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Breastfeeding comment

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PregnantAtLast · 01/01/2025 07:42

I'm currently 2 months pregnant. Shared the good news with parents over Christmas, all lovely.

I told my mum I'd be breastfeeding when she asked. She said "Oh, will you be getting one of those shawls like your cousin had?"
(Basically to cover myself and the baby when I am feeding).

It made me feel really uncomfortable that she expects me to cover myself feeding my child in my own family home.

AIBU to push back on this and insist on feeding how I want to, or do I need to respect her wishes when I'm in her home?

OP posts:
ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:08

TheKeatingFive · 03/01/2025 11:10

There's something so misogynistic about it. As if a woman feeding her baby is acting like a diva. When in reality, feeding is such a selfless thing. Very sad to see.

Yep. I see “Don’t act like such a princess” as a bit like the #BeKind movement - just a really smug way of telling women (who just wanna go about their lives feeding their babies) to STFU and do as they’re told

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:10

Anotherandmore · 03/01/2025 11:24

As I suggested earlier I just think OP and her mum should talk about it with OP explaining that nothing is visible while she’s actually feeding. Latching on can be more tricky with a small baby who’s not used to it and it can be difficult to avoid having a breast out then sometimes. So I suggested she just tell her mum when she was about to initiate breastfeeding so mum could busy herself elsewhere for a few mins or look away. I think the whole process will become more normalised for them given time.

But even that small compromise (communication) didn’t satisfy some posters. OP’s mum must toe the line or else lose her daughter/grandchild. I can’t understand how they think that a better outcome?

You were lucky. Many people where I was were uncomfortable with breastfeeding in public. But a bit of consideration on both sides and it all worked out fine. I think it’s important to point out that, in the vast majority of cases, people weren’t offended as they are accused of being on here. What they were was embarrassed. It was a new situation for many of them. I hope my children see breastfeeding as utterly natural now and that that attitude will spread. But we’re not there yet.

I’ll ask you in the hope of an answer - should bottle feeding mums pander to the discomfort of the people around them who find it uncomfortable? Should they compromise rather than just be selfish and impose their choice on others? Surely a conversation about why they choose to bottle feed is necessary before they get to feed their baby?

Cosyblankets · 03/01/2025 12:10

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 11:51

Yes. Well done you got there in the end <pats head>

Be abuse, and here’s the important part…it’s not their body or their right to choose that

The same way if a woman wants an abortion that’s fine and valid but if someone wants to impose abortion on a woman they’re a weirdo / misogynist/ thicko / halfwit etc.

Seriously I can’t believe grown adults are grappling with the concept of “my body my choice” in 2025. Of course it’s different when someone else wants to control you as opposed to wanting to control yourself!

Patronising as well as rude
I'm out

Curtainqueen · 03/01/2025 12:10

I'm unsure why you describe your parents house as your family home as if you have some sort of entitlement over their house?

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:11

Anotherandmore · 03/01/2025 11:43

If you decide you can't ever bear a glimpse of breast, then you are saying a baby can't be fed in your vicinity.

OP’s mum didn’t say that at all though. What she essentially said was ‘please be discreet’. That makes OP uncomfortable (and I completely understand why) but don’t pretend her mum actually wants to alienate her. On the contrary, she seems very excited and, in general, helpful regarding the new baby. She’s embarrassed around even partial nudity though.

Communication is key here and I’m sure they can work it out.

But the mum has a ridiculous hang up that’s steeped in sexism and selfishness. Why should a baby pander to that? This is a grown woman. She needs to get a grip

Also we are all partially nude all the time.

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:12

Katypp · 03/01/2025 11:55

I'm out. Not announcing it, just to clarify in case I get accused of 'not coming back'.
The twisting of the original OP and the weaponising of bfeeding, complete with the namecalling and the utter lack of consideration for anyone else sickens me tbh.
I will leave you to your echo chamber. All the reasonable posters have left now, which kind of defeats your mission.

Edited

A shame you’re leaving before answering the bottle feeding question. Or the face covering question

I can’t understand why people aren’t answering it.

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:14

TheKeatingFive · 03/01/2025 12:03

I think people don't understand the pressure that 'be discreet' puts on new mums. Some people are going to find it harder to be discreet than others.

Poor latching, fast letdowns, large breasts, distracted babies - all lead to less discreet breastfeeding, but none of that is the mum's control. Breastfeeding shouldn't be only for those who can do it 'perfectly'.

I don't think it's too much to ask society to put the needs of a newborn baby above their own and just quietly deal with whatever discomfort they feel seeing women's breasts being used for their original purpose.

👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

I do wonder how these people who don’t want to see their own child’s chest skin cope with the fact they pushed that naked child out their vagina

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:15

Cosyblankets · 03/01/2025 12:10

Patronising as well as rude
I'm out

Feeling rather silly are we?

A stupid statement deserves a stupid response.

Errors · 03/01/2025 12:18

If she hasn’t had any experience with breastfeeding she may well not understand that it’s perfectly possible and simple (once you get the hang of it) to feed discreetly without one of those ridiculous feeding shawls. Once they have realised that they can be in the same room as you feeding your baby without getting an eyeful they will probably no longer have a problem with it

Anotherandmore · 03/01/2025 12:26

TheKeatingFive · 03/01/2025 12:03

I think people don't understand the pressure that 'be discreet' puts on new mums. Some people are going to find it harder to be discreet than others.

Poor latching, fast letdowns, large breasts, distracted babies - all lead to less discreet breastfeeding, but none of that is the mum's control. Breastfeeding shouldn't be only for those who can do it 'perfectly'.

I don't think it's too much to ask society to put the needs of a newborn baby above their own and just quietly deal with whatever discomfort they feel seeing women's breasts being used for their original purpose.

Yes, I agree. I don’t know if people talking about seeing only half an inch of skin have breastfed much to be honest. Yes, that’s what you’ll see (if that) when the feeding is established, but latching on can be more difficult especially if baby is very young, or upset or ill etc. Or an older baby can be distracted and interested in what’s going on around them. I have had milk spray across the room on a number of occasions.

It can often be very straightforward too of course.

OP is right, shawls can be a faff. I think it likely OP’s mother doesn’t realise how awkward they can sometimes be. That said I’ve found large muslins to be extremely useful personally, especially when out and about. Multi-functional.

But all I’ve suggested on here is that OP give her mum a heads up when she’s about to latch her baby? Accept her embarrassment regarding even partial nudity. Know that it’s a her problem but accept her and compromise by communicating. Allow her to quietly deal with her discomfort. Give her a chance.

But that’s not allowed either it seems. Better for OP to distance herself!??
I do think people are being very dogmatic.

Balloonhearts · 03/01/2025 12:34

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 02/01/2025 18:58

I’ll ask you the same I’ve asked as others - are all discomforts valid if they happens within a person’s home? And where do you draw the line?

Yes all discomforts are valid. A home is a private space that no one but the owner/occupant has a right to be in. Its not like a shop or job or public place. You can refuse to have anyone in your home for any reason. Even police have to have permission, a court order or probable cause to enter.

Refusing someone entry because of their race or sex or because they pick their nose is morally reprehensible and a disgusting attitude but still ultimately your right.

If it isn't your home, you respect their wishes or leave.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 03/01/2025 12:36

Katypp · 03/01/2025 11:55

I'm out. Not announcing it, just to clarify in case I get accused of 'not coming back'.
The twisting of the original OP and the weaponising of bfeeding, complete with the namecalling and the utter lack of consideration for anyone else sickens me tbh.
I will leave you to your echo chamber. All the reasonable posters have left now, which kind of defeats your mission.

Edited

Oh that's rich!
Coming from someone who labels breastfeeding women 'princesses'

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:37

Balloonhearts · 03/01/2025 12:34

Yes all discomforts are valid. A home is a private space that no one but the owner/occupant has a right to be in. Its not like a shop or job or public place. You can refuse to have anyone in your home for any reason. Even police have to have permission, a court order or probable cause to enter.

Refusing someone entry because of their race or sex or because they pick their nose is morally reprehensible and a disgusting attitude but still ultimately your right.

If it isn't your home, you respect their wishes or leave.

So it would be fine to tell a bottle feeding mother to cover up with a shawl as her baby feeds and it’s on the bottle feeder to compromise?

I mean if that’s how you wanna love your life then fair enough but don’t expect to be making friends and keeping loved ones

Balloonhearts · 03/01/2025 12:40

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:37

So it would be fine to tell a bottle feeding mother to cover up with a shawl as her baby feeds and it’s on the bottle feeder to compromise?

I mean if that’s how you wanna love your life then fair enough but don’t expect to be making friends and keeping loved ones

As I said, if you're in their house, you follow their rules. However ridiculous those rules may be.

I didn't say I agreed, in fact if you actually look at the post quoting me, I said the opposite. That in public or at home I'd not think twice at seeing g someone breastfeeding. Wouldn't bother me but in someone else's home you do have to respect their wishes or leave.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 03/01/2025 12:40

Balloonhearts · 03/01/2025 12:34

Yes all discomforts are valid. A home is a private space that no one but the owner/occupant has a right to be in. Its not like a shop or job or public place. You can refuse to have anyone in your home for any reason. Even police have to have permission, a court order or probable cause to enter.

Refusing someone entry because of their race or sex or because they pick their nose is morally reprehensible and a disgusting attitude but still ultimately your right.

If it isn't your home, you respect their wishes or leave.

Then those people need to reevaluate their priorities.

Balloonhearts · 03/01/2025 12:42

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 03/01/2025 12:40

Then those people need to reevaluate their priorities.

Agreed. I'd not let squeamishness come between family but some people would. Its up to them. Their house, their relationship to ruin.

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:45

Balloonhearts · 03/01/2025 12:40

As I said, if you're in their house, you follow their rules. However ridiculous those rules may be.

I didn't say I agreed, in fact if you actually look at the post quoting me, I said the opposite. That in public or at home I'd not think twice at seeing g someone breastfeeding. Wouldn't bother me but in someone else's home you do have to respect their wishes or leave.

I mean I don’t treat my home like some weird dictatorship nor the people I love like total shit, because I’m not a narcissist or a twat, but I guess it’s good to know that some people do behave that way. I’ll try look out for them. But at least it’s about homes and not BFing!

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:45

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 03/01/2025 12:40

Then those people need to reevaluate their priorities.

I’m not sure many people like this exist? Are people really that weird?

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 03/01/2025 12:54

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:45

I’m not sure many people like this exist? Are people really that weird?

I've never met one myself but mumsnet seems to have plenty! It's quite something ro behold.

Balloonhearts · 03/01/2025 13:00

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 12:45

I’m not sure many people like this exist? Are people really that weird?

Spend a few years working hospitality or retail. You'll never again ask that question. Some people are fucking nuts.

I once had a customer on the phone asking a time for her installer to arrive. I called him on my mobile to check and said to him 'can you give this lady a call when you leave your current job just so she knows you're on your way?' Yes, no problem.

Picked up the store phone to relay this to my customer and she shrieked down the phone at me 'how dare you call me SHE! You don't refer to people as SHE! And he won't be using his mobile phone in MY house to call someone else! They can wait. I'M the customer, he should be paying attentionto my job.'

I warned him she was crazy and not to get his phone out till he left. There is literally no point reasoning with people like that. They think you're the weird one and their batshitness is normal.

MajorCarolDanvers · 03/01/2025 13:06

So many people have really weird views about breastfeeding. Some on this thread need therapy frankly.

no wonder the UK has the worst bf rates in the whole world when there are so many backward and perverted opinions about feeding a baby to contend with.

ShesNotACowShesAFox · 03/01/2025 13:09

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 03/01/2025 12:36

Oh that's rich!
Coming from someone who labels breastfeeding women 'princesses'

Indeed, I wonder if it’s princessy to be “sickened” because someone doesn’t agree with you 🤣

marshmallowfinder · 03/01/2025 13:10

Are you sure she wasn't asking as she was thinking she'd like to buy you one?

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 03/01/2025 13:18

MajorCarolDanvers · 03/01/2025 13:06

So many people have really weird views about breastfeeding. Some on this thread need therapy frankly.

no wonder the UK has the worst bf rates in the whole world when there are so many backward and perverted opinions about feeding a baby to contend with.

It's like some kind of mass psychosis.

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