GMB reporting on liberation of Auschwitz (minus the Jews!)

[TheRewritingOfHistoryBegins]

I couldn’t see another thread on this but if there is, let me know.

AIBU to be absolutely outraged about the report on the liberation of Auschwitz of GMB without one mention of the fact they were Jewish people who were killed?

https://x.com/antisemitism/status/1883921202416345358

What the hell is going on in this country where we can’t even speak of the victims of the greatest atrocity ever taken place in this world?

Jews they were Jews.

We are not moving from Holocaust to war dead. The estimated casualties in WWII are in between 70 and 80 million dead. We are talking about Holocaust - the civilian targets by Nazi Germany to commit atrocities against because of their race, religion, ideology, ethnicity or disability.

"Attention seeking" 🙄

FFS.

People don't talk a lot now about Hitler's weird racial theories. He thought that Jews, Slavs, and Roma were all inferior races, and hoped by eliminating them, at least in certain areas, to promulgate an Aryan master race: the murder of homosexuals and of people with congenital disabilities was part of the same project.

It was quite distinct from the more utilitarian murders of political opponents (socialists, trade unionists, communists, and certain religionists such as Quakers).

And different again from all the millions killed by brutal warfare in all its forms (many now illegal under international law).

It is a matter of record that the Russians who liberated Auschwitz were not as moved by what they found as one might have thought. Inmates were sent back to the Soviet Union under forced labour. Women were sexually assaulted by their 'liberators'. On the other hand, British soldiers like my uncle, were profoundly moved and scarred by their experience when they liberated Bergen Belsen on 15 April 1945.

6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis. 6 to 8 million others were killed by them.

But the point is that SIX million of ONE SPECIFIC ethnicity/religion (aka Jews religious and/or assimilated) were exterminated.
The millions of others were spread over many ethnicities, religions, disabilities etc.

Yes, there were all those pesky Jews thrown out of Egypt, other Middle Eastern countries, North Africa, etc. Just because they'd been ethnically cleansed out of all those countries. But now, according to you, they are "non settled" in Israel.

So it is okay to go around making nazi salutes as long as you say you’re excited while doing it? Okay, got it.

Well the OP is defending the use of a nazi salute, so there we go.

It is not a matter of record at all and no one should be trying to take the upper hand on the emotions felt by certain Liberators as less worthy than their own!

There are, for example, no records of British soldiers killed specifically trying to liberate concentration camps. In fact at Belsen there was a truce around the camp to protect them in advance of Typhus.

The Red Army however in liberating Auschwitz, Birkenau and Monowitz lost hundreds of their men in the fighting to get near the camps.

To say that some felt more horror than the British is diminishing the horror felt by all the Liberators and a direct attempt at rewriting history.

I wasn’t ’defending the nazi salute’ as well you know. All I know about Elon Musk is he is an excitable intelligent crazy neurodivergent man and no I don’t believe it was a Nazi salute (I could be wrong but don’t think I am)
But keep going on about me, you may even be able to derail the thread enough so we don’t have to talk about Jews anymore…you’d like that wouldn’t you?

Don’t see the fuss myself -
seems like an error in the script because ‘people’ is repeated twice.

Apologies that last para should read

To say that some felt LESS horror than the British is diminishing the horror felt by all Liberators and a direct attempt at rewriting history.

Sorry you lost me at that! Outrage at the word ‘people’ but defending what was obviously a fascist/ Nazi salute? Or was it ‘Roman’.

Nah, sorry OP - you can’t have it both ways.

I imagine if anyone wants people to stop talking about Jews its the ones defending the use of the nazi salute.

Just trying to think if the last time - while excited - that I threw my arm up TWICE in a Nazi style salute? Mmm. Not when we won the rugby. Not when we won the Euros… not when Ingot that promotion… not when DD scored the win goal in the cup tie… mmm.
Nope, drawing a blank.
In fact. Now I think about it I have never, ever, ever seen someone do that in person, ever. And I do know some excitable neurondiverse people.
Perhaps they aren’t ‘brilliant’ enough? Or perhaps they just aren’t admirers of fascists?

Utterly bizarre of the OP. It's a fact that Musk supports far right wing parties in Europe. He is far from stupid and knew very well how his salute would be interpreted. It was a Nazi salute.

Sorry OP but I really think you have lost the argument over Musk's obvious salute here .
I for one do not want to derail this thread as you rightly pointed out what GMB failed to do in their news report yesterday.

Then you prove the point of the original post. The Holocaust Memorial Day is primarily about SIX million of one specific religion/ethnicity - Jews, not merely 'people' in general.

ITV have issued an apology but imo Ranvir doesn’t sound very sincere.

www.jewishnews.co.uk/gmb-apologises-for-omitting-the-word-jews-in-holocaust-memorial-day-segment/

If anyone could post a link to the video that isn’t twitter (don’t want to be called a Nazi apologist again) that would be grand.

I agree. It sounds as though the word 'Jewish' was originally there, but removed as it doesn't make sense as it stands when they refer to other people being in the camp due to being Polish, or disabled or gay or from some other ethnic group.

It depends whether it was a genuine mistake or deliberately removed. Has anyone from GMB commented?

To say that some felt LESS horror than the British is diminishing the horror felt by all Liberators and a direct attempt at rewriting history

Yes it is, @AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen, and anyway how would they know?

Very many were involved in the liberation of the camps, and if Harry or Bill were seen weeping while Vlad and Igor remained stony-faced, might the cause of both not be simple shock?

Watching the footage is bad enough but actually being there is unimaginable, and they couldn't even take it out on the senior nazis because most of them - knowing what was coming - had cleared out by then

That was not an error, it was an editorial decison. Another presenter did the same thing later on.

How utterly bizarre to do that; as if they are trying to erase Jewish people from the holocaust, and re-focus people's attenton on the fact that the nazis murdered many others too.

People cannot be permitted, even for just one day, to remember why there was a need for a jewish homeland in the first place. There must be no sympathy for Jewish people and the persecutions they have suffered in order to keep the hatred of Israel alive.