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To want to leave my terminally ill husband and disabled son behind

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FedUp2025 · 24/01/2025 08:37

My husband is ill with stage 4 cancer.
My 5 yr old son has severe adhd and is a nightmare. Volatile, agressive and manipulative. No amount of love or positive parenting has made any difference whatsoever to this child.
I'm fed with the pair of them. I get nothing but abuse and and shouting all day at me.
I'm done. When I forget things I'm supposed to do for them or miss 1 item off the sopping list. All I get is how selfish I am and how they hate me.

After my husband passes I just want to put this child into care and live a peaceful life.
AIBU?

OP posts:
x2boys · 24/01/2025 14:37

user1492757084 · 24/01/2025 11:45

Could you contact a Foster Care organisation for some regular respite for your son now? Don't wait until your husband becomes sicker.
Speak to your husband's doctor about how you are not really coping. There might be assistance available, of which you are not aware.

You are reasonable, to feel the way you do.
You deserve to look forward to waking up every morning.

Yeah it doesn't work that way I know people are trying to be kind but it's not as simple as just organising some respite care
And not at all helpful for people to continue to suggest it as it's not realistic.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/01/2025 18:01

ByRedExpert · 24/01/2025 11:53

YANBU This scumbag man sounds abusive and you need to leave ASAP. Take a picture of the bank statement to get your ducks in a row so to speak. He may be in continual pain with terminal cancer, but that is no excuse not to pull his weight around the house, being kind and considerate. It sounds like you are married to a misogynist, but he sounds like he hasn't long left so every cloud and all that. I had a similar situation with my DH, he got a terminal brain tumour but it didn't excuse his vile behaviour demanding a bring him food/water at the drop of a hat. I couldn't take much more so moved out to mums house and thankfully when I returned nature had taken its course.

Your 5 year old is a little more tricky, if things are that bad as you say, put "that child " which indicates little bond into care. You would then be free to enjoy life, maybe meet a new partner who was less selfish than the bastard you are with currently and perhaps a new child who is more suitable. TC OP, you sound like a loving, caring woman and once the current DH shuffles off, hopefully things will improve

I don’t know where to start with this. Calling a terminally ill man a scumbag on the limited information available. Suggesting that despite trying to come to terms with his own mortality and possible intractable pain he should be ‘pulling his weight around the house’ ?!!!! If your own DH had a terminal brain tumour, correct me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t that be largely responsible for his behaviour and out of his control ? But you call him vile and you left him to die alone. And you’re encouraging OP to do the same. One of the most unpleasant posts I’ve seen on any MN thread.

Errors · 24/01/2025 18:05

You only get one life OP. Do not waste it. Do what you need to do.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/01/2025 18:07

ComeHomeSoonPlease · 24/01/2025 10:36

I don’t advise her to leave her child and I know she won’t.

Can you not see someone at the end of her tether?? I challenge anyone to not break after being physically and mentally exhausted and then abused. Even by a loved child.

She is using language here and saying stuff that she cannot do in real life. She is venting online to try and feel better. I hope it’s cathartic for her. I don’t think for a minute she is cold and detached to her husband and son in real life all the time. Why do you?

She is showing them ‘kindness and care’ by her actions every day. Give her a break.

Unless her child is on MN and reading this, she can frankly say what she likes. When my son was a tiny baby, he had colic and screamed all night. One night when I was rocking him and he would not stop crying, I wished that I could throw him out of the window. Would I have? Of course not. And I didn’t. But sometimes the thoughts and words we have, are a reflection of our emotional distress rather than reality.

Some common sense at last.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 24/01/2025 18:21

Rosscameasdoody · 24/01/2025 18:01

I don’t know where to start with this. Calling a terminally ill man a scumbag on the limited information available. Suggesting that despite trying to come to terms with his own mortality and possible intractable pain he should be ‘pulling his weight around the house’ ?!!!! If your own DH had a terminal brain tumour, correct me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t that be largely responsible for his behaviour and out of his control ? But you call him vile and you left him to die alone. And you’re encouraging OP to do the same. One of the most unpleasant posts I’ve seen on any MN thread.

I think that PP is making an admittedly poor attempt at sarcasm.

Uricon2 · 24/01/2025 18:23

ThatsNotMyTeen · 24/01/2025 18:21

I think that PP is making an admittedly poor attempt at sarcasm.

Sadly, she says not.

Nope, many may not be religious but for me it was simply a case of leaving it in God's hands. The situation with the OP's child is more tricky, so would advocate care rather than abandonment

I know it defies belief, I thought sarcasm too but that was her response.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 24/01/2025 18:25

Uricon2 · 24/01/2025 18:23

Sadly, she says not.

Nope, many may not be religious but for me it was simply a case of leaving it in God's hands. The situation with the OP's child is more tricky, so would advocate care rather than abandonment

I know it defies belief, I thought sarcasm too but that was her response.

oh fgs

how awful but thanks for clarifying

Eaglemom · 24/01/2025 18:47

JimHalpertsWife · 24/01/2025 09:30

Have Macmillan been able to offer any support? Not just for dh but for you and ds too.

Would you consider arranging for dh to go into a Hospice?

I think this has already been mentioned but there is criteria to be met to go into hospices, they are stretched to capacity and none of them offer respite stays.

saraclara · 24/01/2025 18:56

Eaglemom · 24/01/2025 18:47

I think this has already been mentioned but there is criteria to be met to go into hospices, they are stretched to capacity and none of them offer respite stays.

Yep. And someone can meet all the criteria, and still not have a cat in hell's chance of getting a hospice bed.

The vast majority of people seem to have no idea of the pressure on hospices, and who they're actually there for. I didn't either, until my husband was dying.

Fortunately he was an easy patient and we were able to give him a lovely peaceful death at home, which was what he wanted. But I feel for anyone who doesn't have, or can't offer that experience, who looks to multiple hospices, and discovers there's no chance of a bed.

BlondeMamaToBe · 24/01/2025 18:57

You don’t need to put up with your husband because he has cancer. I would be leaving him.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 24/01/2025 19:13

Your situation sounds absolutely dire. I know what it means to care for sick people as I cared for my mother during her dying days and have been caring for my mentally ill son for 20 years. Please try and get all the help you can and God Bless xx

Rosscameasdoody · 24/01/2025 19:20

ThatsNotMyTeen · 24/01/2025 18:21

I think that PP is making an admittedly poor attempt at sarcasm.

Nope. She’s perfectly serious. She says she left her DH in Gods’ hands. Absolutely beggars belief.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/01/2025 19:31

BlondeMamaToBe · 24/01/2025 18:57

You don’t need to put up with your husband because he has cancer. I would be leaving him.

She’s not putting up with him because he has cancer. She’s caring for him because he’s dying. There’s a difference. We don’t know if he’s had a change in personality because of the illness - if so it’s beyond his control. We don’t know how recently he got a cancer diagnosis, or indeed a terminal diagnosis. He may be acting out because he’s struggling to come to terms with it. No-one is saying that his behaviour is acceptable but encouraging OP to leave her dying DH when she’s in no fit mental state to decide that rationally, is totally irresponsible. The likelihood is that she will come to bitterly regret it and she’ll have to live with it for the rest of her life. There are no do-overs here.

OP has been failed by the system and left to get on with things until she’s reached breaking point. I’ve no doubt that she’s saying things in her posts precisely because she is at breaking point and not because she actually wants or intends to leave DH or her son. But the fact that she’s been allowed to reach such a low point is a disgrace. She needs help to deal with the situation she’s in, and there have been lots of suggestions here as to how to get the ball rolling with that help - that’s likely the real reason she posted. But that hasn’t stopped some posters here from salivating at the prospect of being utterly cruel in delivering a verbal kicking to someone who is already on their knees.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/01/2025 19:36

saraclara · 24/01/2025 18:56

Yep. And someone can meet all the criteria, and still not have a cat in hell's chance of getting a hospice bed.

The vast majority of people seem to have no idea of the pressure on hospices, and who they're actually there for. I didn't either, until my husband was dying.

Fortunately he was an easy patient and we were able to give him a lovely peaceful death at home, which was what he wanted. But I feel for anyone who doesn't have, or can't offer that experience, who looks to multiple hospices, and discovers there's no chance of a bed.

This. It’s easy to pick ‘respite’ and ‘hospice’ out of the air as perfectly accessible as and when needed, but the reality, as you say, is totally different. Many homes in our area have closed down, and the remaining ones who offered respite care cannot do so now because places are being bought up by the NHS for those patients who are bed blocking because they are not yet independent enough to be discharged home. So the care homes are a kind of halfway house. And places in hospices are like gold dust with waiting lists of many months - in many cases beyond the remaining life span of those who need them.

Seadragonusgiganticusmaximus · 25/01/2025 01:53

JimHalpertsWife · 24/01/2025 09:03

OP, would it help to know that if you were this sick, your dh would likely have divorced/left you? It's a known fact that men are highly likely to divorce or leave when their wives get this sick.

If he is abusive to you, then you can (and should) leave. Cancer isn't a reason to have to accept domestic abuse.

It's likely the calmer new home would also benefit your son, or at least give you the heads pace to handle his behaviour a little easier. And give you time to consider the long term plans with your son.

Where do you get this from? It absolutely does not accord with my experience and when I googled I found this https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet/# which says the the study which “discovered” this was retracted.

The Fastest Retraction Ever

On December 26, 2023, someone posted a message on Reddit saying that one in five husbands leave their wives if their wife is diagnosed with a serious illness. I'm guessing they were referencing a 2009 study exploring whether MS and cancer diagnoses aff...

https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet#

XWKD · 25/01/2025 02:30

It's not too late to leave your abusive husband. You're clearly overwhelmed by your son. Look into all the possibilities.

Rosscameasdoody · 25/01/2025 12:10

Machya · 24/01/2025 11:34

If he has always been abusive, then leave.
Contact his GP and say you are done.

Contact Women's aid for advice.
As for your child, contact SS and ask for temporary fostering as you sound close to burn out.

Yes, because it’s just that simple isn’t it ?!!!

Pumpkinpie1 · 25/01/2025 12:32

I’m sorry you are going through this.
Sonetimes the hardest thing to do is to ask for help. But you need to do this.
Talk to your son’s school , is he in mainstream or special school ? The School needs to do a referral for you
Speak to your GP tell them you need help
Speak to Carers Resource and ask for their help . The shared care scheme can provide sitters who come to your home as well as overnight respite
Social Services should be doing a carers assessment for your needs as well as your sons , this is desperate and you need to be persistent.
You need help sharing the load of your H care , could manorlands help ?

Do you have family or friends who could offer support ?
Sadly my experience has been help doesn’t fall into your lap you need to ask for loudly

DonnaBanana · 25/01/2025 12:32

Just move out. It’s what many men would do in this sort of situation. Let him take care of the child. There’s no legal obligation for you to stay and it doesn’t sound like you like either of them.

x2boys · 25/01/2025 13:16

Pumpkinpie1 · 25/01/2025 12:32

I’m sorry you are going through this.
Sonetimes the hardest thing to do is to ask for help. But you need to do this.
Talk to your son’s school , is he in mainstream or special school ? The School needs to do a referral for you
Speak to your GP tell them you need help
Speak to Carers Resource and ask for their help . The shared care scheme can provide sitters who come to your home as well as overnight respite
Social Services should be doing a carers assessment for your needs as well as your sons , this is desperate and you need to be persistent.
You need help sharing the load of your H care , could manorlands help ?

Do you have family or friends who could offer support ?
Sadly my experience has been help doesn’t fall into your lap you need to ask for loudly

IF Op was to get shared care it would likely be a few hours a week
As for overnight respite yes it exists my son gets it but it takes years and is only really something a child with the most complex of needs will get
My so is severely autistic and is 14 and is allocated two nights of over night respite a month, from it being agreed at panel it took around 18 months for us to be able to access it
Even when my oldest son was critically ill and ,it made no difference despite being allegedly being pushed to top of the list.

x2boys · 25/01/2025 13:18

Rosscameasdoody · 25/01/2025 12:10

Yes, because it’s just that simple isn’t it ?!!!

Head, bang, wall.

Rosscameasdoody · 25/01/2025 14:01

DonnaBanana · 25/01/2025 12:32

Just move out. It’s what many men would do in this sort of situation. Let him take care of the child. There’s no legal obligation for you to stay and it doesn’t sound like you like either of them.

You would leave a terminally ill man, who is likely experiencing intractable pain to look after a five year old with special needs ? And your excuse for such terrible advice is that you think this is what many men would do ? There are some hugely cold and dispassionate posts on this thread, but I think you win it hands down for sheer lack of empathy for any of the people involved.

Rosscameasdoody · 25/01/2025 14:10

Pumpkinpie1 · 25/01/2025 12:32

I’m sorry you are going through this.
Sonetimes the hardest thing to do is to ask for help. But you need to do this.
Talk to your son’s school , is he in mainstream or special school ? The School needs to do a referral for you
Speak to your GP tell them you need help
Speak to Carers Resource and ask for their help . The shared care scheme can provide sitters who come to your home as well as overnight respite
Social Services should be doing a carers assessment for your needs as well as your sons , this is desperate and you need to be persistent.
You need help sharing the load of your H care , could manorlands help ?

Do you have family or friends who could offer support ?
Sadly my experience has been help doesn’t fall into your lap you need to ask for loudly

I’ve been in a similar situation to OP - disabled, looking after 94 year old resident mum with dementia as well as a disabled partner. Even after a cancer diagnosis last year, two lots of surgery and adjuvant treatment still to come, I can’t access any additional care. The shared care scheme will only provide a few hours a week, and overnight respite is rarely offered. Even hospice care for those very close to the end of their lives is hugely over subscribed and many will end their lives still on waiting lists. I think the first port of call is Social Services for a carers assessment, and contacting the hospital team looking after her DH, or possibly the palliative care team if one is involved. MacMillan is another option as they can signpost to other services. But the fact is that if OP has been pushed to the point where she sees her only escape as leaving, then the broken system of care in this country has already failed her.

FiveWhatByFiveWhat · 25/01/2025 15:47

DonnaBanana · 25/01/2025 12:32

Just move out. It’s what many men would do in this sort of situation. Let him take care of the child. There’s no legal obligation for you to stay and it doesn’t sound like you like either of them.

Jesus Christ.

Yes a lot of men walk away, but those men are cunts.

"Just" leave the confused 5 year old with a disability to be cared for by the angry, confused terminally ill dad. I'm sure op won't live to regret that at all...

Fucking hell.

Hankunamatata · 25/01/2025 15:49

Adhd diagnosis and medication is life changing

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