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GMB reporting on liberation of Auschwitz (minus the Jews!)

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TheRewritingOfHistoryBegins · 27/01/2025 21:40

I couldn’t see another thread on this but if there is, let me know.

AIBU to be absolutely outraged about the report on the liberation of Auschwitz of GMB without one mention of the fact they were Jewish people who were killed?

https://x.com/antisemitism/status/1883921202416345358

What the hell is going on in this country where we can’t even speak of the victims of the greatest atrocity ever taken place in this world?

Jews they were Jews.

x.com

https://x.com/antisemitism/status/1883921202416345358

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AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 28/01/2025 22:30

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 22:28

Yes but you missed the context and the point. You jumped into the middle of a conversation.

It was a stand alone post not tagged.

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 22:32

And you didn't realise that it must refer to a previous comment and then go back to see what that comment was?

twilighttavern · 28/01/2025 22:33

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 28/01/2025 22:27

For the very last time

I did not tag a comment about antisemitism

I tagged a comment on Arabs not being Semite….that is wrong

Arabs are Semite.

Edited

Where was the comment about Arabs not being Semites? I must have missed it.

OneLemonDog · 28/01/2025 22:35

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 28/01/2025 22:27

For the very last time

I did not tag a comment about antisemitism

I tagged a comment on Arabs not being Semite….that is wrong

Arabs are Semite.

Edited

You did not tag a comment about "Arabs not being Semite".

You tagged a comments where posters were recognizing that "Arabs are semites" is a trite argument used to undermine discussions regarding present-day antisemitism.

OneLemonDog · 28/01/2025 22:36

twilighttavern · 28/01/2025 22:33

Where was the comment about Arabs not being Semites? I must have missed it.

It's in the poster's head, they misunderstood why people were dismissing the argument.

SharonEllis · 28/01/2025 22:42

My god first we're quibbling about the exact method usrd to kill Jewish people (even though it all adds up to the same genocide). Now nit pickery about the word semite even though we all know what jew hatred is (even, deep down those who think they're truly against all forms of racism).

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 28/01/2025 22:43

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 22:32

And you didn't realise that it must refer to a previous comment and then go back to see what that comment was?

Yes

Ican made a comment about not just Jews are Semite
Humding made a comment referencing oh now we’re onto Arabs are Semite, that old classic ( not exact quotes )
Then Comedy said Bingo. That’s the one I tagged.

It wasn’t about antisemitism in terms of the direct comment about Semites

therefore bringing up antisemtism is completely irrelevant to my post on Semites.

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 22:44

You misinterpreted what was being said. You could put your hands up and say 'fair enough'?

OneLemonDog · 28/01/2025 22:44

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 28/01/2025 22:43

Yes

Ican made a comment about not just Jews are Semite
Humding made a comment referencing oh now we’re onto Arabs are Semite, that old classic ( not exact quotes )
Then Comedy said Bingo. That’s the one I tagged.

It wasn’t about antisemitism in terms of the direct comment about Semites

therefore bringing up antisemtism is completely irrelevant to my post on Semites.

Please stop this nonsense

Humdingerydoo · 28/01/2025 22:48

OneLemonDog · 28/01/2025 22:26

I think the whole exchange has gone over your head.

It is not about whether "semetic" can or previously has had a wider meaning than "Jewish". It's about people using "actually, Arabs are semites too" to undermine the existence of antisemitism (as in, anti-Jewish hostility).

The "bingo" and alike were calling out a trite argument made in bad faith.

@AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen

This is exactly what I meant with my comment earlier where I said that we seem to have reached the part of the evening where people start thinking "Arabs are Semites too" is some kind of "gotcha!". It's just a nonsense comment frequently rolled out by antisemitism deniers and minimisers all over the internet. It's the anti-Semitic equivalent of "some of my closest friends are black", as though that means the racist thing you're saying isn't actually racist after all.

I think you just missed my sarcastic tone, which I guess is easy enough to do. Hopefully that clarifies matter and we can stop talking about it now 😅

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 22:52

I am always continually astounded by the apologists of either side that try to claim absolution to defend crimes of terrorism. The behaviour of those that carried out the attack on the music festival was the act of cowardy scum.

The response by Israel at state level to bomb the shit out of innocent people claiming they were human shields, The starvation and removal of sanitation from innocent people especially women and children, Blocking escape routes as well as denying medical help. This all mounts up to a stain on human existence and is something that we should all condemn.

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 22:53

Why is it being brought up on a thread about the Holocaust reporting on the news though?

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 28/01/2025 22:54

Humdingerydoo · 28/01/2025 22:48

@AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen

This is exactly what I meant with my comment earlier where I said that we seem to have reached the part of the evening where people start thinking "Arabs are Semites too" is some kind of "gotcha!". It's just a nonsense comment frequently rolled out by antisemitism deniers and minimisers all over the internet. It's the anti-Semitic equivalent of "some of my closest friends are black", as though that means the racist thing you're saying isn't actually racist after all.

I think you just missed my sarcastic tone, which I guess is easy enough to do. Hopefully that clarifies matter and we can stop talking about it now 😅

Ok @OneLemonDog i appreciate that explanation

I wasn’t aware that was used as a goady term or to undermine antisemitism
So apologies for that MNs that may have been offended.
It truly wasn’t meant to offend

But please remember

We are not all on CITME threads
This is not a CITME thread

You cannot expect us to ever know the intricacies of what goes on there, the insults and hidden insinuations meant to offend and as such on this thread which is not in the CITME section but the AIBU section we read the words as they are.

LetThereBeLove · 28/01/2025 22:55

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 22:14

There's a lot of using 'Zionist' as a codeword for Jew.

Constantly.

SharonEllis · 28/01/2025 22:55

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 22:52

I am always continually astounded by the apologists of either side that try to claim absolution to defend crimes of terrorism. The behaviour of those that carried out the attack on the music festival was the act of cowardy scum.

The response by Israel at state level to bomb the shit out of innocent people claiming they were human shields, The starvation and removal of sanitation from innocent people especially women and children, Blocking escape routes as well as denying medical help. This all mounts up to a stain on human existence and is something that we should all condemn.

Whats this got to do with the reporting of the liberation of auschwitz?

OneLemonDog · 28/01/2025 22:56

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 28/01/2025 22:54

Ok @OneLemonDog i appreciate that explanation

I wasn’t aware that was used as a goady term or to undermine antisemitism
So apologies for that MNs that may have been offended.
It truly wasn’t meant to offend

But please remember

We are not all on CITME threads
This is not a CITME thread

You cannot expect us to ever know the intricacies of what goes on there, the insults and hidden insinuations meant to offend and as such on this thread which is not in the CITME section but the AIBU section we read the words as they are.

Edited

You didn't just read the words as they were written, though. You added your own implied subtext, then argued against it.

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 28/01/2025 22:59

OneLemonDog · 28/01/2025 22:44

Please stop this nonsense

And that’s just a rude comment

Thisandthatandthensome · 28/01/2025 23:01

Shortshriftandlethal · 28/01/2025 16:40

I agree that a Russian representative should have been there.

Who is rewriting it?

Simple Wikipedia search tells you correct information.

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 23:01

SharonEllis · 28/01/2025 22:55

Whats this got to do with the reporting of the liberation of auschwitz?

If you wish to go back through the thread and my responses, it will be clear.

But to clarify slightly, the liberation of auschwitz or to give it it's proper name 'international holocaust rememberance day' is used by all of those that suffered under a bunch of evil nutter scum (Nazis).

As has been pointed out numerous times, even former Jewish POW's have said we must use what happened there to watch out for it being repeated. That doesn't mean just to Jews but to the whole of humanity.

Thisandthatandthensome · 28/01/2025 23:02

For poster who said Red Army weren't shocked they were

:Battle-hardened Russian soldiers who were used to seeing death in battle were shocked by the Nazis' treatment of prisoners at Auschwitz. Red Army general Vasily Petrenko, commander of the 107th Infantry Division, remarked, "I who saw people dying every day was shocked by the Nazis' indescribable hatred toward the inmates who had turned into living skeletons. I read about the Nazis' treatment of Jews in various leaflets, but there was nothing about the Nazis' treatment of women, children, and old men. It was in Auschwitz that I found out about the fate of the Jews."[6] In a few articles in Soviet newspapers, such as Pravda, following Soviet propaganda, the writers failed to mention Jews in their articles on the liberation.[6][15]"

Liberation of Auschwitz concentration camp - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_of_Auschwitz_concentration_camp#cite_note-FOOTNOTEStone201546-6

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 23:05

even former Jewish POW's have said we must use what happened there to watch out for it being repeated

What do you mean even former Jewish POWs? Like, you wouldn't expect them to?

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 23:10

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 23:05

even former Jewish POW's have said we must use what happened there to watch out for it being repeated

What do you mean even former Jewish POWs? Like, you wouldn't expect them to?

Actually I'd expect them to, far more than any number of people who have defended Israels response today. Perhaps ask yourself why they can find it in their hearts and minds what is happening is acceptable.

It is like a playground fight. Well he started it so I and my mates can kick crap out him. Have a word with yourself if that is you thinking.

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 23:11

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 23:10

Actually I'd expect them to, far more than any number of people who have defended Israels response today. Perhaps ask yourself why they can find it in their hearts and minds what is happening is acceptable.

It is like a playground fight. Well he started it so I and my mates can kick crap out him. Have a word with yourself if that is you thinking.

You aren't making any sense.

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 23:13

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 23:11

You aren't making any sense.

What part is confusing you?

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 23:16

The bit where you said even Jewish survivors said we should use the Holocaust as a lesson to never repeat it.

Then this sentence which doesn't make sense "Perhaps ask yourself why they can find it in their hearts and minds what is happening is acceptable."

And then something about a playground fight and having a word with myself.

Basically your last two posts.

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