Another stabbing at a school?

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Fgs......
When will someone get a grip on all this?
How much more can people take.

People will be to scared to send their children to school?
Teachers will leave, then there might not be any school anyway!!!

What are they arguing about at school anyway
Is this gang related or a disagreement?
A girl has also been found guilty today of stabbing a teacher last year too.😫

Thinking of the children at the school and how shocked and frightened they must feel right now.

The Children's Wellbeing bill that the government is pushing through, is limiting your rights as parents to remove your child from school to home ed.

You think you will never need to use that right...but imagine being in a situation where this happens at your child's school, they are terrified to go to school, but you have lost your right to remove them to home ed without getting permission from your LA.

This government needs to make schools their #1 priority. This isn't going away anytime soon. It's not something that is all the Tories fault, or all Labour's fault for that matter. The rot has been setting in for decades, since the 90s at least.

So the school went into lockdown last week because of this suspect? And he was allowed back to school instead of being excluded. And now a child is dead. The priorities are way off here. Way, way off.

Well @VisitationRights it's his rights to be a murderous, evil violent person innit, it's how he communicating how unhappy he is that the world isn't giving him the respect he deserves? So when the rest of the kids are terrified they'll be next, and the staff know if they intervene to protect other pupils, at best they'll be fired, at worst they'll be dead too, so kids like this 'rule the school' alls right with the world.

It is really difficult to expel kids but every child deserves to be safe. This act is abhorrent but if it turns out the perpetrator here was previously violent, threatening or with a weapon then there needs to be accountability from the local authority and school as to why this pupil was able to remain on roll.

I’ve said it a million times. The school system is fundamentally flawed and actually broken in places. A one size fits all approach does not work. We need a complete overhaul. SEN schools, academic schools, vocational schools, large schools, small schools etc. parents should have a real choice as to the right establishment for their dc. Has it really taken the death of an innocent child to highlight this or does the government still have its head in the sand?

The bill intends to add safeguards to home education so that students who are known to social services cannot be pulled from school. It’s responding to the Sara Sharif case where an abused child was taken away from a safe place of school. Parents who want to take that route will be fine, that safeguard is to stop abusers hiding their children from the school system.

@Superhansrantowindsor where's the money going to come from? People aren't going to pay more taxes to fund this.

Exactly this.

I don’t know but if we want a fully functioning safer society going forward we have to prioritise education.

I watched that and would recommend it to everyone. Totally agree that poor parenting is where is starts - these kids are born into chaotic households and the problems begin there.

Maybe if millions hadn’t been spent on academisation and free schools it could have been instead ploughed into creating excellent alternative provision.
This could have happened in any school at any time.Schools are full of lost, scared and unsafe young people. There is not enough specialist support and schools can’t exclude without reams of paperwork and evidence.

I couldn't agree more. I'd get rid of the Academy system and just put the money back into direct teaching and learning.

This, x100.
In Sheffield, and elsewhere, there are MATs with CEOs on huge salaries, with Chief Impact Officers, also on high salaries. None of this seems to have lead to any significant improvement. There used to be one Director of Education for the whole city. We don't need a dozen.
Money goes upwards in schools for all this, instead of being used to reduce class size and support AEN.

Get rid of the academy system - more children are educated by academies than maintained schools now so it’s not just “get rid of this system” - that would cost a huge amount as well.

True, it would be a significant change, but the benefits in the long run would be huge. Money would be used by individual schools again.
I think Bridget Phillipson is of this opinion, so there may be moves in this direction.

The process of getting rid of academies would just line the pockets of accountants and lawyers, certainly wouldn’t go near education or the children.

Special provision had been decimated well before most Secondaries were made into Academies.

Well, it can't carry on as it is, the budget just going upwards. Something's got to give.

I just read about this. I found it heartbreaking

Another kind, innocent child fatally attacked

What is being done to stop this?

Do a lot of women in the UK keep a knife in their handbag the way a lot of US women carry a gun in their purse?

The theory is that academies spend on central team including CEO salary represents the top slice that LEAs took from the funding before giving it to schools. Academies get the full funding. Maybe that needs to be enforced.

I think it’s absolutely crazy that we allow children who have brought weapons into school to remain in school.

If one of our colleagues turned up to work with a weapon with the intention of hurting or threatening you, the police would be called and they would be sacked and charged. You would never be expected to work alongside that person again.

Yet, with children, we make them go back to school the next day and face these people. My eldest is 8 and I am seriously considering homeschooling at secondary age because adults are not in control in our secondary schools. They’re ruled by the most aggressive children. I will be watching how the government responds VERY closely.

Not yet.

Possibly because women here would be charged if they hurt someone in an act of self defence whereas in America, they are lawfully permitted to defend themselves and others.

This.

When my ds had a knife pulled on him in a classroom the school bent over backwards to offer support for the "poor buy who's obviously struggling".

My ds who had a breakdown and went to GP so was off school was given an "unauthorised absence" on that day because "there's no reason for him to be off with anxiety as that pupil is excluded for 2 days".

My ds had CBT through camhs for school anxiety and moved to a better school but was traumatised for a long time.

The school even tried to justify it saying the other pupils said he did it as "he was scared of ds".

The ds who never so much as had any violence towards another child and wouldn't say boo to a goose.

Apparently excluding children from school is one of the problems. They have nothing else to do and violence becomes the answer.
I'm fed up with this rhetoric, 'I'm bored therefore stabbing someone is the only answer'
We need to get harsher penalties and punishment for violent and aggressive people, stop the mollycoddling, and if the response to prison is the 'oh they just learn more crime in jail' well isolation and stop the socialising, it's prison not a holiday camp.

My blood ran cold when I read about this. The thought of sending your child to school and them not coming home. Just unbearable.