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What are people doing to their faces?!

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Mania89 · 03/01/2025 23:27

I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

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SnowKidding · 10/01/2025 19:39

Maggiethecat · 10/01/2025 09:48

The government is very much aware of the problems and cases such as this and yet has been slow to enact regulation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20n3xlye6mo

That don’t look pretty. Why would anyone in their right mind risk having their face botched up like this. 😧

CyclingAddict · 11/01/2025 07:47

Earlier on in this thread someone said it wouldn’t be expected that another person would judge us if we didn’t have treatments…a friend of mine suggested Botox would be really beneficial for me 😳 I wasn’t too offended but, at the same time, I didn’t say “What can you do to reduce your fat arse? Maybe diet/exercise/weight loss injection?”

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 11/01/2025 11:08

CyclingAddict · 11/01/2025 07:47

Earlier on in this thread someone said it wouldn’t be expected that another person would judge us if we didn’t have treatments…a friend of mine suggested Botox would be really beneficial for me 😳 I wasn’t too offended but, at the same time, I didn’t say “What can you do to reduce your fat arse? Maybe diet/exercise/weight loss injection?”

Too funny.

Pupinskipops · 11/01/2025 18:30

Mania89 · 04/01/2025 09:13

This is exactly my feeling too. It’s also like a form of abuse - they cannot be doing it for themselves and I fear it’s to impress men who value very little!

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... or, more likely probably, other women. Women who do this to themselves rarely do it in isolation, I think - they tend to hang around with other women who do it to themselves too.

Pupinskipops · 11/01/2025 18:41

Mania89 · 04/01/2025 12:28

This attitude towards woman is awful - filler or no filler! When did it become the norm to talk about women’s bodies so openly and in a derogatory manner?

I really feel like I should be agreeing with you, but at the same time I find myself thinking those thoughts too. The bodies being referred to are not women's bodies at all. They're exaggerated, often grotesque imaginings of what the women who do this feel their bodies should look like, brought to life by chemicals and surgery. They're not women's real bodies.

I would never use that sort of language to or about any individuals because it's plain rude and I'm not interested in making people feel bad about themselves. But do I think the same thoughts? If I'm honest, yes, I do.

MischkasMum · 11/01/2025 18:43

Mania89 · 03/01/2025 23:27

I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

Absolutely agree. Seeing lovely women with duck-bill lips and faces that look like they've been in a wind machine gives me the heebies. Some look as if they should be in porn movies. What happens when they get older, that's what I'd like to know?

Stolengoat · 11/01/2025 19:37

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:42

Speak out? Lol. Speak out against people looking how they want to look?

And op is clearly upset. Enough so to make an entire thread. What other words would you prefer? Perturbed? Distressed? Hysterical? Traumatized? All rather hyperbolic in comparison but not necessarily inaccurate either.

What other women look like, wether that be filler, hair dye, peircings, tattoos, fat, thin, boob job, short skirts or other clothing choices, doesn't matter a dot to me. So I'm not starting threads about it, desperately trying to find other judgey mares to snort at other women with. I don't feel the need to have my opinions validated by others. I don't need to put other women down. I don't need to busy body in something which, frankly, is optional. Nobody is expecting you to get filler or Botox if you don't like it. I don't go around saying 'urgh, look at that woman with wissened little prune lips! She desperately needs some filler to look normal!' because it would be a twatty thing to say. The same can't be said for those who are sanctimonious about women doing anything to xosmetically alter their appearance, they can't resist sticking their opinion in when it has no effect on their life and no effect on them. These thoughts about others are often also rooted in deep misogyny, these threads reinforce the notion that women's bodies are open to critique and criticism. Posters will often express disgust and say how terrible it looks but then go on to suggest that it makes them or other women feel inadequate. These two statements are contradictory, which means neither argument against is is a particularly good one. Often these type of argument only masquerade as concern, when in reality they come from a place of hatred for other women for simply existing and making choices that do not have any bearing on your life, but do not affirm or align with your own set of beliefs. This is prejudice.

You seem to be the only one who is upset. By your own reckoning, what op does or thinks is non of your business.

TheWaryPoster · 11/01/2025 19:46

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:42

Speak out? Lol. Speak out against people looking how they want to look?

And op is clearly upset. Enough so to make an entire thread. What other words would you prefer? Perturbed? Distressed? Hysterical? Traumatized? All rather hyperbolic in comparison but not necessarily inaccurate either.

What other women look like, wether that be filler, hair dye, peircings, tattoos, fat, thin, boob job, short skirts or other clothing choices, doesn't matter a dot to me. So I'm not starting threads about it, desperately trying to find other judgey mares to snort at other women with. I don't feel the need to have my opinions validated by others. I don't need to put other women down. I don't need to busy body in something which, frankly, is optional. Nobody is expecting you to get filler or Botox if you don't like it. I don't go around saying 'urgh, look at that woman with wissened little prune lips! She desperately needs some filler to look normal!' because it would be a twatty thing to say. The same can't be said for those who are sanctimonious about women doing anything to xosmetically alter their appearance, they can't resist sticking their opinion in when it has no effect on their life and no effect on them. These thoughts about others are often also rooted in deep misogyny, these threads reinforce the notion that women's bodies are open to critique and criticism. Posters will often express disgust and say how terrible it looks but then go on to suggest that it makes them or other women feel inadequate. These two statements are contradictory, which means neither argument against is is a particularly good one. Often these type of argument only masquerade as concern, when in reality they come from a place of hatred for other women for simply existing and making choices that do not have any bearing on your life, but do not affirm or align with your own set of beliefs. This is prejudice.

I think the point trying to be made is that originally these tweakments were for the ladies who had started aging, wrinkles, lines appearing around the lips etc but it seems that ladies who are too young to be having these aging issues are having these adjustments done, so instead of, let's say, improving what had become not so fresh for older women has now become a norm for many young women that individuality has been totally lost and it's like looking at a row of boxed Barbie's in a toy shop. Trends used to be applied and there was still individuality but now they all look cloned. Think that is the point, no criticizing of the women that choose this look but comment about a societal cloning regime that many don't seem to notice.

Animatic · 11/01/2025 21:34

MillyGoat · 04/01/2025 02:36

What do you do and how does the accumulation of these things add up over time? I’ve always wondered, do the fillers dissolve or just break down and move to leave small (but growing) deposits and where??

There were quite a few studies showing that certain % of fillers doesn't dissolve, stays on the face and travels around the body. If you look at faces of those who have been doing fillers a lot they tend to look bigger,puffier around jawline. That's the leftover fillers that congregate in those areas.

Chesterdrawswalla · 11/01/2025 21:45

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:05

Frankly, while you're entitled to an opinion, they are also entitled to an opinion. It's their bodies. Their choice. They like it.

The only person who getting upset about it is you, and it isn't your business.

I think it’s absolutely the OPs business to comment on the impact on women of trying to achieve impossible body standards.

It’s also disingenuous to say that it’s about choice. There is an element of choice, but there’s far less choice than we think. A lot of the beauty industry is fuelled by advertising designed to make women feel ‘less than’ and inadequate.

Why should a beautiful woman ( which many of these girls are) spend thousands on facial surgery to look a certain way? None of them need this.

when I was young, plastic surgery was available, but it was for women who had huge noses, big ears, no breasts who wanted to look more ‘normal’

Marydoll5 · 11/01/2025 22:15

I am worried that there is no regulation of so called therapists giving fillers, botox in say a hairdressers. There are horror stories and pictures of when things go wrong.

The government need to stop dragging their heels and stop the back street procedures.

Personally I think it is really sad that young women do these things when their skin and lips are perfect. Hindsight is a great thing!

Fronkens · 11/01/2025 22:18

Frankly, while you're entitled to an opinion, she is also entitled to an opinion. It's her mind. Her choice. She does not like it.
The only person who getting upset about her opinion is you, and it isn't your business.

HiEarthlings · 11/01/2025 23:31

SocksAndTheCity · 04/01/2025 00:29

Wow, we've gone a full ten days since the last one of these threads was posted - that must be a record.

I haven't checked the whole site though, so I could easily have missed one or two Hmm

Edit: here it is, so people can save some time having to come up with new and inventive ways to slag off other women whose views and choices differ from their own and just use the copy and paste 👍

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5236985-why-do-people-get-massive-amounts-of-lip-filler?page=1

Edited

Wow, how dare people have other things to do than trawl through mumsnet to see if somwone else has posted a similar opinion/question/dilemma/whatever! You might have the time and the inclination to do so, others not so much...

NewHabits2025 · 12/01/2025 06:50

@Anotherparkingthread I think you have very much misunderstood the meaning of misogyny!

UrbaneProfane · 12/01/2025 07:59

People can do whatever they want but what I find disturbing is that everyone seems to want to have the same face now. Like all the celebrities with the Botox, cheek filler and plumped lips and sculpted little noses - they look beautiful but just generic, like a real life insta filter.

Women who had quirks now just look like each other and I think it’s a bit of a shame. Same with the skinny thing, women’s bodies are beautiful in all sizes - we don’t need to see everyone’s clavicle.

typicalmale01 · 12/01/2025 10:04

Articulately expressed tho’ I disagree with your view. As another said above, if women weren’t allowed to opine on other women’s choices there would be no feminism; it doesn’t make them misogynistic.

You suggest there’s a contradiction between complaining about those who get lip filler (or other cosmetic work which makes them look “unnatural”) and complaining that this in turn makes some other women feel inadequate, and that this undermines the argument of those making the complaints. It isn’t contradictory, as the proponents of this view also point out that anyone is wrong to feel inadequate because, drumroll… the filler generally looks horrible to most normal people who haven’t been hypnotised by this faddy sleb driven crap.

Congratulations and thanks on behalf of most men (who prefer natural looking women) to those women who call this out.

typicalmale01 · 12/01/2025 10:12

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:42

Speak out? Lol. Speak out against people looking how they want to look?

And op is clearly upset. Enough so to make an entire thread. What other words would you prefer? Perturbed? Distressed? Hysterical? Traumatized? All rather hyperbolic in comparison but not necessarily inaccurate either.

What other women look like, wether that be filler, hair dye, peircings, tattoos, fat, thin, boob job, short skirts or other clothing choices, doesn't matter a dot to me. So I'm not starting threads about it, desperately trying to find other judgey mares to snort at other women with. I don't feel the need to have my opinions validated by others. I don't need to put other women down. I don't need to busy body in something which, frankly, is optional. Nobody is expecting you to get filler or Botox if you don't like it. I don't go around saying 'urgh, look at that woman with wissened little prune lips! She desperately needs some filler to look normal!' because it would be a twatty thing to say. The same can't be said for those who are sanctimonious about women doing anything to xosmetically alter their appearance, they can't resist sticking their opinion in when it has no effect on their life and no effect on them. These thoughts about others are often also rooted in deep misogyny, these threads reinforce the notion that women's bodies are open to critique and criticism. Posters will often express disgust and say how terrible it looks but then go on to suggest that it makes them or other women feel inadequate. These two statements are contradictory, which means neither argument against is is a particularly good one. Often these type of argument only masquerade as concern, when in reality they come from a place of hatred for other women for simply existing and making choices that do not have any bearing on your life, but do not affirm or align with your own set of beliefs. This is prejudice.

Articulately expressed tho’ I disagree with your view. As another said above, if women weren’t allowed to opine on other women’s choices there would be no feminism; it doesn’t make them misogynistic.
You suggest there’s a contradiction between complaining about those who get lip filler (or other cosmetic work which makes them look “unnatural”) and complaining that this in turn makes some other women feel inadequate, and that this undermines the argument of those making the complaints. It isn’t contradictory, as the proponents of this view also point out that anyone is wrong to feel inadequate because, drumroll… the filler generally looks horrible to most normal people who haven’t been hypnotised by this faddy sleb driven crap.
Congratulations and thanks on behalf of most men (who prefer natural looking women) to those women who call this out.

Annanirvana · 12/01/2025 11:48

Anotherparkingthread · 04/01/2025 00:05

Frankly, while you're entitled to an opinion, they are also entitled to an opinion. It's their bodies. Their choice. They like it.

The only person who getting upset about it is you, and it isn't your business.

You're absolutely right. However with the NHS in the parlous state it's in, it becomes everyone's business when these people turn up at hospitals with complications.

DecayingRelic · 12/01/2025 13:01

they look ridiculous, the more they are mocked they might stop doing it😂

Olive123456 · 12/01/2025 13:36

Mania89 · 03/01/2025 23:27

I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

It's hardly surprising, it's not even just on places like Tictoc, it's on your TV. If you watch any reality dating type show,the females that haven't had lip fillers etc are the odd ones out

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 12/01/2025 14:09

It really is awful how some people are butchering themselves but ultimately it's their choice to do so.

NeelyOHara1 · 12/01/2025 18:32

Are women and girls being groomed to adopt excessive personal grooming regimes?

Nicecuppatea2025 · 12/01/2025 18:54

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 12/01/2025 14:09

It really is awful how some people are butchering themselves but ultimately it's their choice to do so.

Well using that argument you could say that it really is awful how many kids vape but it is their choice to do so. It really is awful that women stay in abusive relationships but it is their choice to do so. It really is awful how 1 billion people globally are obese but it’s their choice.

MarvellousMonsters · 12/01/2025 20:02

NeelyOHara1 · 12/01/2025 18:32

Are women and girls being groomed to adopt excessive personal grooming regimes?

Yes. 100%. Yes.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 15/01/2025 19:39

Nicecuppatea2025 · 12/01/2025 18:54

Well using that argument you could say that it really is awful how many kids vape but it is their choice to do so. It really is awful that women stay in abusive relationships but it is their choice to do so. It really is awful how 1 billion people globally are obese but it’s their choice.

It's not legal for children to vape so not a good comparison. Some disgusting adults buy vapes for children. Darwin award waiting to happen what with the lithium battery but, stupid is as stupid does.

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