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Should I of gotten in the car?

519 replies

CountryVic · 01/01/2025 01:16

I have a friend with 2 kids, ages 5 and 10, her 10 year old has additional needs and can be quite hard work (suspected ADHD).

When we go out together, she has to drive because of the car seat requirement for her 5 year old. Lately her 10 year old will not get out of the front seat when picking me up, I’ve had to resort to sitting in the back with the 5 year old and her car is not overly roomy in the back seat. The last time I was in the back for 1 hour 20 mins each way and it was super uncomfortable on my back. In the past when I have managed to get in the front seat before him, he has kicked the chair constantly on the drive back.

Last week I was asked if I wanted to go watch their football game, so I said yes but that I needed to sit in the front seat. I reminded him of this on Monday when I bumped into them down the street. They came to pick me up this morning for 7.45am. He was not going to get out of the front seat, no amount of telling off or bribing or threats from his mum worked, and he was really shouting and winding the window up and down, if the door was opened he would slam it, my neighbour actually called out is everything ok? So I shut the door and said I’ll drive my own car and meet you there. She was a bit put out by this but I said my backs not been that great and I don’t want to sit in the back for 45 mins and he’s clearly not going to move.

So she left, I got in my car, but then realised that I didn’t know which football oval they were playing on. I tried calling her but no answer so I sent a text saying I needed the oval name and address and set off to the area I thought it was in. 15 mins into the drive I stopped for a takeaway coffee, no text response from her, called again and no answer. So I sent another text and said I’ll have to give it a miss as not sure which oval, and I went home.

I got a message from her at 11am saying it was a shame I missed out on their great day out and next time I should be a little bit more tolerant, because I know how their son can be, and that flexibility goes a long way in a friendship. I’ve responded that from now on it just may be easier if I drive myself, and that I’ve always been accomodating to her family’s needs, but the shouting at 7.30am was just to much for me.

Should I of gotten in her car? AIBU here to say I’ll drive myself from now on, so I can avoid all the drama? It does mean we can’t catch up in the car but to be honest he’s usually talking over the top of everyone and cuts you off so it’s not like the conversation is flowing well. I do enjoy spending time with them and she says she appreciates the extra hand as we typically do kid things when her husband is not available, and I always pay for lunch or dinner for us all, and my own entry into events. My children are in their 20s now so maybe I’m less tolerant. I do value our friendship, we’re the same age but I had my kids at 25, 27 and 30 and she had hers at 37 and 42 - we’re both 48 this year.

TLDR - would you sit in the back seat of a car if a child wouldn’t move for you? Or drive yourself.

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PierceMorgansChin · 02/01/2025 16:17

BellissimoGecko · 02/01/2025 15:58

And here in fact you need the past tense, 'got', not the past participle. 'Got' is the only possible correct word here.

English is not my first language. I have been taught gotten is correct, but you are saying its American not British? I won't be using gotten no more

sanityisamyth · 02/01/2025 16:19

@PierceMorgansChin a lot of "English" taught is US English. A lot of British children now have an American accent, or use American words because they watch so much American TV or YouTube etc.

PierceMorgansChin · 02/01/2025 16:23

sanityisamyth · 02/01/2025 16:19

@PierceMorgansChin a lot of "English" taught is US English. A lot of British children now have an American accent, or use American words because they watch so much American TV or YouTube etc.

I'm actually Eastern European haha and so was my teacher. I have just read an article on grammarly that confirms got is correct form. I'm a bit embarrassed that I have been using incorrect form for years.

GivingitToGod · 02/01/2025 16:28

SilenceInside · 01/01/2025 01:21

I would have just arranged to drive myself rather than get involved in a difficult parenting situation with a child with additional needs. I wouldn't make a big deal of it, but just say that you'll sort out your own transport when you meet up.

THIS
I know of some children with additional needs that have very specific requests re their place in the car etc and these should be supported

sanityisamyth · 02/01/2025 17:04

@PierceMorgansChin thank you for wanting to learn English correctly! Pedants' corner is a good room to be in if you have any questions. AIBU is a bit brutal ...

LivelyHare · 02/01/2025 17:37

The obvious solution is that you all go in your car. That way you can provide free transport and petrol on top of the childcare and food you already dish out.

BarbaraHoward · 02/01/2025 17:43

PierceMorgansChin · 02/01/2025 16:23

I'm actually Eastern European haha and so was my teacher. I have just read an article on grammarly that confirms got is correct form. I'm a bit embarrassed that I have been using incorrect form for years.

It's not incorrect. It's an old English term that fell out of use in England but remained in most of the rest of the English speaking world.

Lots of so-called Americanisms are old English.

In Ireland for example, we'd never say "should/could/would have got", we'd always use gotten, and got sounds wrong to the ear here. Unless you're writing very formally somewhere with a particular style dictating British English, you're all good.

tommyhoundmum · 02/01/2025 17:59

I thought, perhaps wrongly children had to be a certain height and age to travel in the front seat because of the airbags. Please correct me someone.

Yournevertooldtolovehamsters · 02/01/2025 18:01

It absolutely ridiculous how parents of some Special needs kids pander to their children, how is he ever going to learn to be a responsible adult. If he's able to sit in the back for his father, he is able to sit in the back for an adult with back pain. Don't use disability as an excuse for bad behaviour. And before half of mums net lynch me, I've three kids, one with autism (diagnosed at three, non verbal till five, one with Asperger's ) my daughter with autism, now 25 gets really annoyed with parents that let autistic kids get behave badly instead of finding a solution that helps them for the future

chaosmaker · 02/01/2025 18:17

clearly drive yourself, OP

DeeDoyle · 02/01/2025 18:23

Op as a parent of a child with multiple disabilities you werent wrong. It sounds like you are a very supportive and helpful friend and shes lucky to have you. Just make sure she doesnt take advantage or use you. Her comment of "can you still babysit" concerns me. Make it clear going forward either you sit in the front or drive yourself.x

pinkyredrose · 02/01/2025 18:26

Why the hell would you get up at that time to watch your mate's kid play football?

Teddybear23 · 02/01/2025 18:30

Just because some children have special needs it does not mean that the world and his dog has to do what they always want. My friend has a child with special needs and he ran rings around her but only her because she didn’t want to discipline him because ‘he wouldn’t understand’! But he understand well enough when he stood on the kitchen worktop and urinated on the kitchen floor laughing while he did it! Your friend needs to show him who’s boss and stop pandering to him. I know my post will annoy some people.

AConcernedCitizen · 02/01/2025 18:35

There isn't a ten year old walking the earth that would dictate where I sat in a car. Mum should have taken charge and got him shifted.

Khayker · 02/01/2025 18:48

BellissimoGecko · 01/01/2025 01:23

Child with suspected ADHD, do you mean?

You wouldn't believe the amount of 'suspected' ADHD in unruly children at the moment. Saves acknowledging and dealing with their behaviour I assume. My son had ADHD so I know a bit about it.

Imbusytodaysorry · 02/01/2025 18:50

@CountryVic i wouldn’t be following her around or paying for anything.
Time for change .
Meet somewhere mutual without her child

Id go as far to say you don’t what to be more tolerant . If she had said you were to go in the car then you could have chose to refuse the lift.
Your kids are grown if some less time with her.
Her child is spoilt .

sabbii · 02/01/2025 19:02

CountryVic · 01/01/2025 01:16

I have a friend with 2 kids, ages 5 and 10, her 10 year old has additional needs and can be quite hard work (suspected ADHD).

When we go out together, she has to drive because of the car seat requirement for her 5 year old. Lately her 10 year old will not get out of the front seat when picking me up, I’ve had to resort to sitting in the back with the 5 year old and her car is not overly roomy in the back seat. The last time I was in the back for 1 hour 20 mins each way and it was super uncomfortable on my back. In the past when I have managed to get in the front seat before him, he has kicked the chair constantly on the drive back.

Last week I was asked if I wanted to go watch their football game, so I said yes but that I needed to sit in the front seat. I reminded him of this on Monday when I bumped into them down the street. They came to pick me up this morning for 7.45am. He was not going to get out of the front seat, no amount of telling off or bribing or threats from his mum worked, and he was really shouting and winding the window up and down, if the door was opened he would slam it, my neighbour actually called out is everything ok? So I shut the door and said I’ll drive my own car and meet you there. She was a bit put out by this but I said my backs not been that great and I don’t want to sit in the back for 45 mins and he’s clearly not going to move.

So she left, I got in my car, but then realised that I didn’t know which football oval they were playing on. I tried calling her but no answer so I sent a text saying I needed the oval name and address and set off to the area I thought it was in. 15 mins into the drive I stopped for a takeaway coffee, no text response from her, called again and no answer. So I sent another text and said I’ll have to give it a miss as not sure which oval, and I went home.

I got a message from her at 11am saying it was a shame I missed out on their great day out and next time I should be a little bit more tolerant, because I know how their son can be, and that flexibility goes a long way in a friendship. I’ve responded that from now on it just may be easier if I drive myself, and that I’ve always been accomodating to her family’s needs, but the shouting at 7.30am was just to much for me.

Should I of gotten in her car? AIBU here to say I’ll drive myself from now on, so I can avoid all the drama? It does mean we can’t catch up in the car but to be honest he’s usually talking over the top of everyone and cuts you off so it’s not like the conversation is flowing well. I do enjoy spending time with them and she says she appreciates the extra hand as we typically do kid things when her husband is not available, and I always pay for lunch or dinner for us all, and my own entry into events. My children are in their 20s now so maybe I’m less tolerant. I do value our friendship, we’re the same age but I had my kids at 25, 27 and 30 and she had hers at 37 and 42 - we’re both 48 this year.

TLDR - would you sit in the back seat of a car if a child wouldn’t move for you? Or drive yourself.

ADHD is never an excuse for shitty behaviour - ever. There's no reason to bend over backwards.

kkloo · 02/01/2025 19:07

thepariscrimefiles · 01/01/2025 07:58

Loads of people say 'could of' instead of 'could have'. It may not be grammatically correct, but it is still clear what OP means. The poster actually pretending that she didn't understand what OP meant is a twat.

I believe that this comes from the fact that people say could've when they talk. So of course everyone would understand what it means when it's written down even if they know it's wrong.

OhcantthInkofaname · 02/01/2025 19:25

I'm not sure that the child's additional needs wouldn't it be met by better parenting. Drive yourself.

Sleepytiredyawn · 02/01/2025 19:31

I wouldn’t have got in the back either and I think because you didn’t, she ignored your messages and calls from her response. I know 48 isn’t old but it’s old enough to suffer with aches and pains so I don’t blame you for refusing to sit in the back.

LaDamaDeElche · 02/01/2025 19:49

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 01/01/2025 08:03

"Gotten" isn't a word...

"Should I have got in the car?" would be correct.

Gotten and got are both the past participle of the verb get. If you’re going to correct someone, at least make sure you know what you’re talking about or it makes you look a bit silly.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 02/01/2025 19:53

LaDamaDeElche · 02/01/2025 19:49

Gotten and got are both the past participle of the verb get. If you’re going to correct someone, at least make sure you know what you’re talking about or it makes you look a bit silly.

You have a looooot of catching up to do...

LaDamaDeElche · 02/01/2025 20:08

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 02/01/2025 19:53

You have a looooot of catching up to do...

I’ve read the whole thread now. You said originally that gotten isn’t a word. You’re wrong. I’m a CELTA qualified English teacher who teaches from the Cambridge syllabus to ESL speakers across the world. Get and gotten are taught on the Cambridge syllabus as the past participle of the verb get. It’s in the irregular verbs list in all text books. You can post as many links as you like, but it is indeed a word and it isn’t incorrect to use either get or gotten. The only the mistake the OP made is using ‘of’ instead of ‘have’. I personally wouldn’t have corrected her on that because I’m not a dick and it’s clear what she meant.

Ayechinnyreckon · 02/01/2025 20:13

I have a single mum friend. Her 9 year old always sits in the front, it's his normal seat. It wouldn't occur to me to move him out of it! I've always sat in the back even when she's started moving him in to the back.

If the journey was long and I didn't want to sit in the back I'd take my own transport.

I think you need to start meeting this friend at places as standard.

MarvellousMonsters · 02/01/2025 20:40

Ukholidaysaregreat · 01/01/2025 01:23

She is bonkers. I can't believe she can't quickly move her child to the back seat. Although I don't know how she would stop him kicking you all the way to your destination. What was her explanation for not letting you know where the football match was when you were driving around?

You've never dealt with a child with additional needs have you Confused