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Royal Secrets

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Extiainoiapeial · 11/01/2025 20:11

Critics flag ‘worrying trend’ of keeping royal files under lock and key as thousands set for release to public

This should be interesting. A big cover up again, no doubt.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/11/fears-grow-over-censorship-of-secret-queen-elizabeth-and-philip-papers

The public have a right to know. Too much secrecy.

Fears grow over censorship of secret Queen Elizabeth and Philip papers

Critics flag ‘worrying trend’ of keeping royal files under lock and key as thousands set for release to public

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/11/fears-grow-over-censorship-of-secret-queen-elizabeth-and-philip-papers

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 18:59

You don't need to know anything about me and I have no wish to know anything about you. Nor am I taking instruction from you.

I did not insult anyone either. You're mightily easily offended.

Extiainoiapeial · 13/01/2025 19:04

You said 'shame they can't think for themselves' about my children.

I wouldn't dream of saying anything like that to anyone on here about their children. One step too far. Be as rude as you like about me. But not my kids.

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pelargoniums · 13/01/2025 19:04

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 18:53

It's not the done thing. There's only been one abdication and that was for a different reason.

Another way of looking at that is: there’s precedent for abdication and it can be for any reason. But why would workshy Wills abdicate? He’s got his lazy life made, and it’s his choice.

MerryMaker · 13/01/2025 19:09

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 18:53

It's not the done thing. There's only been one abdication and that was for a different reason.

Yes because Edward was a Nazi supporter and allegedly passed details of British troop movements to Nazi Germany.

DoloresODonovan · 13/01/2025 19:09

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 17:54

I don't believe that - there would have been too much at stake if an affair had emerged, and the Queen was all about duty. Can't see Philip taking it either!

Charles and Andrew had plenty of girlfriends back in the day but they weren't married at the time. I don't know if Andrew cheated on Sarah - I've never heard anything to suggest that he did. Charles of course cheated on Diana with Camilla but I am not aware that he did with anyone else. Diana had spectacularly scandalous affairs, including with married men. Parker Bowles was notoriously unfaithful to Camilla.

Mountbatten and his wife were rumoured to have had numerous affairs, and worse. I'm not sure we will ever know what went on. They weren't royals though.

PK was friends with the Queen as well as Philip.

you have more or less repeated everything, we already know all this
are you always so aggressive - is this your Specialist Subject ?

DoloresODonovan · 13/01/2025 19:12

Extiainoiapeial · 13/01/2025 19:04

You said 'shame they can't think for themselves' about my children.

I wouldn't dream of saying anything like that to anyone on here about their children. One step too far. Be as rude as you like about me. But not my kids.

quite right OP, a cheap jibe, discourteous

children should be off limits, no one should need to be told

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 19:20

DoloresODonovan · 13/01/2025 19:09

you have more or less repeated everything, we already know all this
are you always so aggressive - is this your Specialist Subject ?

Yes, I'm an expert. I might go on Mastermind.

Are you always so rude?

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 19:21

MerryMaker · 13/01/2025 19:09

Yes because Edward was a Nazi supporter and allegedly passed details of British troop movements to Nazi Germany.

And because he wanted to marry Wallis Simpson.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 19:22

Extiainoiapeial · 13/01/2025 19:04

You said 'shame they can't think for themselves' about my children.

I wouldn't dream of saying anything like that to anyone on here about their children. One step too far. Be as rude as you like about me. But not my kids.

You informed us that your DC and GC agree with you as though it was giving your opinion extra weight. You brought them into it.

My kids have different opinions to me on lots of things.

Extiainoiapeial · 13/01/2025 19:29

I didn't say that at all. I don't wish to discuss it anymore with you. I am asking you in a polite way to drop the subject. Thank you.

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 19:40

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Tomatotater · 13/01/2025 19:47

2dogsandabudgie · 13/01/2025 18:42

Where have you read that about the high staff numbers? William and Kate have 66 members of staff including a private secretary.

So they have a private secretary and a nanny, they apparently live in a small house with no room for staff but will probably have a dresser each, a butler, cook and housekeeper, a few gardeners living at Windsor Castle which is about 10, generously lets say 20 as they have a few other houses too. So the rest are organising about 200 engagements for two people a year? And people really believe William is doing anything at all behind the scenes but reading what other people have told him? How come his dad, the actual Head of State can do 4x the enfagements?He couldn't even be bothered to learn another language, despite being born into a role apparently as a diplomat.

MerryMaker · 13/01/2025 19:52

William went to a Bollywood event and said he had never seen a Bollywood movie. He told people at the BAFTAs that he had not watched nominated films.
Watching some films as preparation is really no big deal.

pelargoniums · 13/01/2025 19:55

The discussion of the royals’ “workload” (if we’re calling what they do “work”) always reminds me of the great line in Diana: Her True Story – “As a busy princess, Diana visited her hairdresser two or three times a day”. I imagine Kate, the Duchess of Do-little as the Queen brilliantly named her, has a similarly “busy” schedule.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 19:59

Tomatotater · 13/01/2025 19:47

So they have a private secretary and a nanny, they apparently live in a small house with no room for staff but will probably have a dresser each, a butler, cook and housekeeper, a few gardeners living at Windsor Castle which is about 10, generously lets say 20 as they have a few other houses too. So the rest are organising about 200 engagements for two people a year? And people really believe William is doing anything at all behind the scenes but reading what other people have told him? How come his dad, the actual Head of State can do 4x the enfagements?He couldn't even be bothered to learn another language, despite being born into a role apparently as a diplomat.

Edited

Who told you William doesn't speak any other languages?!

The staff are probably all just sitting there on their backsides gaming with William seeing as he doesn't do anything either...

Clawdy · 13/01/2025 20:02

Isn't Penelope K actually 32 years younger than Philip?

Tomatotater · 13/01/2025 20:03

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 19:59

Who told you William doesn't speak any other languages?!

The staff are probably all just sitting there on their backsides gaming with William seeing as he doesn't do anything either...

He doesn't. He said so. He seems almost proud of his complete ignorance. It was apparently a complete surprise to him when he became Prince of Wales and he didn't have any time to learn even rudimentary Welsh before it happened.

Extiainoiapeial · 13/01/2025 20:05

Who told you William doesn't speak any other languages?!

He doesn't. Unless you know different. He is the Prince of Wales and has avoided learning any Welsh, although did say once he could ask for a cup of tea in Welsh...
I am no fan of Charles but he did try hard to learn the language. And went to Aberystwyth University for a term to learn about Welsh History and try and learn the language and has given speeches in Welsh.

I just don't understand why William hasn't even attempted something along these lines.

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pelargoniums · 13/01/2025 20:06

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 19:59

Who told you William doesn't speak any other languages?!

The staff are probably all just sitting there on their backsides gaming with William seeing as he doesn't do anything either...

Doesn’t Charles have a fella whose job it is to put the toothpaste on his toothbrush for him? This is a man who apparently shrieked when he saw clingfilm for the first time. If his son is cut from the same cloth I imagine his 66 staff find plenty to fill their days.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 20:07

Tomatotater · 13/01/2025 20:03

He doesn't. He said so. He seems almost proud of his complete ignorance. It was apparently a complete surprise to him when he became Prince of Wales and he didn't have any time to learn even rudimentary Welsh before it happened.

Google says differently.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 20:08

pelargoniums · 13/01/2025 20:06

Doesn’t Charles have a fella whose job it is to put the toothpaste on his toothbrush for him? This is a man who apparently shrieked when he saw clingfilm for the first time. If his son is cut from the same cloth I imagine his 66 staff find plenty to fill their days.

I don't know - you tell me seeing as you apparently have so much insider information.

pelargoniums · 13/01/2025 20:10

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 20:08

I don't know - you tell me seeing as you apparently have so much insider information.

Try consulting the reliable resource you used above re Wills and his Welsh abilities, Google.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 20:17

I don't think it gives a rundown anywhere of the minutiae of activity inside royal residences!!?

crockofshite · 13/01/2025 20:22

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 18:53

It's not the done thing. There's only been one abdication and that was for a different reason.

But the option is open.

crockofshite · 13/01/2025 20:24

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 13/01/2025 18:42

I would - and I did!!

Oooo alright then, you win