To be really glad I don't live in America right now

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I really feel for ordinary Americans. It's bad enough on this side of the Channel, hearing daily about Trump's latest petty, spiteful, idiotic bullshit - that rant against the Bishop who asked him to have mercy on immigrants, the ridiculous and insulting attempt to blame 'diversity' for the plane crash - but living under it must be so much worse. And heaven help you if you're LGBT or a woman. Or an immigrant. Or not white. Or poor. Or anyone else Trump and his freakshow of a government despises. I moan about the UK all the time, like everyone else who lives here, because god knows it's far from perfect, but at least we don't have a government in charge who is trying to strip huge swathes of the population of their rights and citizenship.

It is a good question though. What is your proposal for making Israel accept the 2 state solution if they refuse.

International Law is toothless without force.

there's plenty of land in the world.
Yes and it's all owned and occupied and those owners will object if you just lob 2 million strangers there.

Intersex does not mean 'changed halfway'. And no-one said it does mean that.
It means they have conflicting attributes. He was born a 'she' based on genitals at birth. Should he have been forced to have surgery to 'go back to gender at birth'?

Intersex people, properly called DSD, are always male or female. I can’t say it clearer.

Most of it’s not occupied. The worlds population would fit on the Isle of Wight if we all
stood up.

Intersex does exist, yes even in mammals. It is better known in invertebrates but definitely is a recognised phenomenon in mammals.
Intersex is a general term for an organism that has sex characteristics that are between male and female.
Have a good read. "each of these horses had won considerable amounts of money during their careers as putative mares"
"The referring veterinarian identified intersex conditions in these horses on the basis of physical examination findings. The combination of ambiguous external
genitalia, the apparent absence of a female reproductive tract on transrectal palpation of the abdomen, and the apparent presence of palpable internal testis-like structures led to the preliminary diagnosis of male pseudo-hermaphroditism in both horses."
https://www.vet.upenn.edu/docs/default-source/research/equine-behavior-laboratory/javma-intersex-2011.pdf?sfvrsn=6a38e0ba_0

Have you not heard of ecological footprint? It's not just a place to stand. It's the area of land needed to provide food, waste disposal, etc.

Much of what you think is 'not occupied' will not support human life eg much of Australia is desert. You want to just dump 2 million people in our desert?

I am not interested in discussing people's beliefs. I am talking about actual biology. Have a look at the example I gave you.

2 horses. Apparently female, who both raced as females (ie adult females) and only when tested did enough male hormone turn up to question that sex. Upon internal physical exam, it was found both were genuinely intersex and upon karyotyping were found to both be XY (male).

If they were human what would you say? Should they both have surgery to remove the female parts to appear male as per their karyotype? Or should they have surgery to remove the male parts to comply with their birth designation?

It’s like they don’t realise this kind of thinking is what caused the problem in the first place!

Most of habitable land is occupied. And this ignores the fact most Palestinians have no desire to leave their land. The ones who fled in 1948 learned the hard way that once they left they would never be allowed back.

The peace activists have been utterly marginalized since October 7.

You can hurl whatever hurty words towards Israel you like. You could make them a pariah state like North Korea.

It’s not gonna lead anywhere useful imho. Shaming only works on countries that share your civilizational values.

Yup Hamas got exactly what they wanted, 10,000s of thousands dead Palestinians and an angry, isolated, and even more dangerous Israel.

Still, worth it eh? They got to show those Jews, especially the women and children who really needed to pay. Of course, it was then Palestinian women and children who died in return but hey now the Queers are marching for Palestine and the UN is passing resolutions! So again, totally worth it.

Fuck me I hate humanity.

You think Hamas wanted so many dead? I think you are delusional .

I think they were indifferent to civilian deaths because using them as human shields was part of their strategy to deter Israeli attacks. They refused to let civilians shelter in the hundreds of miles of tunnels they controlled and told them to stay in their homes during the fighting.

Gaza Chief’s Brutal Calculation: Civilian Bloodshed Will Help Hamas - Yahya Sinwar’s correspondence with compatriots and mediators shows he is confident that Hamas can outlast Israel

Well yes civilian blood spilt by the Israelis will help Muslim terrorists every where

I still doubt they wanted that many to die and I am sick to the back teeth of people trying to excuse Israel

Hamas soldiers were not the ones killing the Palestinian civilians

I used to be fairly neutral on all this but increasingly see the Palestinians as the victims- of Israel whose actions over the decades have bred Hamas

One of the friends, who doesn't work directly for government but in an adjacent role, has lost her job. They have been ordered to work full time in the office after presidential decree that it must happen. Sadly she is disabled and lives 3 hours from their office. She has been there 18 months after they head hunted her. Her contract is remote working, but apparently this is over ruled by the President.

So at what point should everyone be chromosome tested?

WHen they play sports and it's not obvious?

Lets be fair, it's obvious 99% of the time

So, at age 8 then?

Oh, you're of the "you can just tell" school of thought 🙄🙄🙄

you can just tell.

OK sweetie.

I have no idea if I have ever met anyone with DSD. Do you ask people to find out?

Or do you mean "all trans women"? That you can just tell? It's attitudes like that that caused a close friend a lot of pain and trouble after a couple of high profile anti trans c*nts on twitter decided she was actually a man (as she had given birth three times, I think it's very unlikely) and basically doxed her to their hundreds of thousands of followers.

I don't care about your anecdote.

People with DSDs know they have one, just asking for them to be honest before they get in a boxing ring....

Oh and while I am here

Sex is binary and immutable

Trans women are men.

Oh, it's about one specific person. Not about all people with a DSD.

And yes, I am sure you don't care about my friend. That is par for the course.

What about the girl who, in late teens, finds out she has a DSD? Do you force her to now live as a man? Do you let her continue to live as a woman but she's no longer allowed to use womens changing rooms?

I can guarantee you, in the VAST majority of cases, you wouldn't be able to tell.

you mean he, not she. He.

And as for "live as a man" what on earth does that mean? Drink lager and watch football?

He, should certainly not be in sports teams for she's, should he? Nor female bathrooms for that matter, otherwise wear a dress, pop on make up and do all this "Living as a woman" things you feel he should be...

So someone who has used female bathrooms ALL their life should now stop using them? Because they have a dodgy chromosome?