GMB reporting on liberation of Auschwitz (minus the Jews!)

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I couldn’t see another thread on this but if there is, let me know.

AIBU to be absolutely outraged about the report on the liberation of Auschwitz of GMB without one mention of the fact they were Jewish people who were killed?

https://x.com/antisemitism/status/1883921202416345358

What the hell is going on in this country where we can’t even speak of the victims of the greatest atrocity ever taken place in this world?

Jews they were Jews.

Did you read the thread? Perhaps call out the person who derailed it by talking about hate marches?

The Israel government has not put people in Gaza in Auschwitz type
concentration camps or built ovens.

They've engage however in a harassment policy against Palestinians in their own home to gain territory not belonging to them, They keep putting more fundamentalist settlers in UN recognised Palestinian territory, targeting their civilians for their own political gain. What they've done in Gaza is a massacre against a civilian population unable to defend themselves. It's not comparable to the Holocaust but it's a genocide all the same.

Pretty sure there were other representatives of former soviet countries.

please don't minimise. Yes,
other minorities were murdered. That's horrendous and evil. The camps were set up to
kill Jews though. It was a deliberate act
of totally unprovoked and evil Antisemitism.
The vast majority murdered were JEWS:

www.auschwitz.org/en/history/auschwitz-and-shoah/the-number-of-victims/

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I’m beginning to believe that the rise/promotion of the right side of politics is being orchestrated to counter the rise of the Islamists.
Probably no bad thing if it brings more balance.

However that is probably for a different thread. It’s not related to the topic.

My post specifically related to the pp I tagged who stated the ONLY purpose was the extermination of the Jewish population.

It wasn’t the ONLY purpose as I stated.

I was not diminishing the horror to the Jewish population but neither should anyone make such inaccurate far reaching sweeping statements. Hence my tag.

Hundred of thousands of disabled children and children from different minority ethnic groups suffered medical barbarities, which somehow are never remembered in the Holocaust massacre.

What the Nazi's did against the civil population in Russia was barbaric. Women and children thrown alive in fire pits, POW executed by millions in grave pits they dug themselves.

The only reason why Israel and the West have tried to "forget" the massacre in Russia is because Hitler didn't win the war against them. Hitler built the final solution against Jews in the territories Nazi Germany controlled. Fortunately for us all, the Nazis didn't win the war against Russia.

As another poster said, Auschwitz was liberated by the red army. Not the Americans, not the British or any allied countries.

The gas chambers were set up to exterminate the Jews quickly. First and foremost those deemed unfit to work. Women, children and the elderly straight off the trains and not even documented.

The concentration camps were around before then.

I know this is perhaps splitting hairs and a matter of infrastructure here, but let’s be perfectly historically accurate as you did say ‘the camps’.

The ceremonies shown on the BBC yesterday, very much mentioned disabled people, gypsies who were also killed. They had individuals from those communities there representing them and speaking for them.

Never again is now

Why do people still say "never again". Never again has been and gone several times over, despite the well meaning and heartfelt sentiment.

It was the primary purpose and has been well recorded. It's what the Final Solution was about, specifically Europe's Jewish population. Please don't diminish this fact.

The ceremonies did talk about this and how Darfur Sudan, Bosnia have all occurred since. The ceremony in the UK had coverage of those genocides too with survivors telling their stories.

@Alondra Is there a reason that you're minimising the impact on Baltic people, Belarusians, Ukrainians?. The ones that also made up the red army.

I can see why it would not be appropriate to invite representatives of a state currently indulging in nazi behaviour themselves, to be honest. There were other ex soviet states involved in the commemoration, so the red army was represented

I wasn’t aware of this, nor such high numbers.
Have Russians never been recognised by any Country or Religion as victims of the holocaust.
At least at the time , if not now?

I never knew about the Russians either, how come that is hardly ever mentioned?

This x

Czechs too actually, though they aren’t often mentioned either. Hitler hated all Slavic people. I’m mentioning this because I am half Czech; my grandfather was shot by the Gestapo just before the end of the war and a great uncle died in Maunthausen concentration camp.

However, it’s true that the vast majority of victims were Jews and it’s appalling that GMB didn’t mention this. If it was a mistake it was a very bad one and it could have easily been corrected. There should definitely be an apology to the Jewish community.

I think Alondra was specifically referencing the Russian civilian population. I watched the ceremony yesterday and don’t recall any mention at all of them and yet it seems as @Alondra stated they were the second highest murdered.

So why have they been left out.
Or should they just come under the bracket of

others!
or
etc!

Which isn’t a respectful way to treat anyone. Just as GMB not referencing the Jewish population is also not respectful !

They lost a lot in the siege of Leningrad

Or the Soviet Union did.

@Alondra As another poster said, Auschwitz was liberated by the red army. Not the Americans, not the British or any allied countries.

The Red Army is Soviet Union. The Soviet Union was allied with GB & USA.

My apologies. At the time of WWII, Belorussian and Ukraine were part of the Soviet Union - they suffered the same barbaric fate as the rest of Balkans by Nazi Germany.

Although Sammy wasn’t talking about the final solution. Had they mentioned that I wouldn’t have tagged.

Im fully aware, as it’s well known, that the Final Solution was only about the mass extermination of the Jewish population.

So then we're moving from holocaust to war dead

I thought the current russians beef was not being invited as they (single handedly of course) liberated auschwitz.

Never heard of vast numbers of russian civilians in the camp system. Soviet soldiers yes, but russian civilians, no. Every days a school day.

Unless they were also Jewish of course. Although the pogroms had diminished their numbers already