Another stabbing at a school?

[PassingStranger]

Fgs......
When will someone get a grip on all this?
How much more can people take.

People will be to scared to send their children to school?
Teachers will leave, then there might not be any school anyway!!!

What are they arguing about at school anyway
Is this gang related or a disagreement?
A girl has also been found guilty today of stabbing a teacher last year too.😫

We definitely need to toughen up in this country. There is no way schools should be charged for excluding kids this just means the real bad ones aren't properly dealt with and tragedies like this one today occur as they are allowed back in with a slap on the wrist. Zero tolerance is needed to make schools safer. First hint of knife crime/ fighting with knives etc and your out!

I teach in another Sheffield school. We're all shocked. I know the Headteacher, Sean Pender. He's a decent man, and he and his team work so hard to be inclusive and supportive. This escalated from online threats, according to reports.
Imagine a boy stabbed to death at school. Just devastating for everyone.

It was an awful snd tragic event, on the same day another 14 year old was found guilty of attempted murder by stabbing two people (including a teacher) at another school. Meanwhile we have a lying propaganda-driven government trying to convince everyone that home educated are not safe at home, and wound be safer in school. You honestly couldn't make it up

@blackbird77 I agree entirely.

I have name changed as we had the unfortunate experience of a child being threatened in our school last week across the throat with a knife.

The child remains in class. Scotland. No exclusion.

@Porcuporpoise remove them immediately from the parents for a start. In the case I have mentioned I'm talking early primary. That comes from home. Be it games or whatever.

What about the other kids? What about them? Don’t you give a flying fuck about their safety??? Their lives??? It’s all what’s best for the bully. Try thinking about the victim for once.

Exclusion is banned in Scotland, which is insane. If I was the victims parents I’d be suing the Scottish government.

Awful

Glad we live abroad

It’s ‘trying hard to be inclusive’ that’s the issue though! If they want to be included they need to behave. If not, pupil referral unit.

@Turbottimes just crazy.

There's nothing like that available. It costs the school a huge amount for any off site provision.

That's the way it's gone.

Everyone is always shitting all over the US with their school and guns problems, but we have a very terrible and real problem also: knives.

How many more children are going to die before action is taken? This has been going on for years and years.

Whwn l pointed this out on a previous thread about a stabbing, l got absolutely slated but l couldn't agree more

That’s what council education budgets are for. Currently we have ASD children in specialist schools and a number of them would cope very well with mainstream schooling if there was a calm, safe environment there. I can see savings that can be made to pay for PRUs by getting mainstream schools back under control of the adults.

@Raindropskeepfallinonmyhead

Why do you think that nobody is doing anything about knife crime?

There are a tonne of initiatives and education programmes.

You're assuming there's a clear effective strategy that would massively reduce or stop it, but for some reason no government wants to action it.

The reality is that it's very, very hard to address knife crime when there are lethal knives in literally every household in the country, carrying a knife has become normalised in some groups, and harsh sentences for carrying or using knives seem to have zero impact on knife crime.

And I'm saying this as someone whose children have been affected by knife crime. My son lost a 15 year old friend who was murdered; my daughter had a friend (a girl) who is serving a life sentence for the murder of another teen.

I don't know what the answer is, and we've all got to stop talking as though there's an obvious strategy which would work which everyone is ignoring.

The government is doing its best. They already have plans to file down the points of all knives and ban Amazon from selling cutlery.

"Everyone is always shitting all over the US with their school and guns problems, but we have a very terrible and real problem also: knives."

Our murder rate in the UK is 1/5th that of the USA.

@Turbottimes
"What about the other kids? What about them? Don’t you give a flying fuck about their safety??? Their lives??? It’s all what’s best for the bully. Try thinking about the victim for once."

Why the aggression towards me?

We're talking about preventing serious youth crime.

Exclusions increase criminality.

So kids take knives to school and people expect the parents of their potential victims to care about inclusion and preventing the knife-carrier from a criminal future?

Laughable.

And there’s your answer -
Caring enough to ensure everyone is safe is deemed to cost too much !
So we close down parenting classes, decimate child services , outsource care homes , close referral units , reduce cahms etc etc etc
Too sad

I really don’t care whatsoever about the bullies lives. I would happily pay my taxes to keep these people in prison for live if they cannot be rehabilitated. If you harm others you have no place in society.

I didn't say that - l was saying the gun culture in America is the equivalent of knife crime in this country.
I am very sorry to hear your son lost a friend, it is just awful..

I know it's an extremely complex problem. But PART of the problem is the damn phones. Kids fall out and instead of cooling off while they aren't at school the fighting and bullying continues online and things escalate and escalate.

Someone has already explained that correlation doesn’t equal causation.