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That moment you realise you really do hate them

185 replies

Thetimeisno · 05/01/2025 22:32

DM is having life saving operation followed by ongoing treatment starting next week. Had a family gathering today as she was too ill over Xmas. DH knew at Xmas it was going to either be today or yesterday based on greater availability. States he didn't know it was definitely happening so booked to play golf and go for drinks afterwards.

Asks me yesterday do I want him to come. I say yes but what about golf. He says he can get out of it. I ask later is he coming and he says no he really should play golf 🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡

Also said I may need to make trips back home a day a week to help out DM and his response is 'well it depends what day it is' - we have 2 primary school age children.

He barely works, just lazes around the house doing nothing. Will save you the expletives but he's such a lazy........

Think this really is it. I couldn't despise him more.

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WinkyTinky · 06/01/2025 10:51

Also OP, I meant to say, I too pay for most things. I have shelled out for roof repairs, toilet repair (which he broke with his impatient forceful flushing) and new tyres in the past two weeks, on top of hundreds spent on the kids birthdays and Christmas. I even decided this year to show him exactly what presents I'd got for the kids prior to wrapping them so he could see what I'd spent, and he makes no attempt to offer a contribution. Therefore I will be no worse off if he's not here as he spends pretty much all of his money on himself and his hobbies anyway. It is unacceptable, and I need to stop accepting it. Get angry OP, it will give you focus. I have lost the energy for anger and find myself just drifting. Do not do that!

FlappingMadly · 06/01/2025 11:16

They have two parents. I just spent two weeks looking after my mum. You both need to talk about sharing the load and expectations.

BellesAndGraces · 06/01/2025 11:19

He's so difficult now I think he's going to be so much worse when/if we do split.

Short term pain for long term gain.

lifeonmars100 · 06/01/2025 11:32

I am sorry about your mum, that must be so worrying and then to have a husband who by all the evidence is a total drain on your energy and is no support. If you imagine life without him how does it feel? Sounds as if he would be one less thing to have to deal with. In my experience it is better to be alone and know exactly what we have to do rather than having one's expectations constantly raised and then dashed.

icelolly12 · 06/01/2025 11:35

So a round of golf is more important than your DM? I'd hate him too.

Lilactimes · 06/01/2025 12:08

On my first wedding anniversary my mum had very serious surgery where she could have died. Not only did my husband not come with me to be around and help me support my dad - he didn’t phone or wasn’t contactable all day. Eventually rang me at 11pm after I’d leant on friends for support in the day.
when I spoke to him about it once I was back home he kinda eye rolled apologised like a teenager.
When I left him 4 years later and he was sobbing with hurt on the floor, I told him that my feelings of love for him began to disappear the night of my mum’s op. Then he began to apologise in such a heart felt way.
I said “this is what I wanted back then - genuine remorse for not understanding how awful it was not to have you to support me that day when my mum nearly died”.
Needless to say I left anyway and have never looked back.
good luck OP with the decisions you need to make - feel your anger x

Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:15

thepariscrimefiles · 06/01/2025 08:06

He sounds as shit an employee as he does a husband. How on earth does he get away with working 2-3 hours a day in a full-time job?

I have absolutely no idea how they have not cottoned onto this. I have heard how difficult he can be at work - refusing to do things his colleagues are asking him to do. So all I can think it they are scared of him kicking off if they did get rid of him? He of course says he's so good at his job that's why he does it so quick and if course why they could never get rid of him!

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:16

Dweetfidilove · 06/01/2025 09:40

I take it you don't pay for his holidays, so he just doesn't go, right?

I do :-(. Because I want us to have a family holiday. But he just ruins them anyway. I do not want to have holidays with him anymore.

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:17

godmum56 · 06/01/2025 09:41

why have you had children with this man?

Well he wasn't like this at the beginning!!! I thought I'd won the lottery in the beginning

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:18

ShalalaIa · 06/01/2025 09:42

Stop paying for him to 'Fiddle while Rome burns'
Why isn't he working? Let him do the children stuff if he's there and you go to your mother.

Cos hes so good at his job he can finish it in a couple of hours apparently!

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barbarahunter · 06/01/2025 12:18

I really feel for you, OP and I understand your fear of him kicking off/threatening etc but honestly why carry on like this? He is nasty and that is not going to change. As others have said, yes it's horrible going through separation/divorce but it is like walking on air once you're free of him.

ThighsYouCantControl · 06/01/2025 12:20

Once the hatred and resentment sets in there’s no going back in my experience. Best to get rid asap.

Pussycat22 · 06/01/2025 12:20

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 06/01/2025 08:39

So what? He doesn't care about you or his kids, why are you worrying about him?

Probably from the pov from another poster ,he will probably become even more vile and parasitic because his host wants to get rid of him. He'll probably make all sorts of threats to get his own way. Then the OP will really see what he is capable of.

HardenYourHeart · 06/01/2025 12:20

Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 08:02

He either says they're too expensive so not to buy/pay for what ever it is. Sometimes he says he'll give me half but never does. Says I spend too much and have bought too much etc. Lots of excuses.

But apparently he does have enough money for golf.

Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:23

RockOrAHardplace · 06/01/2025 09:52

Does he get involved with childcare/housework given he only works 2-3hrs a day? Do you and the kids splurge on his for Birthdays/Christmas - if so stop it.

You marry and have kids to be a partnership, to share the highs and lows together. You sacrifice your very expensive golf days to provide holidays etc for your kids, creating happy memories with each other. To be blunt you have allowed him to NOT do these things...why?

Love and hate are very much akin and if you really don't have any love for him, then you need to walk away because he doesn't sound like he is showing up for his family and certainly not supporting you at this difficult time.

If you still have some feelings for him, because I know from personal experience that it is possible to love someone but hate the way they now treat you, then you need to sit him down, tell him how your are feeling, tell him he needs to step up NOW and that includes financially. Set boundaries and if he refuses to or reneges on them, that he will be on his way out. Make it quite clear where your feelings are.

Regardless, start making plans for the future as a single parent. It sounds tough but you will be in control, you can plan your own destiny and there maybe a life with love ahead as opposed to living with someone you hate. Do not bring your kids up in that atmosphere.

No he has me time for the rest of the day as he needs alot of me time he says!

He acts like a moody teenager in the very rare occasion he empties the dishwasher etc. If I ask him to do something his most common response is he has stuff he wants to do e.g. go to the shops (for himself) or have more me time.

I don't think I do have any love let for him. I can stand him. He has treated me with so much disrespect.

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:24

Sazzerss · 06/01/2025 09:56

He is financially abusing you and controlling you.
Talk to Women's aid and get advice.
You are not wrong, he is scum.

I am in therapy and go to a dv support group so working on myself so I can get out.

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:26

SpringleDingle · 06/01/2025 09:58

Honestly getting divorced is easier than you'd imagine. Yes it's an upheaval, yes the kids will be a bit upset.. Write off 2025 and just get it done. Honestly it is SO SO SO much better on the other side. Take it from a divorced mum. I give thanks at least once a week that he is no longer my issue and it's been 8 years :)

Thank you your post gives me hope. Do you have to deal with him my much? He's so difficult at the moment I can imagine he's only going to get worse if we split 😭

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Hotflushesandchilblains · 06/01/2025 12:30

Wishing you luck, OP. Sounds like, however difficult he may be during the divorce and after, you will be better off. And if he is that lazy, he may find giving you a hard time too much effort. All the best to you.

Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:31

WinkyTinky · 06/01/2025 10:44

There have been many occasions, and stupidly I have just let them all go and got on with life. I think I have become desensitised to things he has done, and almost ignore it now as I am so used to his behaviour. Maybe the breaking point was when our son was sick from an allergic reaction and I was on the phone to 111 to see if I should take him to hospital, and dh still chose to go on his night out (one of very very many, not a special occasion or anything) leaving me to have to sort out someone to look after our youngest while I took eldest to A&E. When he came home to find me and eldest not there, and my brother with youngest, he was mystified as to what was going on. He cannot see further than his own nose. I cannot continue to do this, and am taking strength from those saying divorce is hard but the freedom afterwards is worth every second. Good luck OP, you can do it, and you MUST do it. Best wishes to your mum.

I'm so sorry this happened. I have had similar happen too. 'oh do you have to take him to the emergency doctors today I was planning to go to the pub at that time'. Wtaf. Yes I have gone total grey rock but it's making me loose myself. Im now in therapy which I think will be my rock over the next few months. It's just all about them isn't it. It's so sad they have no capacity to care for others.

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:33

VenusClapTrap · 06/01/2025 10:45

It was when my mum was dying that I realised what a selfish idiot my then partner was. He just couldn’t deal with my focus being on someone else. Everyone said “Don’t make big life changes right now”, but I knew it was the end of the road for that relationship, and it was actually a relief, even though things limped on for a while until I had the headspace to actually deal with it.

I hope your mum’s op goes well. Focus on her, but promise yourself you’ll be freeing yourself from this crap man as soon as you can.

Thank you. So sorry to hear about your mum. I keep thinking this is what will happen to me too. The empathy I've had from other people, including strangers on here is leaps and bounds above anything he has done/said to me.

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:35

WinkyTinky · 06/01/2025 10:51

Also OP, I meant to say, I too pay for most things. I have shelled out for roof repairs, toilet repair (which he broke with his impatient forceful flushing) and new tyres in the past two weeks, on top of hundreds spent on the kids birthdays and Christmas. I even decided this year to show him exactly what presents I'd got for the kids prior to wrapping them so he could see what I'd spent, and he makes no attempt to offer a contribution. Therefore I will be no worse off if he's not here as he spends pretty much all of his money on himself and his hobbies anyway. It is unacceptable, and I need to stop accepting it. Get angry OP, it will give you focus. I have lost the energy for anger and find myself just drifting. Do not do that!

Oh yes ditto. When the kids were opening their presents he was like 'that must have been expensive'....I asked him to buy one thing (that he knows about) for £30. The amount of moaning I've had over that £30 he spent!

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:35

FlappingMadly · 06/01/2025 11:16

They have two parents. I just spent two weeks looking after my mum. You both need to talk about sharing the load and expectations.

He says he does enough when I've asked him to do more.

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:37

BellesAndGraces · 06/01/2025 11:19

He's so difficult now I think he's going to be so much worse when/if we do split.

Short term pain for long term gain.

But I mean the logistics of drop offs, pick ups, and if plans change. Things where we both have to go - parents evening, school events etc. He won't take them to after school clubs so will they miss out on those if they're at his.

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:38

icelolly12 · 06/01/2025 11:35

So a round of golf is more important than your DM? I'd hate him too.

Yup! And drinks don't forget the drinks! 😭

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Thetimeisno · 06/01/2025 12:40

Lilactimes · 06/01/2025 12:08

On my first wedding anniversary my mum had very serious surgery where she could have died. Not only did my husband not come with me to be around and help me support my dad - he didn’t phone or wasn’t contactable all day. Eventually rang me at 11pm after I’d leant on friends for support in the day.
when I spoke to him about it once I was back home he kinda eye rolled apologised like a teenager.
When I left him 4 years later and he was sobbing with hurt on the floor, I told him that my feelings of love for him began to disappear the night of my mum’s op. Then he began to apologise in such a heart felt way.
I said “this is what I wanted back then - genuine remorse for not understanding how awful it was not to have you to support me that day when my mum nearly died”.
Needless to say I left anyway and have never looked back.
good luck OP with the decisions you need to make - feel your anger x

Thank you and so sorry. That's so heartless of him. They really know how to pull the heart strings when they need to don't they. But think such men are incapable of changing. A good man knows his wife needs his support at such time.

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