 21:15

"It’s a hard disagree from me. There were A LOT of red flags in her behaviour which indicate she is guilty IMO"

behaviour isn't evidence

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:15

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 04/02/2025 21:13

I 100% agree that she's been the victim of a cover up

To the pp who said if she was a minority then no-one would care, I hard agree, but I still think she's innocent as I would a minority woman

I've experienced workplace bullying. People are so fucking nasty and it's very believable that they've let her take the blame for department fuck ups as she's weird and no-one liked her

She's unwell and suffered a lot of bullying in her life - it makes you doubt yourself and think you're stupid

I'm rooting for her freedom and for justice for the mothers and families of those babies who were killed by good old fashioned workplace incompetence x

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The NHS didn’t convict her a jury did. It didn’t matter when it came to evidence that she was allegedly bullied (she wasn’t)

Harrietparker · 04/02/2025 21:16

Did she not have confession notes at her home?

TomatoSandwiches · 04/02/2025 21:16

It is amazing how people who watched and listened to the same trial can come to completely opposite conclusions.
I've never been convinced that she was guilty, all I saw was circumstantial and no solid mo.
I thoroughly believe she was a scape goat for an under performing and negligent NHS unit.

JandamiHash · 04/02/2025 21:17

Amba1998 · 04/02/2025 21:13

A significant amount of evidence that the jury and those in the gallery heard was not made public to the press. So you can’t have followed that closely unless you were in there.

I don’t have an opinion either way because I wasn’t there, didn’t listen to the experts and i’m not an expert myself. But to have followed via the media like the rest of us frankly isn’t following the trial closely

So sorry I haven’t used the right semantics 🙄 “I followed the trial as closely as a lay person possibly could” - is that better or are you going to write a 2 paragraph huff again?

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