To want Elon Musk to stay the fuck out of U.K. politics?

[Birdscratch]

And German politics and just focus on the President he’s already paid for and turning X into a toxic wasteland.

Which doesn't address the failings. I wouldn't wipe my arse on that version of events.

Who do you think can be trusted given that every government for the last 15 years has, according to you, been equally ineffective?

So who do you trust to conduct a 'proper' investigation?

This.

I think EM tends to spout off when he shouldn't, but Twitter was doing a heck of a lot of suppressing particular voices before he bought it. Are there seriously people who thought it wasn't doing that?

He wasn’t found guilty, he pleaded guilty.

Which must have pissed off all his followers who crowdfunded for him to fight the charges. I wonder what happened to that money.

According to the prison he is also not in solitary confinement. As he is a proven liar I am not convinced of his version of events here.

All this frothing is a distraction from the real problems. Homelessness. Poverty. Poor educational outcomes. People suffering from health problems that are treatable keeping them from working.

No amount of inquiries into grooming gangs - or any other alliterative bogeyman Musk and his disciples can dream up - will fix any of those things. With the painful irony being it's those things that greased the gangway for these groomers (that genius-grade alliteration for you all, by the way).

Which recommendations do you disagree with?

Well Labour meddled in the US election, so they are getting a taste of their own medicine.

Absolutely not.

Bloody foreigners.

On Twitter, Nazir Afzal. who first spoke about about this "memo" has clarified that this is the 2008 circular he was referring to:

webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukgwa/20130309160639/www.homeoffice.gov.uk/about-us/corporate-publications-strategy/home-office-circulars/circulars-2008/017-2008/

He has also specified that he was referring to Para 22: which states: “It is important always to take account of the child's reactions, and his or her perceptions, according to the child's age and understanding.”

Maybe focus on the corrupt police, squeamish council workers, negligent social workers, etc rather than childish writing techniques. They facilitated the abuse and denied children protection and justice. All in the name of multiculturalism and community cohesion, grotesque abuse was allowed to take place. The inconvenient truth is that certain segments of communities in the UK use the threat of calling someone racist to enable themselves to rape, sodomise, impregnate, traffick, assault and murder innocents.

Sorry, which fuckwit am I excusing and what am I excusing them from?

There is nowt wrong with me.

Maybe focus on the corrupt police, squeamish council workers, negligent social workers, etc rather than childish writing techniques.

None of which will address Homelessness. Poverty. Poor educational outcomes. People suffering from health problems that are treatable keeping them from working which is what the vast majority of people want.

Yes terrible things happened. Yes all those failings need to be addressed. But to be completely blunt that ain't gonna fix the UK. If I owned a car, I'd want the engine to work before the windows.

All resources on this planet are finite. So you really need to chose where you expend effort.

A longstanding tradition involving both Labour and Conservatives and goes both ways.

Facts are so terribly inconvenient, aren’t they?

Personally I would rather sort out child rape gangs which is solvable rather than tinker round the edges of those other things that Labour don’t have a car in hells chance of sorting because they refuse to acknowledge the fundamental causes.

I don't really know what political capital Musk could make out of it? He's going to be in charge of government efficiency not foreign affairs. Also, for me, he's not commenting on British politics. He's commenting on a British crime. We comment on American crimes all the time. Jess Philips, Kier Starmer, Sadiq Khan, all had things to say in condemnation of the racist murder of George Floyd. And this isn't the murder of one person, but thousands of young lives destroyed and innocence annihilated. Of course I'd expect people from other countries to comment.

I just don't understand the outrage, because big businessmen and political figures from overseas comment on British affairs all the time and always have. George Soros famously donated millions to Remain during the Brexit campaign, that to me was much more of a clear example of foreign interference, and yes some Brexiters were angry but not to this extent.

I understand what you are saying, that people can be angry about two things at once, but I maintain that many posters on this and related threads honestly seem angrier at Musk than they do at the rapists and the supine people in authority who didn't bother to try to stop it all happening. And I maintain that I do not understand how any human being could reserve more anger for Musk, who is commenting, than the rapists themselves, who perpetrated.

Also @randomchap apologies for the double posting but how do you know Musk doesn't genuinely care about these girls? The only way you could really know his feelings is if you had access to his innermost thoughts and feelings, like a close friend or family member, or if you were Elon Musk himself?

I would say: look at his record on highlighting the gangs grooming and raping children in his own country. I am happy to be proved wrong, but I fear all you would find is tumbleweed.

He hates Starmer and Labour and will do anything to smear them.

If Musk genuinly cared, he wouldn't be spreading misinformation

Exactly. He has accused people of being paedophiles in the past (called someone "pedo guy"), just because he wanted to get one over on them.

Eta: Amazingly he won the defamation case against him.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50695593

No drama.
Good you can see the funny side.
Not sure small businesses, the elderly and, now, rape survivors will be sharing in your joy...

Elon Musk has done a heroic thing in exposing this horrific scandal and bringing it to global attention, nobody can doubt that.

I think he crossed the line with what he said about Jess Phillips who I don't particularly like and has made ill advised comments of her own in the past. Calls herself a feminist but has done little to use her platform to protect these girls or get justice.