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AIBU?

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My partner not wanting my mum to see my new baby

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Joelm1066 · 11/01/2025 16:33

I have recently had a baby boy with my partner. We have been together for six years. In the course of our relationship she has not got on well with my mother. My mum can be a bit tactless, but she has a good heart. However, my partner wants very limited contact with her despite my mum reaching out and trying to improve relations between them. After 6 years I have come to accept that she doesn’t want regular contact with her. However, since the birth of our child 8 days ago, she is insisting that she wants to wait at least a month before my mum sees the child even though he has met all of her close family and close friend. She says that it is because she only wants contact with people she’s comfortable around, but I think I have a right to introduce my child to his grandmother sooner than a month. AIBU?
It’s causing me a great deal of sadness and stress at a time when I should be happy. I don’t really know what to do.

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Reugny · 11/01/2025 18:15

OP who else in your family has your baby met? As I would be concerned if it's no one.

One way around it is to have another family member who is a peace maker accompany your mother for the short first visit. That way if your mum becomes an a-hole they make her leave your home asap.

Also people always give you advice about baby rearing so a month isn't going to make much difference if your mum is an a-hole.

pimplebum · 11/01/2025 18:19

Your partner can be distant from your mum if she wants ( but considering your examples it does sound a bit ott) but she can’t dictate how often you see her and considering your mum is not extremely offensive or inappropriate she shouldn’t restrict access to the grandchild

sre you sure there isn’t more to it ? Did your mum and partner sleep together?

LegoBingo · 11/01/2025 18:20

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 11/01/2025 18:07

WTF are postpartum mental health issues in a birthing partner? I’ve honestly heard it all now. Some people just need to get a fucking grip.

OP, I’d just tell your partner that your mum’s coming to see her grandchild, and if she doesn’t like it, she can take herself out. And if she doesn’t choose to take herself out, she is expected to be pleasant and polite.

As in the partner who gave birth??? Very common

jannier · 11/01/2025 18:20

LegoBingo · 11/01/2025 16:36

Was she the one who gave birth to your child? If so it could be her hormones are a bit all over the place so cut her a LOT of slack.

Not if she's trying to drive a wedge between the mil and her son without very good reason....everyone else has been to visit.....we need more details

jannier · 11/01/2025 18:21

I'd suggest you oh has a rest or nice long bath whilst your mum pops in

LegoBingo · 11/01/2025 18:22

DreamW3aver · 11/01/2025 17:43

Isn't it obvious that Joe/Joel is the dad?

No. In the same way I do not assume OP was born in 1066..

LegoBingo · 11/01/2025 18:23

outerspacepotato · 11/01/2025 18:05

So your partner had the baby.

You mom sounds like she's a critical know it all who can't keep her lip zipped.

Listen to your partner. She is using this time to get used to being a mom and taking care of the baby. She's in pain and exhausted and your mom visiting will stress her out.

Which is more important, pleasing your mom or pleasing the mom of your new baby?

Still not clear who gave birth here. It makes a huge difference

JustSawJohnny · 11/01/2025 18:24

Joelm1066 · 11/01/2025 17:59

thanks for your replies. Quite a lot to think about. I think it might be helpful for me to give a bit of background to why my partner and my mum don’t get along. The rather difficult aspect of this is that they used to be friend (not tier 1 friends, but good friends) before we got together. My partner stayed at my mums house as a lodger when she was in her mid twenties. I was only 19 at the time and there was nothing romantic between us. We reconnected about 10 years later and started seeing each other. We made the, in retrospect, unwise decision to move in with my mum as lodgers. From the begging my mum wanted to rekindle an old friendship whereas my partner wanted to be boundaried I.e, not hang out with her very much or do things together. I think my mum was slightly upset by this and their friendship deteriorated.

as regards my mom’s tactlessness, she can be slightly condescending in the way that she gives advice, she doesn’t mean to be but she’s always, she’s trying to help, but I can understand that it’s annoying. She’s also quite slightly judgmental of small aspects of peoples lives, ie a bit of an eco puritan who will comment if someone’s taken too many flights abroad in a given year. FYI she is not a drunk or a racist.

the problem as I see it is that when my partner is confronted with someone she doesn’t like she finds it very difficult to have a relationship of detached civility. She responds in quite extreme ways and tries to block them from her life completely and my mum has been quite hurt and confused by this.

DP clearly wasn't always offended by your DM's ways.

Maybe point out to her that her tendency to want to distance people she has conflict with cannot apply here as DM has just as much of a right to see her Grandchild as her family do.

I really think you're going to have to put your foot down here, OP. It may not be comfortable but it's for your child.

jannier · 11/01/2025 18:25

outerspacepotato · 11/01/2025 16:56

Who gave birth, you or partner? That matters.

Is MIL up to date on TDAP and other vaccines? An 8 day old is very vulnerable to infections.

What exactly do you mean by tactless? Are you dismissing or minimizing racist or bigoted remarks by your mother to your partner?

What about all the other visitors....family and friends....this has nothing to do with infection, bonding or feeding issues it's just controlling of relationship between op and mil by the oh

good96 · 11/01/2025 18:25

Joelm1066 · 11/01/2025 16:33

I have recently had a baby boy with my partner. We have been together for six years. In the course of our relationship she has not got on well with my mother. My mum can be a bit tactless, but she has a good heart. However, my partner wants very limited contact with her despite my mum reaching out and trying to improve relations between them. After 6 years I have come to accept that she doesn’t want regular contact with her. However, since the birth of our child 8 days ago, she is insisting that she wants to wait at least a month before my mum sees the child even though he has met all of her close family and close friend. She says that it is because she only wants contact with people she’s comfortable around, but I think I have a right to introduce my child to his grandmother sooner than a month. AIBU?
It’s causing me a great deal of sadness and stress at a time when I should be happy. I don’t really know what to do.

You are in an emotionally abusive relationship OP

Longtermuser · 11/01/2025 18:25

Fucking hell she gave birth 8 DAYS ago! She can have or not have whoever the fuck she wants in her home right now.
Behaviour has consequences and your mum is learning the hard way.

Not sure why people keep mentioning the importance of relationships with grandparents. This is an 8 day old baby, there's plenty time for that. And not all grandparents are necessarily a good presence, that is not a given.

jannier · 11/01/2025 18:26

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Why has every other tom dick and harry been allowed if the concerns are what you say? Unless mil has been really nasty it's cruel.

TunipTheVegimal24 · 11/01/2025 18:28

Your poor mum 😢 Unless your partner is exclusively breast feeding, you should take the baby to see your mum, if your partner isn't feeling up to it.

jannier · 11/01/2025 18:29

Joelm1066 · 11/01/2025 17:59

thanks for your replies. Quite a lot to think about. I think it might be helpful for me to give a bit of background to why my partner and my mum don’t get along. The rather difficult aspect of this is that they used to be friend (not tier 1 friends, but good friends) before we got together. My partner stayed at my mums house as a lodger when she was in her mid twenties. I was only 19 at the time and there was nothing romantic between us. We reconnected about 10 years later and started seeing each other. We made the, in retrospect, unwise decision to move in with my mum as lodgers. From the begging my mum wanted to rekindle an old friendship whereas my partner wanted to be boundaried I.e, not hang out with her very much or do things together. I think my mum was slightly upset by this and their friendship deteriorated.

as regards my mom’s tactlessness, she can be slightly condescending in the way that she gives advice, she doesn’t mean to be but she’s always, she’s trying to help, but I can understand that it’s annoying. She’s also quite slightly judgmental of small aspects of peoples lives, ie a bit of an eco puritan who will comment if someone’s taken too many flights abroad in a given year. FYI she is not a drunk or a racist.

the problem as I see it is that when my partner is confronted with someone she doesn’t like she finds it very difficult to have a relationship of detached civility. She responds in quite extreme ways and tries to block them from her life completely and my mum has been quite hurt and confused by this.

But she liked her enough when she lived as her lodger now she doesn't need your mum she can't stand her????

BIossomtoes · 11/01/2025 18:30

jannier · 11/01/2025 18:29

But she liked her enough when she lived as her lodger now she doesn't need your mum she can't stand her????

This.

outerspacepotato · 11/01/2025 18:38

The partner is 8 DAYS postpartum.

She can see or not see whom she wants.

Right now, her wishes are the priority. She is recovering from birth and working on bonding with her child while in pain and likely exhausted.

And anyone who suggests separating a new mom and baby is not thinking about what's best for either. That can be trauma.

Maybe Joe should think about what his partner needs from him instead of what his momma wants.

jacks11 · 11/01/2025 18:41

TankFlyBossWalkJamNittyGrittyIAmFromAMidSizeCity · 11/01/2025 17:22

I also have several children and put others first after I had given birth, to my own detriment.

The person giving birth and recovering should take priority over others demands in the few weeks after birth.

It definitely sounds like there are major transgressions in this instance being played down by the op though.

i think one short visit by your partners mother is unlikely to cause significant, lasting detriment. I think making your partner sad, upset and distressed by refusing to allow their mother to meet their child, when this is something that is important to them, could to cause lasting damage to your relationship. Which I think may also be to a new mother’s detriment. No, MIL can’t stay for a few days- but she probably can pop round for a short visit with the understanding of time limitation/giving back the baby if asked etc. I doubt 30 minutes or an hour is going to damage her hugely. Unless, as I say, MIL is truly awful/abusive etc.

And it’s impossible to say whether OP’s mother has done something terrible, mildly annoying, or nothing particularly consequential. I have experience of both ends of this spectrum with 2 family members- both don’t like and avoid their MIL, and would tell a similar story re the reasons but the situations really aren’t the same. So, I don’t know whether I’d be 100% sure that the MIL is definitely awful and the OP’s partner totally in the right, based on what op has said and their partner’s stance on her MIL. Could be either, or somewhere in the middle.

In my examples- one case the MIL is a complete nightmare- cutting, sarcastic, belittles others around her. She is really unpleasant. We’ve all seen it and quite a few been on the receiving end of it- even those she barely knows (the MIL is not a direct relation of mine, but I have experienced her behaviour first hand). I totally understand why she keeps her MIL at (several) arms length. Her husband does recognise it, though I would say has in the past played it down a little. I think it’s better for the children that contact is minimal and always supervised.

The other situation really was a case of personality clash, neither party totally right or wrong, and a series of small issues (about 50/50 in terms of who did what) culminating in a more significant falling out where they were definitely both in the wrong (her MIL possibly slightly more so as she triggered it- though I think either of them could have been the catalyst, it just happened to be her on this occasion- but not malicious intent from either). They are quite different people, and I can see why the DIL in question might find her MIL a bit irritating/hard work and difficult to like- and vice-versa. But, MIL is not a bad person and does care about her family, though she can be quite stuck in her ways. She is quite close with her son. The DIL (my relative) is generally also a nice enough person, good fun, can be thoughtful/generous etc but can be quite certain of herself too. She is also quite reactive, has a tendency to take umbrage very easily, and is somewhat prone to holding grudges. Like many of us, she is also not very good at admitting fault/apologising. Her MIL has apologised for her part, but because she will accept total fault (and grovel/agree to certain things), DIL won’t budge- she won’t see MIL and tries very hard to limit her children’s contact with her (MIL is categorically not toxic/racist/bigotted or a safeguarding concern to children).

This is against her husbands wishes- I don’t mean just won’t visit MIL/allow her in her home- her husband has said that she will make it difficult for him to take them to visit his mum or attend family events without her- e.g. by planning other things if he mentions making plans, makes a fuss/tends to be quite huffy or passive aggressive if he insists on taking them anyway and will create sudden emergencies to try stop them going/result in coming back early. It makes life difficult for him, practically and emotionally, when it comes to his family. I know it has caused significant problems in their relationship, possibly terminally so (my DH is also her DH’s friend) as he feels hurt that she can’t recognise the impact on him, nor that she contributed to the situation with her own actions, and now will not compromise at all. She appears to be using her children to get back at her MIL. If you asked her, she’d tell you MIL was an insufferable, interfering horror who delights in upsetting others and can’t see that she is unreasonable. She genuinely does not seem to recognise that she’s partly responsible for the situation and feels totally justified in her stance. She would also say her DH “doesn’t see it” and makes excuses for his mother. I imagine he probably has, on occasion, but his mother has not been universally in the wrong and he has also done the same with regards to his wife to his mother and wider family and friends…… I think they both did and said some things which they shouldn’t have and ought to be able to find a way to co-exist to some degree.

All I’m saying is that new mums can still be wrong, be unkind/controlling etc- they can do things which have longer-term consequences upon their relationship and those with wider family members. And they are not the sole and final arbiter of everything to do with their baby. Distressing your partner over something like this (especially if it’s just make a point or to upset your MIL) is not ok.

Longtermuser · 11/01/2025 18:41

jannier · 11/01/2025 18:29

But she liked her enough when she lived as her lodger now she doesn't need your mum she can't stand her????

I mean she was a young woman lodging in an older woman's house. OP says they didn't have a 'tier 1 friendship ' so assuming she was just friendly with the woman she paid rent to. And unlikely OP's mum would have been so judgemental when she was just a lodger. Now she's 'family' seems the mil felt able to express her opinions loudly. Besides, people are allowed to change their minds about friends, sometimes they let you down and you are free to lose them.

commonsense61 · 11/01/2025 18:42

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allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 11/01/2025 18:42

@Joelm1066 it is NOT the duty of the mother to facilitate the relationship between children and grandparents!!!! so this new mum does not have to rollover and allow ops mum to walk in and insult her. op needs to stand up for his partner.

Bryonyberries · 11/01/2025 18:47

Can you arrange a short visit for your mum when your wife is upstairs resting. Just ten mins or so as a compromise?

I remember being convinced my MIL would let go of the pram and he'd get run over when she took him for a short stroll when he was a couple days old. Obviously i knew logically the odds were pretty zero but it didn't stop me hormones freaking out. I had a good relationship with her too! And yes I let her but it did make me very uneasy. They had a wonderful bond together when my son was little and before she passed away.

Stirabout · 11/01/2025 18:51

If her family have seen your child so should yours. If the mum and baby are up to visits it’s simply wrong to pick and chose. She’s either well enough or she isn’t. It seems she is so
Its your child too.

This atmosphere will drive a wedge between you if you both don’t get it sorted in the long term

Diarygirlqueen · 11/01/2025 18:53

It would break my heart if my children didn't let me see my newborn grandchild, especially if other ones were allowed to see the child. How bad can the mother have been, if the partner lived with her, not once, but on two different occasions. It seems as if the issues arose after she got with the mother's child, so I would conclude there's some jealousy and boundary issues.

The amount of threads recently where mother-in-laws are bring cut off from family is scary. Obviously there is definitely some situations where this is necessary, but if you read most of them with an open mind, there is no need for such extreme reactions.
It's all so sad.

WonderingAboutThus · 11/01/2025 18:59

It's your child too, and you have equal decision rights on this kind of stuff. New mum doesn't have to come along (or come downstairs) if she doesn't want to see MIL at this stage in her recovery.

I would absolutely force the matter now because your partner is trying to set a terrible precedent for the years to come.

elozabet · 11/01/2025 19:05

WonderingAboutThus · 11/01/2025 18:59

It's your child too, and you have equal decision rights on this kind of stuff. New mum doesn't have to come along (or come downstairs) if she doesn't want to see MIL at this stage in her recovery.

I would absolutely force the matter now because your partner is trying to set a terrible precedent for the years to come.

I agree. It is your baby too. Her family have had a chance to meet your baby, so your family should get that chance too.

I think you are going to have to put your foot down on this issue. If she gets her way now, it will be more difficult in the long run to fix it.