Royal Secrets

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Critics flag ‘worrying trend’ of keeping royal files under lock and key as thousands set for release to public

This should be interesting. A big cover up again, no doubt.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/11/fears-grow-over-censorship-of-secret-queen-elizabeth-and-philip-papers

The public have a right to know. Too much secrecy.

I wonder if it is anything much and are we going to be better off for knowing.

They could all be having affairs for all I care

It's the secrecy and blocking of information that I'm more concerned about

I am certain I wouldn’t be better off for knowing what’s being hidden by the RF. I am also certain that this country would be miles better if it stopped allowing the RF to treat us like idiot subjects.

I wish we didn't have to put up with them. I support Republic, the pressure group which campaigns, (peacefully) for the abolition of the monarchy.
Unfortunately I just cannot see that happening when successive governments see no reason to disrupt the status quo.

Nah, gwan???

What direct impact is it going to have on your life???

Not happening.

Nothing is happening in my lifetime. I'm too old. But I hope for the future

The Catholic Church has immense revenue from its estates globally estimated to be over $250 billion. Revenue is estimated to be over $70 billion. The Vaticans wealth is around $15 billion. But all this is clouded in secrecy because they never divulge their financial records.
My stepmothers brother was an Irish priest who became an “accountant” within the Vatican, he left the priesthood when he was transferred to Brazil to oversee finance there. He fell in love, married and became an international banker. I suspect that he still works for the Vatican, which of course has its own bank.

As an aside, when my stepmothers brother divorced her first husband he refused to have anything more to do with her. Even when he left the priesthood to marry he still never reconciled with her. Stepmother, happily lapsed, was very bitter about his attitude and very sad since they had been close.

they dont treat us like anything ? they just keep their secrets secret or try to,

I’m far more interested in the decisions the present govt are making now (the policies that are actually affecting our lives) than who so & so snogged illicitly…. Seriously, wake up & care about what really matters and will directly affect your life (the royals really won’t).

I'm old too and I'm not bothered about a future when I won't be here!

My kids can worry about that.

It cost £113.5 million for security for the RF and VIPs . This is part of the £3+ billion Met Police budget. You are wanting transparency - which surely means more than just the cost which is easily available to anybody with Google.

I visited the Vatican for the first time last year. The opulence was incredible, so much so that by the time we made it to the Sistine Chapel, we were suffering from overload!

and let's not forget all the "royal experts" and "palace sources" who would all miss making a quick buck spouting nonsense and engaging in pointless speculation. All this venerating of people who are there by accident of birth is ridiculous and infantilises this country

I know, it seems pretty common knowledge there was some sort of relationship, plus it was on the Crown and most people seem to think that's true to life 😂

Couldn't care less. Bigger things to worry about.

That aristocrats born in the early 20th century had sex out of wedlock is hardly earth shattering news. Diana, Princess of Wales’ affairs with men married and single are widely reported and she remains “Queen of their Hearts” for many, as she so modestly expressed it. She was a relative spring chicken in terms of era too.

I do think the Queen’s position was uniquely awful from an outside perspective as she was unable to respond or retaliate without imperilling the institution she headed and saw herself as custodian of in a sacred line of succession. That’s me projecting my perspective though and it’s entirely possible that as long as Phillip was discreet and “put family first”, as a woman of her class and era it was a periodic minor irritation. We’ll never know.

If Prince Phillip had other children then I hope their privacy can be protected, if that is their wish, as the level of press and public interest would be grotesque and their lives would never be the same again.

Ironically Dianas affairs are the only affairs the Royalists will acknowledge

So, no impact at all on your life.

That's rubbish.

Anne had affairs - she married one of her affair partners. Mark Phillips did also and had a baby with another woman. AFAIK Charles only had one affair, with Camilla.

We knew Diana had affairs because the press exposed them. I'm pretty sure the Queen couldn't have risked an affair and I can't see her wanting to. I'm not convinced Philip did either. Margaret did, Fergie did. That's only the more recent royals.

Both Charles and Diana admitted their adultery in TV interviews!

I don't know where you got that notion!

I've had more threads and posts deleted in the last year than the previous, well near 20 years. I ask every time why? Because I haven't changed that much who I am. So probably it is telling me that society has changed. I find that quite interesting.

@mainecooncatonahottinroof so you think only the Royal women have affairs with the exception of Charles? None of the other men?

Honestly, if PP had affairs out of marriage and even children it really doesn't matter much does it? His kids out of wedlock, lovely as they might be, are not royal, not in the line of succession and entitled to privacy.

You think it does not matter if PP had children with other women?
Look at how much PR there was about the enduring love affair between Phillip and Elizabeth? If you do not want people to talk about your affairs and any children born, do not talk about your marriage full stop

I don't know anything about the other men. I don't know if Andrew had an affair while married to Sarah - he was away with the Navy a lot of their marriage. I doubt that Edward has had an affair. I don't believe that William or Harry has had affair!

I don't know about the Gloucesters or the Kents - do you? But listen, you go on, reveal what you know lol!!

Edward VIII I know was a prolific haver-of-affairs. His mistress Alice Keppel was Camilla's grandmother. I don't know about the monarchs in between. I don't think George VI was ever accused of having an affair. Edward VIII was known to be a womaniser but I've never heard of him cheating on Wallis when they were married?

I don't believe that PP had any other children. It would have come out long before now.

But go on, enlighten us with your superior knowledge!