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Grooming gangs being labelled as "Muslim grooming gangs"

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Olga009933 · 19/01/2025 17:48

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.
Why not just label them as "grooming gangs" or "Asian grooming gangs" (if wanting to be be specific).
Just thinking and wondering about the thousands of white British and presumably non-Muslim sex offenders who make the news. How many of them are labelled "Christian sex attacker" or "Jewish pervert" etc? Why is the religious heritage of a sex offender only mentioned why the offenders are of Muslim background?
If mentioning religion for one particular demographic then surely its only fair to mention the religious heritage of them all?

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HRTQueen · 19/01/2025 18:57

Because when it’s relevant it should be mentioned

These men are majority Muslim, they are of the opinion that white girls are trash

That it has been tiptoed around to supposedly keep relations good between different sections of society is wrong, the fear of not appearing accepting to other cultures is wrong what is acceptable here (or in the country you live in) is how you should be living you life. Men are women are equal here in law, that is fact regardless of what religion/culture background you are from

if’s absolutely madness that it has got to this

the men are Muslim, good Muslims no but they are Muslim and are choosing what parts of Islam apply to themselves

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 18:57

83% of sexual abuse is by white perpetrators, 70% of grooming gangs are white. Where is the reporting of white grooming gangs?

Circumferences · 19/01/2025 18:58

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 18:53

Why is so little being reported of white grooming and sexual abuse gangs?

Well there is actually, Epstein's Island and Hollywood is one example of "white" Paedophile ring exposure coming out right now. We've already had Scouts and the Catholic church. A LOT has been made of that already.

Hollywood is burning in more ways than one.....

Can we please stay on topic though?

Pakistani Muslim Paedophile rings are a real problem in the UK.

Circumferences · 19/01/2025 18:59

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 18:57

83% of sexual abuse is by white perpetrators, 70% of grooming gangs are white. Where is the reporting of white grooming gangs?

Look, a squirrel --->

But what about that?

Olga009933 · 19/01/2025 18:59

DeepFatFried · 19/01/2025 18:43

OP, if your point is that the Rotherham and other Northern gangs should be called 'Pakistani rape gangs' then fair enough. And the Bristol gang to be called a 'Somali rape gang'.

Yes! That's exactly my point! :)

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Tittat50 · 19/01/2025 19:01

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 18:47

Because people want to ignore the white grooming that goes on as they can then create a them and us situation where white ppl can get angry about people of other ethnicities doing this but ignore ppl of their own ethnicity doing it. They do not care when it is someone of their own ethnicity.

I have a special interest in the history of the Magdalene Laundries. Equally, systemic abuse via the Catholic Church. I don't see these institutions as having that much weight, power or sway right now and the approach is not quite as aggressively infiltrative as what I see happening with the Muslim grooming gang scenario. So to me, the threat as a white FEMALE, is something to really be mindful of. This story feeds into the concerns some of us have regards certain cultural and religious views about women full stop - terrifying.

It is frustrating not really knowing what's going on out there regards child abuse. Certain stories may not be media worthy, yet, there will be another group under the shadows perpetuating awful abuses I'm sure.

It doesn't mean one can't have strong feelings about the Muslim rape gang situation and how the particular religion and culture might have provided the backdrop to enable such a large group to collectively think this is ok

mistymorning12 · 19/01/2025 19:01

Because they’re Muslim?

Circumferences · 19/01/2025 19:01

White Paedos in our country are banged up regularly, they're not protected in our country unless they're a billionaire.
Pakistani Muslim Paedos are protected even when they're on benefits. They get away with it because of the political agenda that prioritises multi culturalism even when it's a bad idea.

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 19:02

Circumferences · 19/01/2025 18:58

Well there is actually, Epstein's Island and Hollywood is one example of "white" Paedophile ring exposure coming out right now. We've already had Scouts and the Catholic church. A LOT has been made of that already.

Hollywood is burning in more ways than one.....

Can we please stay on topic though?

Pakistani Muslim Paedophile rings are a real problem in the UK.

No I’m talking about the white gangs in this country abusing children online and offline, every day, every hour. Why is there zero reporting?

BlueberryShortcakePixie · 19/01/2025 19:02

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 18:57

83% of sexual abuse is by white perpetrators, 70% of grooming gangs are white. Where is the reporting of white grooming gangs?

Fuck off with your whataboutery.

Olga009933 · 19/01/2025 19:02

HRTQueen · 19/01/2025 18:57

Because when it’s relevant it should be mentioned

These men are majority Muslim, they are of the opinion that white girls are trash

That it has been tiptoed around to supposedly keep relations good between different sections of society is wrong, the fear of not appearing accepting to other cultures is wrong what is acceptable here (or in the country you live in) is how you should be living you life. Men are women are equal here in law, that is fact regardless of what religion/culture background you are from

if’s absolutely madness that it has got to this

the men are Muslim, good Muslims no but they are Muslim and are choosing what parts of Islam apply to themselves

the men are Muslim, good Muslims no but they are Muslim and are choosing what parts of Islam apply to themselves

The exact same thing can be said of Any sex attacker of white Christian or British heritage. He was just choosing which parts of Christianity to apply..
Same if the offender was Jewish /Hindu or any other religion.

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Tricho · 19/01/2025 19:03

Olga009933 · 19/01/2025 18:59

Yes! That's exactly my point! :)

And you're incorrect

I'm all for leaving out dog whistles where we can, when the information isn't relevant

But here the information is relevant

In the same way it was

catholic priests who abused children
white men who owned slaves
straight men who killed Matthew shepard
Nazi party members who exterminated Jews

Shying away from this pertinent information because God forbid a link is rightly made is preposterous

Horriblevirusagain · 19/01/2025 19:03

They are predominantly Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. Ask a victim what they would call them !

Betchyaby · 19/01/2025 19:04

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 18:57

83% of sexual abuse is by white perpetrators, 70% of grooming gangs are white. Where is the reporting of white grooming gangs?

Do you understand per capita?

Womansplainer · 19/01/2025 19:05

Bengali Muslim, Pakistani Muslim.

I was told the rape of white girls is 'Jihad' That was straight from the horses mouth.

I'm not allowed to talk about it though.

The re emergence of this being worthy of a campaign is timely.
Timely enough to throw a big Muslim shadow over the Church of England's safeguarding failings in the wake of Justin Welby's resignation.

Xenia · 19/01/2025 19:06

The reason it was important to name it what it was in those cases is because not naming it and avoiding going after the Pakistani men was due to political correctness. That was very unfair on the girls. No one has ever said only large groups of men from Pakistan do this

Elseaknows · 19/01/2025 19:06

That is why basic British values being taught in schools are not "right wing" or something from the EDL handbook.

We need to let everyone living here in the UK know that everyone should be treated equally, justice is important, respect goes both ways, tolerance goes both ways, that we believe in democracy, individual liberty and the rule of law (of our country).

This means it doesn't matter what gender, sexual identity or religion you are. You hurt someone, you are held accountable for your actions. You can't hide behind a community. It doesn't matter what ideology you practice. It doesn't matter how women are treated in your parents homeland. It doesn't matter if someone brought dishonor on your family name because they were gay or got divorced.

That is what we should stand for. Not whatever the political party happens to be in power at the time.

Twiney2 · 19/01/2025 19:06

HRTQueen · 19/01/2025 18:57

Because when it’s relevant it should be mentioned

These men are majority Muslim, they are of the opinion that white girls are trash

That it has been tiptoed around to supposedly keep relations good between different sections of society is wrong, the fear of not appearing accepting to other cultures is wrong what is acceptable here (or in the country you live in) is how you should be living you life. Men are women are equal here in law, that is fact regardless of what religion/culture background you are from

if’s absolutely madness that it has got to this

the men are Muslim, good Muslims no but they are Muslim and are choosing what parts of Islam apply to themselves

No part of Islam suggest white girls are trash.

Many white people are Muslim.

Raping anybody is wrong and not acceptable whatever the country or culture.

DaDaDoDaiDa · 19/01/2025 19:07

Birmingbacon · 19/01/2025 17:51

What about “ex-public school boy murders girlfriend” you never get “state educated man murders girlfriend”

95% of people in the UK are state educated, so 'state educated boy' is not a distinguishing characteristic and therefore not newsworthy, The percentage of people at actual public schools (as opposed to in private education) must be tiny, so it is a distinguishing factor.

Compare 'British man killed in Spanish train crash' with 'Man killed in London train crash' - you don't mention in the latter headline that he is British because the majority of people on the train would be assumed to be British, but you mention it in the former because the majority would be Spanish.

In the subject of the thread, Islam is a minority religion in the UK, so it's a distinguishing factor that should form part of the headline.

DeepFatFried · 19/01/2025 19:07

Olga009933 · 19/01/2025 18:59

Yes! That's exactly my point! :)

OK - that isn't 100% clear from your OP as you suggest they should simply be called 'grooming gangs'.

IMO 'grooming' is a euphemism and they should be called rape gangs.

Pakistani rape gangs?

Betchyaby · 19/01/2025 19:08

@Olga009933 It is rather incredible to me and the irony is not lost that your attitude toward not highlighting these grooming gangs as Muslims, is the very reason why there has been so many cover ups regarding this issue!

Tricho · 19/01/2025 19:08

Twiney2 · 19/01/2025 19:06

No part of Islam suggest white girls are trash.

Many white people are Muslim.

Raping anybody is wrong and not acceptable whatever the country or culture.

Is there a part of Islam that suggests non Muslims, especially females, are less than? Are sub human?

Hoppingabout · 19/01/2025 19:08

Twiney2 · 19/01/2025 18:54

Even the people who are seriously getting it wrong don't think that. Rape is rape no matter what the ethnicity of the faith of the victim is according to Islam.

Culturally they saw it incorrectly as a lesser crime.

The fact they chose non Muslims means their religion was relevant to their crimes.

FindingGlimmers · 19/01/2025 19:08

My god who cares? who cares about offending Muslims or Catholics or any other religious group, when children are being groomed and raped? Why is “coz racist” or “Tommy Robinson” or whatever more important than preventing that?

Twiney2 · 19/01/2025 19:09

Womansplainer · 19/01/2025 19:05

Bengali Muslim, Pakistani Muslim.

I was told the rape of white girls is 'Jihad' That was straight from the horses mouth.

I'm not allowed to talk about it though.

The re emergence of this being worthy of a campaign is timely.
Timely enough to throw a big Muslim shadow over the Church of England's safeguarding failings in the wake of Justin Welby's resignation.

Which horses mouth said that?

You can find people who will say anything. It is not hard, neither is it new.

Btw, jihad means the spiritual struggle oneself against sin. So it makes no sense to say rape of white girls is jihad.

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