To ask why women would be uncomfortable with unisex bathrooms

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Discussion with my DH tonight about this. Am I right in thinking that unisex bathrooms are not great?

Go in the men's then? If they're as bad as women's in terms of cleanliness then it doesn't matter. In fact the men's bogs can all be made unisex because it doesn't matter and the women's can remain as toilets for biological women.

as someone who used to clean pub loos. the mens are 100% WORSE than the ladies toilets, every time.

Abso-fucking-lutely.Any woman who can argue against this needs their head testing. ❤️

Privacy.

@curtaintwitcher78

Whenever you go to the toilet in a small cafe/restaurant where there's only one toilet, it's unisex.

And if there is on toilet, you aren't likely to be sharing the space with someone at the same time. And likely to be one door between the toilet space and the cafe / restaurant main area where other people are.

Can you not see the difference between that and unisex toilets with multiple cubicles, including ones that may be more separate to the nearest public area, where you will be in much closer proximity to other people using the facilities within the toilets?

I am disabled and all the bathrooms I go to are floor to ceiling. The have a pull rope for an emergency and most likely we are the ones who will need it most. It’s no extra cost to install these as all the electrics are there and the systems (I have fitted a lot of them). Individual bathrooms are the way to go. I don’t feel comfortable doing by ablutions with gaps at all. Let’s make it better for everyone.

I think taking the toilet out of the equation, I'm not actually keen on sharing enclosed spaces, with only one exit, with strange men. I wouldn't stand in a cupboard in a small room with a couple of cupboards in it, and random men walking in. Drunk men in particular aren't a favourite experience of mine.

I'm not bothered by my work ones, or cafes with one room that opens into a public space.

If you use this theory then my bed is gender neutral- does that mean anyone can come in it?
A single use toilet in a private home or in a very public place like an aeroplane are not the same.

It's not ideal, but it's not as dangerous as a group of cubicles off a corridor. However, there's still the problem of allowing strange males to access a space used by females, as shown in the case of the Dundee school where a boy secreted a camera inside the cubicle of a unisex toilet set-up.

A small cafe means it's very hard for someone to sneak in and assault you because theyre not far away, and they're far more likely to be clean. It's an entirely different scenario.bit different than public loos, busy loos or places where people are likely to be drunk

This.

Any of us who have worked in bars and restaurants know this.

People saying women's are just as bad need to visit 10-20 male and female public bathrooms and report back. They'd be horrified about how much worse the male ones are, I was genuinely shocked.

Had to use a unisex toilet at a recent work event where my male boss was in the cubicle next to me and we came out at the same time washing our hands, really nice bloke have nothing against him, but I can't describe how uncomfortable it made me and I can't really explain why, almost a vulnerability? Despite him not being at all threatening.

Don't think I've ever been in a "unisex" toilet that hasn't had pee all over the seat. They are always grubbier than women only loos. (and as my job involves a lot of travel across the country I use a lot of public loos!)

I don't want to share an isolated, enclosed space with a penis because I'm scared the owner of it might assault me. When penis owners stop using them as weapons against women, I'll gladly reconsider.

The stench
The lack of hygiene
The lack of privacy
The lack of a safe space
The greatly increased risk of assault

I love this😅

I can't think of any good reason TO mix toilets.

Hard no from me.

I'm not opposed to uni sex ones where separate female and male toilets are also supplied.

In small establishments, the toilets are nearly always on the main areas or very close to them, are single users with everything contained within them, and privacy is maintained with the clear expectation that one person (or parent with child) will be using it at a time.

That is not the cause for a typical single sex toilet if it's changed into mixed sex, and neither small establishment single toilets nor home toilets can be compared to the concerns of large public toilet or changing areas.

Single user disabled toilets that are put down random halls similarly have risk issues, though they tend to alarm systems inside of them which does mitigate it somewhat.

For me personally women's toilets are more than just functional spaces, they are places where on an evening out women bond and more importantly a place where we can run too if scared and know a women will be there an protect us. They are safe.

This comes from me as a scared 22 year old in London with an unwanted man following me and I was able to run to the women's public toilets, he didn't overstep the door and luckily for me there were women inside. He knew sat that I was safe.

If those had been mixed god help me.

Just no. For so many reasons.

But I wouldn't use them out of choice.

1 in 4 pregnant women will unfortunately miscarry. Many times this happens (or at least starts) outside of home.

Single sex for women means dignity and privacy and without the additional stress factor of men being present during an extremely difficult, vulnerable and upsetting time. And a cubicle that can be accessed if help is needed is much safer than a sealed unit.

This doesn’t affect men of course and often isn’t talked about openly, so it wouldn’t even occur to them probably.

I personally am uncomfortable with them because there's always quite a lot of urine on the floor and I can't "hover" and not tread in it, or even worse get it on the bottom of my trousers 🤢 they also smell bad because of that urine, far worse than women's toilets.

Mixed loos in the Barbican. No sinks in the cubicle. Not great if you need to clean up menstrual blood.
Smell like pee.
I just felt uncomfortable sharing the open sink space with men.