GMB reporting on liberation of Auschwitz (minus the Jews!)

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I couldn’t see another thread on this but if there is, let me know.

AIBU to be absolutely outraged about the report on the liberation of Auschwitz of GMB without one mention of the fact they were Jewish people who were killed?

https://x.com/antisemitism/status/1883921202416345358

What the hell is going on in this country where we can’t even speak of the victims of the greatest atrocity ever taken place in this world?

Jews they were Jews.

This is the thing. When you hear people either on here or on the marches, they talk as if Palestine was an independent nation and Jewsish people sweptbit and took it as colonists conquerors. That didn't happen at all.

Sorry cannot amend typos

Actually the period in which the Nazis rose to power was in the inter-war years.

Not all jews were poor, and even if they were they integrated into functioning German/Polish/Ukrainian/ Hunagrian/Romanian/Italian/French/Dutch societies in many roles. Jewish people contributed greatly to the arts and to culture, and to learning - often leaving great collections and libraries; developing medicines, transport systems, great buildings.

Jewish people were totally disenfranchised - herded into gehttos; forbidden from partaking in most professions; had their possessions confiscated and subject to massacres - eventually leading to the 'final solution' which involved rounding up Europe's jews and transporting them to the death camps. Many were used as slave labour and worked to death.

You seem very keen to point out what you perceive as others lack of education. I think you should look a little closer to home.

Well, it was part of the Turkish empire for a long time. Then turkey sided with Germany in ww1 and at the end of ww1 their empire was disbanded. Britain was given the mandate to rule it by the league of nations.

There's a lot more to it than that but the important thing is to keep in mind that current day conflicts usually have long roots and it's rarely the case that one side is good while the other is bad. There are just different perspectives on the same situation.

If one side seems to be doing something disproportionate then people should read some history and try to understand the cause before painting them as evil. Humans are all the same really

I looked this up; the first result was their apology. Hope it's already been posted but, for anyone who missed it: https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/gmb-apologises-for-omitting-the-word-jews-in-holocaust-memorial-day-segment/

On Tuesday, Singh issued an on-air apology, saying: “In yesterday’s news when we reported on the memorial events in Auschwitz, we said six million people were killed in the Holocaust, but crucially failed to say they were Jewish. That was our mistake, for which we apologise.”

"This failure was done in error, however clear reference to Jewish people in the correspondent news report from Auschwitz immediately followed, as well as a further extended programme report referencing the six million Jewish victims."

It's very much different from today's asylum seekers, many of whom just want to improve their lives and not all are running from persecution.

The Jewish population of Europe was prevented from leaving their home countries unless they could be smuggled out in some way to a place of safety, having had their homes, businesses and belongings confiscated by the Nazis and their willing compatriots* in the let's get rid of Jews 'game'.
*e.g. the Poles, French, Austrians etc.

Go figure. It's perfectly possible to abhor both the Holocaust AND the actions of Israel today towards Palestine. It's called having some humanity.

It was Holocaust Memorial Day.

Holocaust is a Hebrew word, and it refers to the genocide of European Jews during WWII.

No one is saying that other groups weren't targeted too - the mentally disabled, the Roma, homosexuals, political prisoners, nor that appalling atrocities were committed in occupied Slavic lands.

I was going to say earlier on I’m a bit disappointed this thread seems to have descended into an argument about Palestine.

Its also possible to abhor both the actions of the Israeli government AND the actions of Hamas.

AND to feel deeply for the plight of the Palestinian people who could never have deserved genocide for electing the “wrong” leaders over a decade ago, and for the Israeli people who want to live in peace but either voted for the wrong people or didn’t ever elect this criminal govt.

It was Holocaust Memorial Day.
AND the thread was started by OP who was talking about the coverage of the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.

But as usual Palestine and Israel was brought quickly into the discussion so that the discussion can be turned to how terrible the jews are.
Nothing changes.

Is that right? I’m not sure if the murders of all the additional (for want of a better word) people aren’t include in the word Holocaust as it’s generally understood.

They do also deserve recognition, whilst at the same time it’s important to recognise that the majority of those killed were killed because they were Jews.

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Yes they are included in the word Holocaust.
Go visit some Holocaust museums, there is an excellent one in Berlin. It includes lots of information about all the other people killed by the Nazis in camps and firing squads

I’m really sorry that this so often seems to be the case.

To me, they are separate matters entirely.

We seem to be agreeing!

Yes fair enough and I'm not disputing that.

I'm reading nothing which excuses the omission of the word "Jews" from the original news report, which is how the thread started.

And I also think that those who are equating what's going on in Gaza to what happened to Jews, Roma etc during WWI perhaps need to delve a little more into the history of the last 1000 years.

‘"This failure was done in error, however clear reference to Jewish people in the correspondent news report from Auschwitz immediately followed, as well as a further extended programme report referencing the six million Jewish victims."

And there we go, no big conspiracy, so can we all calm our tits a little?

Sachsenhausen. My DP and I visited it a few years ago. It's a short train journey from Berlin where the Jewish Museum is also a must see as well as the Holocaust Memorial there.

Clearly missing the point made countless times here and elsewhere. The Holocaust Memorial Day, on the date Auschwitz was liberated, commemorates SIX MILLION Jews (of one ethnicity/religion) who were exterminated. Millions of others suffered but not one entire ethnicity or religion.
It was the beginning of a national news bulletin that the word Jews was left out deliberately.

It's not a Hebrew word! It's English, from Greek origin. The Hebrew term for the same event is Shoah.

Yes, and that's what they apologised for. It was an error.

No point missed.

The rise of anti semitism has empowered their behaviour, and it is shocking and terrible that they deliberately refused to clearly state that six million Jews were slaughtered in the death camps and by the Nazis for the simple reason that they were Jews.

The thread is literally about reporting on the liberating of Auschwitz!