What are people doing to their faces?!

[Mania89]

I am mid 30s. Colour my hair, wear makeup, thread my eyebrows etc so not completely natural but my goodness what are people doing to their faces?! Young women who are beautiful now have so much injected into their faces that they cannot move them at all. I was looking back at photos in my mid 20s and was wondering why on earth did I worry about my looks at all. Hindsight is wonderful! And I am despairing that girls younger than this have already started to inject Botox and fillers. The world is going mad and don’t even get me started on weight loss injections for those who are not clinically obese! I have two daughters and really feel so worried for them up.

My personal trainer has lip filler done. When it's just been put in I can't understand what she says very well - and not until it settles down.

She is the most beautiful young woman and I feel sad for her and every other woman 'in scope' that this 'beautification' is impressed on them as normal and everyday.

A another misinterpretation. I won’t slate women online. That’s all. Everyone wants to challenge it. I still won’t.

I think you have the issues. I won’t change my stance. I don’t know why you want to play ping pong and try to put it on me 😆😆 my opinion is on me. I accept that I won’t slag off women. You don’t like it. I don’t care.

We get it. You have posted over 20 messages. So there is no need to stay on the thread.

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We get that you think it's wrong to discuss important issues because you think it's being nasty. You don't want to join in but still keep coming back to the thread instead of ignoring it.

This is what worries me.

Me too because if there is enough pressure to assert that this is normal, to have all of these procedures is desirable (with the undertone that you are not desirable if you don't), it's a poisonous message to give to young women.

I can remember being teased in school about my lips 'being too big'. I didn't think they were but the comments were relentless. I took to trying to fold them inwards and not talk too much. I don't know what I would have done had there been a viable and available 'correction' for a school girl? There wasn't so I stuck with them and now they seem mainstream indeed. The pendulum swings, back and forth...

I worry very much that young women's (in particular) 'norms' are being formed and set through the lens of social media; ill-informed and predatory. It's a very hard thing to stand opposed to what your peers are doing; very difficult indeed if you want to belong.

Just read this thread before I nip out for my Botox appointment 😁👍🏻👍🏻

Sorry to have to say this but you simply don't get it do you? 🙄
Why is it so difficult for you to understand that it's not 'women' or 'woman' per se that are being, as you put it, 'bashed', debated and/or critisized here, it's the system, often male prejudices and the relentless influence of TV celebrities and especially from social media which all vigorously promotes the pre perceived perception of what a 'body' should look like to be acceptable and desired, for most people this will be a 'look' which is probably unattainable without some cosmetic procedure/s or at least expensive but fairly benign products and/or services.😡.
The pressures and influence directed at young people, mostly females, these days from an early age, to succumb to this 'ideal' are what's questionable and THAT is the issue here because without this there would be a lot less self obsession, insecurity, body 'dismorphia', anorexia and the mentally disabling general dissatisfaction that many young girls and boys feel about themselves, often to the point of self harm and sometimes even worse...😥😱

Most women have always been, at least a bit, insecure about their looks. The difference now is the extremes you can access and the ease with which you can access them.

I presume that you have seen that 92% of posters do not think that the OP is being unreasonable? 🤔
Sadly what is truly 'dumb' is assuming the role of a 'woman defending women' and then citing that to debate and comment alternatively from the point of view of 'feminist movements' and subjectivity is way beyond that!!
Could you not at least try to see things from a different perspective as your constant denials and repetitive posts do indicate that you are not actually bothering to read many of the very good post being put up as you continue to wrongly judge the thoughts, views and opinions of the 92% citing that the OP is NOT being unreasonable?🙄

Respectfully, you slated me. You called me dumb for wanting to discuss this, and a few other choice statements. I mean no big deal, I’ve been called worse, but just to point it out.

People keep on tagging me 😆😆 typical Mumsnet style of not liking an opposition.

Im obviously in the 8%. Maths

im also editing to add….. my repetitive message of I don’t support extreme fillers etc but I strongly disagree with the comments from women about women that are insulting. No one seems to get that’s my point no matter how many times I say it.

I called the quotes toward me dumb as they were contradictory given my stance here supporting women’s freedom to choose what they do.
Im sorry if you misunderstood and took it otherwise.

I don’t bitch about other women. I don’t mock their lips etc. But I really worry about social pressures on young women. And I don’t want my 19y girl to feel like she is not good enough and that she has to endure painful procedures to make these changes to her face. Thankfully she is immune now, but who knows about the future.

I am grateful to any one who challenges this development in aesthetics in modern society. That’s all.

Do you have any thoughts on this and the implication for women in society? Apologies if I have missed it.

I think you are the one that is nuts.

I agree. We’re not criticising women. We’re criticising the social construct that makes women think we need to do these things - I would love not to feel this pressure myself. It’s actually part of this construct that drives us to not have these conversations - to be complicit in it. It’s powerful stuff and clearly only getting more so.

Yes I have many thoughts on it, thanks for asking

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Ok so you don’t want to discuss the main issue here raised by the OP or have an interesting debate; you just want to ignore the topic and keep crowing, ‘I DON’T SLATE OTHER WOMEN’. I shall leave you to it.

But haven't you posted maybe 50 times 'bashing' and 'slating women', as you term it, right here, on a public forum - for daring to discuss this topic?