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Happier without wife

224 replies

SpunkyAmberReader · 26/01/2025 16:30

My wife and I were both born here but our parents immigrated here. Her parents still have a large family back 'home' are travel back there frequently. Over the past few years, they've required some help travelling and my wife is the one who travels with them, as she is the one child who is a SAHM. Occasionally, our children will travel with them but usually the trips are during term time, so they tend to stay home with me.

She travelled for 3 weeks in November and has gone this Friday for a week.

I've realised that I am much happier when she's gone. I am more relaxed, happier, looking forward to the weekend etc. The house is peaceful; no one is shouting, complaining. I don't have to pretend to be interested in her friends' problems and I'm not on edge wondering if I say or do the wrong thing. One is going to moan that I left the milk out or the cereal box. It's a chill life.

Our children are both in the later stages of primary school, and are fairly self sufficient. We have a cleaner who does the house work and will help with the school run if required.

I shouldn't feel this way. Is it reasonable to feel this way.

OP posts:
aprayeratatime · 26/01/2025 22:02

I always wonder at these people who really prefer their home country but come and make a life here but go back that regularly. Like, mind your effing mind up

MoveToParis · 26/01/2025 22:08

SpunkyAmberReader · 26/01/2025 20:15

I think I do my fair share. I am responsible for most of the life admin because she is away so often. I also work and she doesn't. I think I am putting in just as much as she is, if not more, and I am tired of feeling tired all the time.

Edited

I have no idea whether you do more than your fair share, but contempt has definitely crept in to how you speak of her. You clearly do not love her.

It’s obvious you are feeling short changed in the marriage, and that she isn’t coming up to scratch.
So why are you still there? If she is so sub standard why don’t you do everyone a big favour and initiate divorce.

OwlInTheOak · 26/01/2025 22:32

SpunkyAmberReader · 26/01/2025 18:57

Its the constant complaining that is driving me mad.
If she is cold, she will need to tell me 10 times that she is cold. If she has a headache she will need to tell me 20 times that she has a headache. It's this constant, almost daily grind of having to listen.
Our kitchen is fairly cold, the milk is fine outside.

Do you talk to her much? I wonder if the repetition/frustration is loneliness.
Does she have many friends? Maybe suggest that she looks for a volunteering role whilst the DC are at school.
Also sounds like she's genuinely cold if the milk is OK left out, put the heating on!

winterdarkness · 26/01/2025 22:32

After I got divorced, my life became much easier. I was busier, poorer but MUCH happier. There was no one in the house to constantly criticise my choices or to complain about life in general. My life was my own and if I run out of milk, then it was MY problem but nobody was there to criticise me. My child became much more relaxed as well.

So I fully understand you. If you are happier when she's not there, it's time to rethink your relationship

ThinkingThroughOptions · 26/01/2025 22:39

Honestly, free your poor wife and children!

You sound like a nightmare OP.
You say:

  1. She complains of being cold.
  2. Your home is a balmy 20°c.
  3. You never refrigerate milk but stand it on a suitably cold windowsill (in the house that is allegedly 20°c).

Yeah right.
The fact you want to leave milk and cereal out and keep milk on a windowsill instead of the fridge where it belongs, tells much more about you than it does her. Poor woman. Poor kids.

stayathomer · 26/01/2025 22:40

Op the moaning etc, surely that’s just life- do you never say you have a headache, or a stomachache or whatever? Is it only recently you feel like this? On mn people say ‘just leave’ but do you think she’d be floored by this? Upset? You have kids together- do you think in general you love each other? Do you do date night or chat watching tv?

BlackCatsForever · 26/01/2025 22:40

Wow, this is another wild thread! People creating a whole scenario from one wee (perhaps ill-chosen) throwaway comment. (People being pretty obtuse as well as it was obvious, at least to me, what the OP meant.)

Anyway… did everyone miss the bit about her having a cleaner even though she is a SAHM of primary children. She has all day to do stuff like putting the milk away (which takes all of 2 seconds) while the OP is out working (probably earning the money which pays for all her trips abroad). Surely someone in her position SHOULD be doing the majority of life admin etc (although doesn’t sound like she actually does) as what else would she be doing with the kids at school all day?

DancingFerret · 26/01/2025 22:43

Getting down to basics - do you and your wife love each other, OP?

SpunkyAmberReader · 26/01/2025 22:56

DancingFerret · 26/01/2025 22:43

Getting down to basics - do you and your wife love each other, OP?

I know if she could do it again, she wouldn't have married me. It was an arranged marriage, when the love is meant to grown after the marriage.

OP posts:
BoogieBox · 26/01/2025 23:12

SpunkyAmberReader · 26/01/2025 18:57

Its the constant complaining that is driving me mad.
If she is cold, she will need to tell me 10 times that she is cold. If she has a headache she will need to tell me 20 times that she has a headache. It's this constant, almost daily grind of having to listen.
Our kitchen is fairly cold, the milk is fine outside.

Maybe you aren't giving her enough love and support, meaning she has to keep asking you for it, instead of you seeing her distress and acting on it

BoogieBox · 26/01/2025 23:14

SpunkyAmberReader · 26/01/2025 20:12

I do all of this. Why are you making it seem raising children requires someone to be a full time SAHM?

And there we have it. You think she should be working AND doing everything else. Get divorced then?

CagneyNYPD1 · 26/01/2025 23:20

I think I understand what you are trying to say @SpunkyAmberReader. It's an arranged marriage which, on the surface, appears successful. You have 2 children and a home together. But the warm feelings of mutual love did not grow. You irritate each other. Many married couples do.

So it is more of a partnership than a loving marriage. So how would you like the partnership to continue moving forward?

WallaceinAnderland · 26/01/2025 23:33

You clearly just don't like each other. Why are you staying together? Neither of you is right or wrong, you're just incompatible. When she gets back have a chat with her about separation and take it from there.

SpunkyAmberReader · 26/01/2025 23:42

BoogieBox · 26/01/2025 23:12

Maybe you aren't giving her enough love and support, meaning she has to keep asking you for it, instead of you seeing her distress and acting on it

Yes, I think she is guilty of doing this.

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SpunkyAmberReader · 26/01/2025 23:44

WallaceinAnderland · 26/01/2025 23:33

You clearly just don't like each other. Why are you staying together? Neither of you is right or wrong, you're just incompatible. When she gets back have a chat with her about separation and take it from there.

Quite honestly, because it's expected.

She hasn't worked in years, what type of job/ career will she get?

OP posts:
WallaceinAnderland · 27/01/2025 00:11

Expected by who?

She will manage. Hundreds of women separate from their partners and get by. It would also free her up to meet someone she is going to be happier with. Someone who will love and respect her. Someone who she can have a laugh with. It could be the making of both of you. No point choosing to remain miserable.

SpunkyAmberReader · 27/01/2025 00:18

WallaceinAnderland · 27/01/2025 00:11

Expected by who?

She will manage. Hundreds of women separate from their partners and get by. It would also free her up to meet someone she is going to be happier with. Someone who will love and respect her. Someone who she can have a laugh with. It could be the making of both of you. No point choosing to remain miserable.

yes, we would both be happier

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PoorAbbeyWalsh · 27/01/2025 00:20

Yanbu ! If most women feel the same way when hubbie goes away, why can't it work the other way? Enjoy yourself. Also sounds like a life I might like. Back home on holiday very often, no kids.

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/01/2025 00:28

I put the milk near the window, the window has an air vent, so it's pretty cool. I wouldnt keep the milk outside during spring or summee because it would spoil. But in winter, in the kitchen, near a window vent, the milk will remain fine.

So there's a specific place you put the milk in the kitchen so it doesn't spoil? Like a fridge. Only not. But opening the door of the fridge is so taxing you don't?

I mean, leave her if you want but that's batshit. And it does look like something someone would do just to be a bit of a dick.

Wheninromme · 27/01/2025 01:35

Got to love MN, dude is considering a divorce and posters are concern about the milk being left out.

(Reminds me of the poster who went to town with their family, bought Chinese takeaway for dinner, then had a big argument leading them to go home separately. Everyone was concerned with her lugging the Chinese through the shops loool).

RawBloomers · 27/01/2025 02:12

SpunkyAmberReader · 26/01/2025 23:44

Quite honestly, because it's expected.

She hasn't worked in years, what type of job/ career will she get?

It’s a reasonable concern, but not one without solutions. What did she do before you had kids? Can she retrain? If she sacrificed her financial power to look after the kids then she can be compensated in the divorce settlement to give her time to retrain and build up. But the longer the current situation goes on, the worse it will be for her.

steff13 · 27/01/2025 02:41

minipie · 26/01/2025 20:45

When she tells you she is cold do you put the heating up?

When she tells you she has a headache do you get her some painkillers?

I am wondering if she says it 20 times because you ignore her.

If you were cold why wouldn't you turn the heat up yourself? If you had a headache why wouldn't you get the painkillers yourself?

mjf981 · 27/01/2025 03:49

Get divorced. You're not happy. You could be happier. And so could she. Life is too short.

ThinkingThroughOptions · 27/01/2025 04:59

Wheninromme · 27/01/2025 01:35

Got to love MN, dude is considering a divorce and posters are concern about the milk being left out.

(Reminds me of the poster who went to town with their family, bought Chinese takeaway for dinner, then had a big argument leading them to go home separately. Everyone was concerned with her lugging the Chinese through the shops loool).

Edited

It's indicative of who is most likely the real problem!

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 27/01/2025 05:13

LostittoBostik · 26/01/2025 19:32

In answer to your question there's a lot you haven't covered:

  • play dates/clubs/ subs admin
  • teacher conferences and knowing how they're doing in different subjects so you know where to push for extra support
  • homework to assist with or monitor
  • emotional support re: friendships (they may automatically go to her, not you, with this)
  • food prep and meal planning, and food shopping
  • shopping for all materials that they need for all the projects from school etc
  • remembering their friends' birthdays ans buying gifts etc
  • taking them to social events eg birthday parties (often requires juggling as they need to be in different places at the same time)
  • managing any long term illness or needs eg diarising symptoms, checking in with specialists etc
  • managing uniform ans out of work clothes: buying/awapping/ l
-laundry (it's at least a load a day with 2 kids and 2 adults)
  • things they need for school eg world book day/ tree of life bags/ donations for this that or the other fundraiser/ reminding them which day is uniform day etc

And loads I've forgotten.

If you feel like she's nagging she's probably really miserable too. Something isn't right. If she's saying she has a headache 20 times it's because she doesn't feel heard the first 19.

I suspect you would both be happier separated but to make that work and for you to have an ongoing relationship with your children you really do have to do your 50 per cent when you're living apart. Otherwise the kids won't be interested in you once they reach adulthood.

This is kind of intense.

I have a child with complex medical needs. I manage all this as a single mom. It's not that hard especially with kids in school.

A lot of those things don't apply daily and the wife has kids in school, a cleaner, and no job.

I think it's ok to admit her life just isn't that hard.

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