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Dh has new female friend

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Saladdays01 · 24/01/2025 22:38

DH (married 20 years) has recently become good friends with female colleague. She is separated with a young DD. Met her at a social event last month, she seems nice and has asked to meet up just with me too. However she messages my Dh nearly every other day now. Sometimes work stuff but usually sharing links to stuff they are interested in etc. I think it’s just friendly and she’s done the same with me (to a much, much lesser extent as we don’t really know each other yet). They do share a lift occasionally too. AIBU to be worried about all this? Dh says she’s just a person and I have absolutely nothing to worry about. They are talking about going for a drink at some point but I feel a bit uneasy about this. Should I invite myself along too or is that weird?!

OP posts:
ShiningStar3 · 02/06/2025 21:25

I don't think you're being unreasonable to be apprehensive and maybe I'm a little bit naive but the fact that she's trying to connect with you seems like a good sign to me. In her position I think I would rather focus my efforts on forming friendships with other women, but putting myself in her shoes.. maybe the fact that your partner is happily married makes her more comfortable developing a friendship with him? As you would hope a married/taken man wouldn't view you as a potential conquest the same way single men often do!

That being said, I personally wouldn't ever have the desire to develop such a close friendship with a man especially if he was in a relationship, purely out of respect for his partner and because of this exact situation. We can argue that OW owe the wives nothing til the cows come home but for me it's a question of ethics.

I think the posters encouraging you to meet her and get a feel for things are on the right track. All the best, OP and I'm hoping that this is just a (perhaps slightly misguided) woman looking to make friends.

TipsyRaven247 · 02/06/2025 21:36

It's just so odd that she was so nice with you and all of a sudden she tries to kiss your husband out of the blue. Something does not add up.

Emptyspiral · 02/06/2025 21:41

OP, it is okay to have boundaries and tell him to cut her off. He needs to choose between the two of you. No good will come of you wondering and worrying. If he loves you he won't do things to hurt you. He needs to be told flat out no more.

Missj25 · 02/06/2025 22:08

Saladdays01 · 02/06/2025 21:18

Said he should be able to go for a drink with whoever he wants

I’ve seen this advice given before on Mumsnet & I think it’s very clever ..
You go & get a friend of yours now to start messaging you , but pretend it’s a male colleague from work & be all smiles when you’re on the phone & arrange a drink, see how that sits with him ..
Put your friends number in under a male name ..
I’m sure he won’t be conversing with his female colleague for long more then ..

Missj25 · 02/06/2025 22:10

TipsyRaven247 · 02/06/2025 21:36

It's just so odd that she was so nice with you and all of a sudden she tries to kiss your husband out of the blue. Something does not add up.

She’s all nice to OP cause it’s fake , pretending to be so friendly , but really she wants to move in on her husband, otherwise why didn’t she message & ask OP when would be a good time for them to meet for a drink ..

Mrsknowitall · 02/06/2025 22:29

He probably looked awkward when she kissed him because your other friend was there and saw it, if they hadn’t been he probably would have kissed her back. Does he still think he can be friends with her? Has he said why he didn’t tell you and you had to hear it from someone else?

outerspacepotato · 02/06/2025 22:45

He's giving you excuses, not answers. And now he's back to he can drink with who he wants. Even when they try to kiss him? She's not his friend. She's a wannabe lover if not an actual affair partner already and he knows it.

Why did he meet up with her after he had agreed not to?

I think he's full of bullshit. She's been separated since you started this thread at the beginning of the year. He's already gone behind your back and lied.

I think it's time to explore your options with a good lawyer.

MsDogLady · 02/06/2025 23:51

Your H feels entitled to break the boundary that he previously agreed to so that he could have a secret 1:1 drinks date with OW. Now he is gaslighting you by downplaying both her romantic gesture and his keeping the secret instead of feeling mortified and apologizing to you.

@Saladdays01, are you thinking that (1) they’ve already been crossing lines and he stopped the kiss because they were seen or (2) he pulled away because she breached platonic boundaries?

Did he know that your Friend was around? If so, of course he broke away awkwardly and made a joke.

And yes, OW has been using you and feigning friendship to keep you close and throw you off the scent while she lusts after H. The question is, have they actually been having an EA or PA? I believe so.

In my view, your initial niggles were valid. H weakened his boundaries and opened a window to OW months ago, and has been flattered and validated by her intense interest. They’ve been getting closer via proximity, attraction, over-familiarity, and confiding. It sounds like they have an intimate KISA/Damsel dynamic and are firmly in EA territory which possibly led to some physical involvement prior to the public kiss. It didn’t come out of nowhere.

@Saladdays01, it is very troubling that H intends to prioritize OW by continuing this inappropriate relationship. Even if by chance it is one-sided (it isn’t), he cannot justify disrespecting you and your marriage by continuing contact with this woman who kissed him. You’d be very foolish to tolerate that degradation and the anxiety it will trigger.

If this were my H, he’d be dropping OW, coming clean, and taking full responsibility for his faithless behavior or it would be game over.

ShiningStar3 · 03/06/2025 04:30

I can't edit my previous message now, but I clearly missed subsequent comments from OP regarding the kiss situation. I just wanted to address that because my last comment will probably now come off as slightly dismissive which I apologise for!

Codlingmoths · 03/06/2025 04:54

Saladdays01 · 02/06/2025 21:18

Said he should be able to go for a drink with whoever he wants

And he can. But if it’s my dh and he wants to go for drinks with women who’ve tried to kiss him, he’s not welcome under my roof or in my bed, and he isn’t in a relationship with me anymore. I’d message ‘I am not happy in a marriage with a man who feels entitled to go for drinks with women who’ve tried to kiss him, I am allowed boundaries too and your behaviour is outside mine. We should schedule mediation for navigating the separation so you are indeed free to go for drinks with whoever you like without the shackles of a pissed off wife.’
then when he comes home you go out and let it all out with a friend. Tonight isn’t the night for talking.

AlisonWhatIsTheMatter · 03/06/2025 05:00

Saladdays01 · 02/06/2025 21:14

He said it was no big deal, I wasn’t free (at work) and she just happened to be in the area and texted him last minute and he thought that would be fine.

I call bullshit on this.

Sounds like it was pre-planned and not a last minute invitation as ‘she was in the area’.

PearTreeBoat · 03/06/2025 05:36

CheekyHobson · 24/01/2025 22:48

She is separated

What a surprise.

Do you really think that people strike up a daily messaging relationship with someone of the opposite sex that they have no romantic interest in?

Use common sense. Your DH is angling for an affair and she is encouraging it.

Edited

Yes, shock horror people of the opposite sex can be just friends!!

I am currently single and have a handful of male friends, some of whom are married or in long term relationships, with who I WhatsApp with regularly. In fact, I often meet up with them for a hike or for drinks or whatever and it is all purely platonic on both sides.

If a man is going to be unfaithful, then he's going to be unfaithful regardless of if he has female friends or not.

KaleQueen · 03/06/2025 06:04

PearTreeBoat · 03/06/2025 05:36

Yes, shock horror people of the opposite sex can be just friends!!

I am currently single and have a handful of male friends, some of whom are married or in long term relationships, with who I WhatsApp with regularly. In fact, I often meet up with them for a hike or for drinks or whatever and it is all purely platonic on both sides.

If a man is going to be unfaithful, then he's going to be unfaithful regardless of if he has female friends or not.

Erm. They’ve gone out drinking and he’s lied (by omission) to his wife about it. She’s tried to kiss him. How is that platonic and ‘cool’.

PearTreeBoat · 03/06/2025 06:55

KaleQueen · 03/06/2025 06:04

Erm. They’ve gone out drinking and he’s lied (by omission) to his wife about it. She’s tried to kiss him. How is that platonic and ‘cool’.

Edited

Because that wasn't what I was replying to. I was replying to your statement that men and women can't possibly ever message each other without it being an affair of one sort or another.

People, men or women, that are willing to cheat are going to do it regardless. Doesn't mean that we have to tar every person who has a friend of the opposite sex with the same brush.

Missj25 · 03/06/2025 08:37

Codlingmoths · 03/06/2025 04:54

And he can. But if it’s my dh and he wants to go for drinks with women who’ve tried to kiss him, he’s not welcome under my roof or in my bed, and he isn’t in a relationship with me anymore. I’d message ‘I am not happy in a marriage with a man who feels entitled to go for drinks with women who’ve tried to kiss him, I am allowed boundaries too and your behaviour is outside mine. We should schedule mediation for navigating the separation so you are indeed free to go for drinks with whoever you like without the shackles of a pissed off wife.’
then when he comes home you go out and let it all out with a friend. Tonight isn’t the night for talking.

This exactly, makes a lot of sense & it is how any of us would be , I’m sure your husband too OP ..

Goditsmemargaret · 03/06/2025 09:08

Hi OP, I read your full thread and initially was feeling solidarity with this woman. I myself was the single woman for many years and I got so tired of being seen as a threat or left out of social gatherings. I wasn't after anyone's man and it was upsetting having constant suspicions levelled at me. I saw this woman was reaching out to you too and I thought you have nothing to worry about.

I did think you were perfectly reasonable to draw the link at them going for a drink alone however. I have many friends of both sexes. My DH is the most trusting man, never minds my male friendships but I would not feel right about this; it's leaving the door open for something messy to happen.

However now I've seen the recent developments I have done a full 180. Everything about this ís fucked up. You were honest with your husband and he rewarded you by going off alone the two of them. And as for a daytime drinking session; how pathetic. He didn't even tell you what she did so he's now aligning himself with her. The work colleague told you for a reason; she's urging caution.

I would, at this point, go nuclear. In fact I have gone nuclear in the past when the line was crossed - it was different circumstances but not meeting my acceptable standards. It doesn't matter if 'nothing happened' because actually something did happen and he has kept it a secret. He also went against your wishes and agreement.

He wouldn't be welcome in my bed and I'd be reconsidering the relationship. It would be a full on this marriage or that friendship for me now at this point. He's been an idiot.

KaleQueen · 03/06/2025 09:16

PearTreeBoat · 03/06/2025 06:55

Because that wasn't what I was replying to. I was replying to your statement that men and women can't possibly ever message each other without it being an affair of one sort or another.

People, men or women, that are willing to cheat are going to do it regardless. Doesn't mean that we have to tar every person who has a friend of the opposite sex with the same brush.

Wasn’t my statement. Course they can be. But your point was a bit pointless in this context surely?

Cookiecrumblepie · 03/06/2025 09:22

Poor you OP. Your relationship is now almost over, unless your husband chooses you. I don’t think this “have my cake and eat it too” really works. I wouldn’t listen to any excuses, either he cuts her off completely or it’s over.

RealEagle · 03/06/2025 09:23

So he is just going to do what he wants.Did you ever meet her on your own?

MsDogLady · 24/06/2025 01:19

@Saladdays01, I’ve been wondering how you’ve been doing. Did your H ever distance himself from OW?

Rubytuesday77 · 03/09/2025 20:31

I wouldn’t be happy with this at all, yanbu.

Rubytuesday77 · 03/09/2025 20:35

”the fact that she's trying to connect with you seems like a good sign to me”
i think exactly the opposite, it’s a crafty move to pretend she wants to be friends with the wife, but really she’s got designs on the husband.

QuaintPearlScroller · 04/09/2025 11:32

No chance would I allow this if my dh goes out for a drink it’s with me

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