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To think this was really spiteful

289 replies

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 22:30

I work as a TA in a primary school and something happened today that made me really sad.

I was working with a group of ten children, split between three adults. We were working on subtraction with this particular group who really struggle with maths.

I heard the other TA tell a child she had done very well. The little girl was really proud of herself and had a huge smile on her face and asked “Am I going to get a sticker Miss?” The TA looked very sternly at her and said “Katie, stickers are given out at my discretion. I decide when to give them. I was actually going to give you one, but as you have asked, unfortunately I am not going to give you one now” Honestly she looked devastated. She’s 7 years old.

AIBU to think this was really spiteful?

YABU - She should not have asked.

YANBU - She deserved a sticker

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gingerandsmall · 27/01/2025 23:15

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:06

I can promise you it is pointless. No one cares.

That's a shame. Our SLT take them seriously and they've been really useful in identifying training needs and patterns of behaviour.

Do these incidents happen often enough that reporting every one separately could annoy the SLT into taking it seriously?

Costcolover · 27/01/2025 23:16

DelphiniumBlue · 27/01/2025 23:12

It’s not spiteful, it’s consistency. You can’t give rewards to every kid who asks for one, they should all know that . They get given one when an adult thinks they deserve one. Otherwise you get the bolder ones asking all the time and the shy ones not putting g themselves forward.
Thats not to say any reward system comes without problems, and you often get the situation where eg ‘ star of the week’ is not in fact given on the basis of merit, but on the basis of whose turn it is on the rota. It’s all a bit of a nonsense, and as you can see, even the giving out of stickers can cause problems.

I think we’ve found Cruella De Vil the TA!

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:17

DelphiniumBlue · 27/01/2025 23:12

It’s not spiteful, it’s consistency. You can’t give rewards to every kid who asks for one, they should all know that . They get given one when an adult thinks they deserve one. Otherwise you get the bolder ones asking all the time and the shy ones not putting g themselves forward.
Thats not to say any reward system comes without problems, and you often get the situation where eg ‘ star of the week’ is not in fact given on the basis of merit, but on the basis of whose turn it is on the rota. It’s all a bit of a nonsense, and as you can see, even the giving out of stickers can cause problems.

The adult said she’d deserved one. She only withdrew it because the child asked if she was allowed one.

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ToWhitToWhoo · 27/01/2025 23:17

In Victorian times, children were often told 'Those who ask shan't have' but I am shocked to hear of it in the 21st century, especially in this sort of context.

MrsPeregrine · 27/01/2025 23:18

Yes that was very mean. I would have given her a sticker myself if I saw that. I do wonder why people like this choose to work with children in the first place. Horrible.

CaptainBeanThief · 27/01/2025 23:19

Ughh, what a jobs worth, couldn't she have just said something along the lines of;
i will give you one on this occasion but, remember we don't ask for stickers, we wait to be given one.
Miserable cow

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:19

gingerandsmall · 27/01/2025 23:15

That's a shame. Our SLT take them seriously and they've been really useful in identifying training needs and patterns of behaviour.

Do these incidents happen often enough that reporting every one separately could annoy the SLT into taking it seriously?

This particular TA is harsh. The children are frightened of her. SLT know but aren’t concerned. Tbh they actually don’t give a shit.

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Anonymous2003 · 27/01/2025 23:20

Moier · 27/01/2025 22:45

TA thinking she's more important than she is.. she's not the teacher or head teacher.
Very spiteful.

Came here to say exactly this... Why do so many TAs have a superiority complex?? Literally believe that they are God's gift and have a teaching degree

Crackanut · 27/01/2025 23:20

Morecoffeeforme · 27/01/2025 23:03

I wonder if you could find a way to tell the girls parents.

if this was my child I’d want to know and I would be raising bloody hell with the head

That's absolutely ridiculous over a sticker. "Raising bloody hell"? No wonder teachers are leaving in their droves.

OCDmama · 27/01/2025 23:21

This is heartbreaking. Please give that little girl stickers.

Please please have it out with this TA. Seeing as no one else will tell her she's not on, and no one gives a shit you might as well tell her she's a power hungry arsehole who has no place in a school and who harms children.

That little girl will remember that comment and the betrayal for the rest of her life. We always remember when adults deliberately hurt us and let us down.

AxolotlEars · 27/01/2025 23:22

Power mad TA having a negative impact that may never be forgotten 😞

MumWifeOther · 27/01/2025 23:22

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 22:30

I work as a TA in a primary school and something happened today that made me really sad.

I was working with a group of ten children, split between three adults. We were working on subtraction with this particular group who really struggle with maths.

I heard the other TA tell a child she had done very well. The little girl was really proud of herself and had a huge smile on her face and asked “Am I going to get a sticker Miss?” The TA looked very sternly at her and said “Katie, stickers are given out at my discretion. I decide when to give them. I was actually going to give you one, but as you have asked, unfortunately I am not going to give you one now” Honestly she looked devastated. She’s 7 years old.

AIBU to think this was really spiteful?

YABU - She should not have asked.

YANBU - She deserved a sticker

YANBU.

I probably would have interjected and given the girl a sticker. The other TA sounds like a twat on a power trip.

MumWifeOther · 27/01/2025 23:23

Crackanut · 27/01/2025 23:20

That's absolutely ridiculous over a sticker. "Raising bloody hell"? No wonder teachers are leaving in their droves.

People like this shouldn’t work with children.

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:25

Anonymous2003 · 27/01/2025 23:20

Came here to say exactly this... Why do so many TAs have a superiority complex?? Literally believe that they are God's gift and have a teaching degree

Tbf some teachers think they are god too! I think we should all be treated with equal respect. However there is never, ever an excuse for anyone making a child feel crap. I’d seen how hard she’d worked! Yes it was only a sticker but it has made my blood boil all day.

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MumWifeOther · 27/01/2025 23:25

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:02

I’ve told my manager twice about the way she speaks to the kids but unfortunately they don’t give a shit as long as there’s a body teaching.

Last week I heard her saying “Well! From what you’ve just done I can tell you do not know your tables. You should be on at least your 5’s by now. I will be speaking to your teacher about you” She also said “Tell me why you went to fetch glue? Did I ask for glue? No! I did not! Now get on with your work”

Listen, if I ever heard anyone talk to my children like this…. Tell the parents.

ChicViper · 27/01/2025 23:25

If they don't take your complaints seriously then they won't take hers seriously either so give the girl her sticker tomorrow. Ridiculous to deny a reward that the TA admitted she was entitled too. Why shouldn't she want a reward for her efforts? Adults do, we want praise, promotions, pay rises and acknowledgement why can't children openly want a reward too.

TA probs rewards herself with a prosecco for a hard week at work but can't extend the same courtesy to the children she's "helping".

Anyway she's spiteful and power trippy and I hope this interaction hasn't knocked the child's confidence too much

NPET · 27/01/2025 23:27

She could have said "yes of course you're getting one - but try to remember not to ask in future".

Bluescissorsbluepen · 27/01/2025 23:28

Can’t help but think about woman not advocating for themselves in salary negotiations for fear of being too greedy. No doubt she’d have done it to a boy too but that shit is ingrained deep and starts early. Yes just a sticker but she was asking about the correct reward for her work. CEO’s do it all the time.

kiana2015 · 27/01/2025 23:29

Not nice

MoodyMargaret11 · 27/01/2025 23:30

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:02

I’ve told my manager twice about the way she speaks to the kids but unfortunately they don’t give a shit as long as there’s a body teaching.

Last week I heard her saying “Well! From what you’ve just done I can tell you do not know your tables. You should be on at least your 5’s by now. I will be speaking to your teacher about you” She also said “Tell me why you went to fetch glue? Did I ask for glue? No! I did not! Now get on with your work”

Is she from a different country/culture OP?
The examples you are giving here make me think that. Still not an excuse anyway but I grew up in a country where nursery workers and teachers commonly spoke this way, like a grumpy boss - while still seeing themselves as caring.

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:32

Crackanut · 27/01/2025 23:20

That's absolutely ridiculous over a sticker. "Raising bloody hell"? No wonder teachers are leaving in their droves.

Do you not think this was spiteful though @Crackanut?

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tachetastic · 27/01/2025 23:32

With the exception of @DelphiniumBlue , who the heck are the 6% of responders who thought you were being unreasonable?

Could they please explain themselves, because I cannot see any reason other than meanness to tell a child that they did deserve a sticker but they are not going to get one just because they asked - and the child hadn't even asked for a sticker, only whether, based on their performance, if they were going to get one. For that, they were punished.

Just mean.

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 27/01/2025 23:34

It's really mean. And I would be very annoyed if my little girl was being taught that things she deserves will be withheld from her if she asks for them.

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:35

MoodyMargaret11 · 27/01/2025 23:30

Is she from a different country/culture OP?
The examples you are giving here make me think that. Still not an excuse anyway but I grew up in a country where nursery workers and teachers commonly spoke this way, like a grumpy boss - while still seeing themselves as caring.

She’s from the UK.

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DisgruntledPelican23 · 27/01/2025 23:36

Please mention this to the head. Not fair at all.