Lucy Letby.....she might actually be innocent?!

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I have just watched the full press conference and I'm blown away. There seems to be no actual evidence AT ALL that she killed or injured those babies. This could be one of the biggest miscarriages of justice there has ever been in this country.

I've read it all.

No one saw her doing anything

But people in hospitals are sick and many of them die.

Neonatal deaths are very rare actually, when you don’t have a murderer on the ward. You expect 1-2 deaths a year or so like in the hospital Letby worked in

Agree, there’s always one that has to unnecessarily bring race, colour, or body size into the mix

@ChanelBoucle · Today 21:29

I’ve always suspected that she’s a mentally unwell woman who was gaslighted by a corrupt organisation into believing herself to be guilty so that they could hang the blame on her as a convenient scapegoat for negligence and malpractice. Just a hunch, and not one I’ve spouted about much because I haven’t got any actual evidence. But the findings today are interesting and align with my suspicions.

It also worries me that juries are made up of literally anyone including the fallible, the gullible and sometimes quite unintelligent, who might feel pressurised into giving verdicts they may not truly agree with as individuals. You only have to watch The Traitors to see herd mentality in action.

This. ^ Excellent post. Not sure she was/is mentally unwell though, as much as fragile, gullible, soft, and easily lead.

But yeah, I agree about how she could have been made a scapegoat for malpractice and negligence. So much of it goes on in some hospitals, it's frightening. The ones in Shropshire are prime examples, with all the baby deaths - and even a few deaths of the mothers.

She’s not. That number of babies don’t just die

It's definitely more than 1 -2.

As I saw a documentary about lucy letby and the paediatrician said the "normal average" amount of deaths per year was a good bit higher than 1 or 2

Re her behaviour - she was borderline obsessed with working with sickest babies in the room where they were all kept and moaned endlessly if she had to work in nursery 1 which was essentially “babies ready to go home” room.

Why?

Its possible for 2 things to be true - that she’s a murderer and that standards at the hospital were poor

Has anyone mentioned she is autistic?

No, they also used Dr. Shoo Lee’s research incorrectly, as proof that the rash described as appearing on some of the babies was proof of air embolisms. Dr. Shoo Lee has publicly stated his work has been misinterpreted.

Honestly, the intelligence in this forum is alarming. Healthy babies don't suddenly require the need for resuscitation. Wake up.

Utter rubbish 🙄

I have a neonatal doctor in the family who followed the trial very closely and has no doubt of her guilt.

People should perhaps realise academics aren’t working with patients every day. And that often their findings just happen to align with their personal views

I cannot believe race has been brought into this 🙄
Pathetic

I haven’t closely followed the trial and don’t know the full extent of what’s being said now - but if there is any chance that this is a huge miscarriage of justice it needs to be investigated asap.

Information back in December came out that the prosecution expert 'changed his mind' on how three of these babies died. That would suggest that at the very least,his evidence wasn't sound. Which , in turns obviously calls into question the rest of his findings.

Is she and how is that relevant if so?

They weren't healthy

No, not trial by media. This country has v strict reporting laws, and it was only reported what actually happened in the trial

It is odd and I have tried to break it down.

First case discussed today - the experts said the evidence was very hard to spot. (They are genuinely world leading). New supporting evidence in recent publication.

Second case - this matches what the pathologist who originally examined the body said, but there is also new supporting evidence because we now have a relevant academic study of air embolism through injection. That publication didn't exist then

Third case discussed today. The prosecution gave the wrong data on timing of tests. New engineering studies have been conducted since the trial to see if it would have been possible for Letby or anyone to poison children in the way described

Fourth case described today. I think here the panel has made a connection the defence lawyer wasn't aware of.

Fifth case described today. The child had a rare bacterial infection - not sure how attuned to this the defence would have been.

Sixth case described today. The judge told the jury it was a matter of choosing who to believe, the convicted murderer or the doctor. The defence had tried to argue some of these points.

Seventh case described today - this is based partly on information that wasn't given to the pathologist who examined the child's body, so his report had a gap. It needed someone to go back over later notes to the coroner and piece things back together. We don't know if the defence had access to this information - they have got some of their information from the Thirlwall Inquiry.

So it's a mixture of answers: new studies, information not disclosed or believed; probably some details missed. 14 world leading experts with more info vs 2 (as far as we know) perfectly competent professionals with far fewer resources and less time.

A lot of you who have never worked in the NHS will have absolutely no idea how corrupt it is.

Watch Sky news. The expert whose study they relied on was never actually consulted. Dr Lee, he is in Canada. He only came across the case accidentally and states they used his research wrongly and misinterpreted it
He also states that this hospital would have been closed down if it were in Canada
The defense didn't have experts because professionals won't testify against each other, they stick together

Someone speaks sense at last

Not in neonatal wards they dont

I really like David Davis and have been wondering since he put his name too it.
But to be fair I didn't watch anything about it.
But have experience of very poor maternity services in 2018 and 2022 so wouldn't surprise .me if it was negligence.

Re her behaviour - she was borderline obsessed with working with sickest babies in the room where they were all kept and moaned endlessly if she had to work in nursery 1 which was essentially “babies ready to go home” room.

Why?

Er there are other reasons besides murder...