Is it really that wrong to want for your country what Trump stands for?

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I know that there are plenty of threads on Trump at the moment, but most of them are designed to rubbish the guy. That’s been done to death in the last 10 years.

He has still won two presidential elections so perhaps it’s time to move the discussion on a bit.Let’s put aside Trump’s personality, bluster, and whether he will deliver or not, for a second.

Is it really so wrong and bad to want to go for what his core message is? Why is the far right label used so liberally and will we ever see a government in this country which can tackle this madness -

A stop to or huge reduction in illegal immigration

Putting your own country first ahead of internationalism. It’s not a novel idea and certainly not a byword for automatically wanting war. In fact Trump’s argument is that war is bad

Saying no the climate hysteria. Climate change is real but climate emergency seems to be a made up concept to simply tax people to death to re distribute taxes to government lobbyists. Why should people accept being poorer in the name of this dangerous ideology

Putting a stop to woke madness. When did it become ok for state sponsored mutilation of children? Men pretending to be women in prison and hospitals getting access to women’s spaces. People being sanctioned do not using the correct pronouns

Driving the economy forward and putting a stop to endless freebies for those who have no intention of contributing to the system and refuse to work because they are sad.

The fact that someone as eccentric as Trump has to fly the flag for common sense ideas shows you just how batshit the political discourse has become.

The thing that many people will say no to is not what you do not want to do on all these issues, but what you would. Which is noticeably absent from your post.

There are plenty of articles defining it. I posted a link to one yesterday.

OP, you need to put the Daily Mail down, and step right away from it.

How would you feel if he was your child’s class teacher? Would you feel they’d be safe and prosper?

The proof will be in the pudding. One of his election promises was to solve everything wrong with America.

In four years, when he's barricaded in the Whitehouse, having made a lot more billionaires, we'll see if he's MAGA.

Hitler also won elections.

It's not wrong, it's 100% what I want for the UK . I fear it won't happen and we will end up uncivilised 3rd world.

He stands for making money and he's a bit shit at that by all accounts.

Anyone can promise people things. Appeal to base instincts. You can’t ’put aside’ whether or not he’ll deliver them or even try to.

I also keep thinking of Hitler. He wasn’t good for Germany or anyone else in the end was he?

US politics is scary. Where are the smart people? Why can’t they get a go?

Yes. It is wrong. No point in wanging on about it though, you'll have years to enjoy it and find out for yourself.

I'm wary of what methods he plans to use to reach his aims.
Remember, some of Hitler's plans sounded good to people at the time, until you realised his methods for achieving them.

Do you? Do you really??
Do you even know what 3rd world means?

They're eating the cats! They're eating the dogs! They're eating the pets! Of the people that live there!

No I do not want that for my country and I judge you hard if you do.

Really? You want Nigel Farage, and his kind, running this country?

Grab them by the pussy.

Do you not think there is a risk that this will go the other way though? That even more young people will question their gender because there's an element of "fuck your trump" to it?

Also I don't think he cares about making rich men richer. But he loves the ability to make them suck up to him. He's pure ego. The arselicking from Zuckerberg is particularly nauseating.

I really wanted 3 million a week to the NHS. Wasn't that what the winners stood for?

What he stands for

He's a convicted fellon and sex offender......

Yes, on the promise of making Germany great again.

Sound familiar?

Would love him to run the UK. Our country is a disgrace now and we need a decent strong leader to put it right again. One of the things he is sorting out is finding the missing children trafficked into USA. Thousands of them. Coaches full of crying kids disappearing In front of everyone and Donald is the only one who wants to find them. Biden didn't give a hoot he just wanted to eat ice cream and chat with the Queer community!!

On what planet do you have to live to see Trump as a bastion of women’s rights?

His cronies have removed the right of a 12 year old girl to abort her rapist’s baby. He’s a sex offender himself. In certain states, it may soon become law that if a woman does ANYTHING that the court deems contributed to her miscarriage, she will be sentenced as if she took the life of an actual person. It boggles the mind that sensible women can look at him and want the same for the UK.

When you realise that pretty much everything you’ve heard about Trump is twisted and a lie, it’s quite something.

lots of the lies appearing on this thread already: Charlottesville, convicted sex offender, only out for rich people.

Op, I agree with you fully, but Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real thing. All they see is orange Hitler, there’s no budging this view despite, as you say, him literally being the president for 4 years and already getting a ceasefire in Israel/palestine through,

His cronies have removed the right of a 12 year old girl to abort her rapist’s baby. He’s a sex offender himself. In certain states, it may soon become law that if a woman does ANYTHING that the court deems contributed to her miscarriage, she will be sentenced as if she took the life of an actual person

How do you not know that Trump has stated a hundred times that he’s leaving the abortion laws up to the states? You even say it in your post that “in some states” yet somehow that is orange Hitler’s fault still?

Election promises...

Have you read the many calls on here for labour to step down because they are not fulfilling theirs?

Look at what else he wants to do. He wants to buy Greenland. When he got told no he sulked amd refused to come to Denmark.
He still wants to "buy Greenland" Doesn't seem to hear that Greenland doesn't want to be bought.

Similar with Panama

"Asked if he would rule out using military or economic force in order to take over the autonomous Danish territory or the Canal, he responded: "No, I can't assure you on either of those two. "

But sure he wants to do some "nice" thigs too.

I'm not comfortable with someone who doesn't understand the words "no you can't take over another country"

"Climate hysteria" and "woke madness" really have me little credence to listen to the rest of your post