What are people doing to their faces?!

[Mania89]

I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

Test it whichever way works for you

A nonsensical nonresponse. Get off the sauce.

Urgh 😆 you must have known you were the demographic I was referring to

Anyone else totally lost now?

Watched the film The Substance last night and although it was crazy in parts it was a reminder of the societal value of youthfulness/ looks, particularly for women, which is not restricted to the entertainment industry.

Maybe that's what was supposed to happen.

We are all so confused that we don't know how to reply so they think they have shut us up.

No one is criticising women so you don't have to advocate for them on this thread. No one is 'slating' them. Almost all posts criticise the systems that put pressure on women to undergo sometimes dangerous procedures to conform to some imposed standard of beauty. That's the way to advocate for women.

I will do as I please. Thanks for your input.

While we look over things here, we're hopping on to post a reminder to avoid personal attacks or anything else that breaks talk guidelines. Anything giving cause for concern, you can report it to us and we'll take a look and remember you can take a break from or hide the thread.

Me 😂 And this was a very interesting thread actually.
OP, for what it's worth, thank you for creating this thread. If it gets deleted because of that nonsensical and inconsequential silly to and fro, I'm glad I had the chance to read the preceding comments which were on point.

Glad I had the chance to read the thread too. People speak about the proliferation of these threads about cosmetic procedures but should bear in mind that people dip in and out of MN at various times and many may not have seen the previous ones.
I have noticed where I live the ‘uniform’ look that pps describe but hadn’t appreciated how widespread it was in RL and not just on SM.
It does concern me that large numbers of women may suffer significant harm by some of these practices and hope that minimally some regulation and licensing of practitioners will be put in place and enforced very soon.
This doesn’t address the pressures driving the practice but at least these may become safer.

The government is very much aware of the problems and cases such as this and yet has been slow to enact regulation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20n3xlye6mo

@Undrugged

‘knuckle-dragging gibbons’ 😂

Harsh on gibbons but it made me laugh..

'... there will be "more deaths and more disfigurement" unless the government "gets on with" enacting the legislation he helped to draw up alongside others across the industry.
"If the government said 'we want this in in six months', it could be done," he said.
The JCCP said it had dealt with an "explosion in complaints" from local councils about poor practice in the sector. In 2023, it was aware of complaints from two local authorities, compared with 65 by the end of 2024.
A Department of Health and Social Care spokesperson did not comment on Dr Charlson's criticisms, but said it was "unacceptable" that people's lives were at risk from "inadequately trained operators in the cosmetic sector", and it was "urgently exploring options for further regulation".
They urged anyone considering cosmetic procedures to find a reputable, insured and qualified practitioner.'

From the BBC article.

I had red hair and got tormented for that. Now they are falling over themselves to have it! It's trendsetting and many people like to be trendy and rightly so. Unfortunately we have moved into the arena of peoples insecurities being used by manipulative companies etc for profit.

Some probably have a fiscal interest.

@Maggiethecat ‘People speak about the proliferation of these threads about cosmetic procedures but should bear in mind that people dip in and out of MN at various times and many may not have seen the previous ones.’

Absolutely right. I haven’t seen previous threads, and have only just seen this one. I look at MN more or less depending on my work / life demands.

I haven’t read past page 1 (and the last page, I often read the last page first) of this thread yet, but will do.

I think Botox is ok for younger ones, it’s used as a preventative measure. Fair enough. I use it because I’m old(er) and wrinkly through too much sun and fun in days of yore. They use Botox in medical procedures too - if it’s safe enough for that one can assume it’s safe enough for aesthetic reasons.

It’s the proliferation of fillers and lip injections that are verging on dangerous. As per PP.

Do people not realise that plastic surgeons have years of training for their craft yet people are willing go to clinics where barely trained people are let invasively loose on their faces and bodies.

Yes agreed. People don’t realise they should be having these procedure with medical docs (who often do it as a side income).

I know someone who says her dentist husband does a lot of aesthetic procedures unrelated to teeth.

That poor woman, Maggiethecat.

I think that what must happen in some cases is that women see these ideas of perfect and adopt them as something that they too must do. I've seen photos of women who've had work done (well) - and I can imagine it's very tempting to make a leap that it's not really a surgical procedure therefore anyone can do it - and so cheaper and highly dangerous options are chosen with very poor results and possibly permanent damage.

Nobody should be doing this work when they haven't been trained to do it - and the sooner this is regulated, the better for all women.

I know someone who says her dentist husband does a lot of aesthetic procedures unrelated to teeth.

Dentists are who I would go for aesthetics as they learn about the face structure.

Interestingly a lot of dentists trained and provided facial aesthetics but have started to back off from the procedures. I think they are reluctant to do use excessive quantities of filler or do the controversial lip lift with Botox.

The lip lift paralyses the muscle at the corner of the lip and combined with filler bulks up the upper lip. Unfortunately if also prevents an adequate oral seal so patients can no longer suck through a straw ( and maybe struggle to suck anything🤣).

Since our job does have a responsibility to do no harm, and interfering with function skates close to this, I suspect many are uncomfortable with this.

Additionally we see the work of lots of different aestheticians. The good, the bad and the grotesque. Patients who have been having the procedures for years are the most worrying, even with a good practitioner the results are becoming less reliable.
Like doctors the libellous nature of patients is ultimately what stops us carrying out these procedures. And for the majority moral and ethical conscience.

Since many won’t overfill a lip or paradise every muscle in domes face I suspect less patients use dentists and doctors, apart from those who prefer the subtle outcome.