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friend ‘lodging’ gone sour

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sausagedogmumm · 26/12/2024 23:10

Need some advice/opinions

Myself and my partner let a friend lodge with us a few months back. At the time she had no where to go and we offered to help, as it’s just the 2 of us with 3 bedrooms. The original deal was a stop gap for her whilst she got herself sorted, we agreed she wouldn’t pay rent but instead pay for household bits and bills. This was a short term fix, she has a cat who we originally said would have to stay elsewhere as we have cats and a puppy of our own and our cats are female and not yet spayed and live inside and hers is a male, outside cat. She also informed us all her belongings would be stored elsewhere, it would just be her and the stuff she needed for a short while, whilst she got back on her feet.

She was unable to find anywhere for her cat to stay so we suggested he stayed downstairs in our dinning room which leads out into the garden and would give him access in and out - it’s a big space and cosy and would mean he was completely separate from our pets, we even suggested she could bring him up stairs at night - our spare room is tiny so this seemed a better option for him.

The week she moved in, we were informed she’d lost her job and the storage had fallen through, so suddenly we had her, alllll her stuff and her cat in our tiny spare room (and her belongings filling our garage and dinning room). She then refused to house the cat downstairs and instead insisted we put up a ‘shelf’ on the outside of our mid terrace house so he could jump in and out. We turned this down, so after a lot of trying to change our minds, she settled for him being let out the front door (carried down).

We realised within a month in, none of our ground rules had really been respected, she was regularly letting her cat mix with ours and then randomly dropped on us, her cat has a gum disease which can be transferred through salvia. She did not contribute to bills and would leave all her dirty washing up in the bowl for us to clean. She then began to leave her cat outside all evening and go out, which caused our neighbours to complain he was trying to get into their houses - to which her response was to tell them to ‘f off.’ She spilled some kind of ink on our carpet which she didn’t inform us of and it’s now ground in and the whole thing needs replacing, put posters on our walls and cracked our paintwork.

As you can imagine, we are very frustrated with the situation and became even more so, when she asked to write up a contract claiming she was paying rent so she could claim more benefits. We refused as she was not actually wanting to pay but transfer it to us and then us send it back and we said we cannot since that is fraud and we are in jobs that require a DBS.

This caused her to become even worse with us and she now regularly moans at us for things like letting her cat in when it’s raining or shutting her bedroom window if we’re going out for the evening and she’s also out till late.

We decided to inform her, we would need our spare room back by the end of jan (6 weeks notice), we stated this was mainly due to our cat ripping out her fur due to the stress of the male cat in the house, meaning until he’s gone, our poor girl is on steroids and stress relief which is costing us hundreds. This combined with the fact she leaves heaters and lights on at all times and has 2 hour baths which has caused our bills to triple, has meant we can no longer have her stay.

She has taken this awfully, threatening suicide and claiming she’ll be on the streets. We have suggested again and again, she contacts the council to try and get housing support but she refused to do so until we told her she had 6 weeks.

Was it fair of us to give her a deadline to move out? We genuinely cannot afford it and my partner grew up in a household with a parent who regularly threatened suicide so as you can guess, he is finding it all very hard

OP posts:
Carrotandparsnip · 26/12/2024 23:14

She’s got to go. You’ve been overly generous and the threats of suicide are not your problem.

Put it this way - she either moves out in 6 weeks and it’s shit in the short term but it’s over.

Or you don’t stick to your guns, she stays and it’s shit for the long term AND whenever it comes to an end.

Do it, asap, her mental health is not your fault and you deserve your happy home back after being helpful.

captainPugwashh · 26/12/2024 23:16

Her mental health is not your problem
. She's taking the piss and is really manipulative.

Zombella · 26/12/2024 23:18

She's threatening suicide as a way of emotional blackmail. Her behaviour is appalling and if you don't get rid of her, it'll be you and your partner's mental health that suffers in the end. Stick to your deadline.

TwinkleLights24 · 26/12/2024 23:18

It’s harsh but she isn’t your problem and she needs to go asap.

Where’s her family?

HeyThereDelilah1 · 26/12/2024 23:18

Six weeks is more than generous, she sounds like a bloody nightmare. I really can’t see how this situation benefits you or your partner in any way, shape or form?

GuineaPigWig · 26/12/2024 23:18

How the fuck did you fall into this situation. It’s madness. Get rid asap. She is not your friend (in case you hadn’t guessed already). She will cause havoc on leaving - good luck

name1234noidea · 26/12/2024 23:19

This sounds so horrific I'm struggling to believe it's real. How can anyone be such a dick? Her not you!

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 26/12/2024 23:22

Aww how awful. She is a freeloader and she isn't your problem.

2025hello · 26/12/2024 23:23

She saw you as two mugs and now manipulating you more.

She is not a friend. Get rid and change the locks. I'd turf her out now!

Timeforsnacks · 26/12/2024 23:24

She is awful. Sounds very self absorbed so no matter how much time you give her I'm sure you will always be painted as evil people who did nothing for her.
You decided on 6 weeks because you know it is generous so don't back down and don't feel guilty.

Ariela · 26/12/2024 23:28

Put the notice in writing, so she then has evidence to go to the council as homeless and they can sort emergency accommodation.
You've been more than kind to her and she's taken advantage.

pestowithwalnuts · 26/12/2024 23:31

She's taking the piss. She needs to take her mangy cat and her junk and bog off.
And she won't commit suicide.....it's just a lame arse excuse for you take pity on her.
Don't give in and don't back down
Also..you need to be there on the day she leaves to make sure she doesn't leave her cat behind and that she takes nothing of your with her.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 26/12/2024 23:33

Girl, there's being a friend and then there's this

She needs to leave.

You've been very fair. I'm sure she doesn't think she's been so bad, and maybe has taken your politeness as you being OK with her behaviour

But You've been very reasonable. Sorry for your dh as well as someone threatening suicide is stressful at the best of times

Coldandunderablanket · 26/12/2024 23:38

What a nightmare for you. I wouldn't be able to wait the 6 weeks but instead tell her she has to be gone by the weekend. Be very clear that it was a short term measure to support her and she is taking the piss completely overstayed. You have supported her long enough.

She's a car crash, don't get involved in her life any more.

Frankbeverleyandthebutlers · 26/12/2024 23:41

I think the job loss(fired)was in the post and she's latched on to you .get rid op she's a user.

EsmeSusanOgg · 26/12/2024 23:42

I would not give her six weeks, I would have her go now.

unfestive · 26/12/2024 23:42

She has massively abused your generosity. If someone was doing me such a huge favour I would be respectful of their rules and would try to make myself as invisible as possible. She is moaning, arguing, pissing off your neighbours, costing you money, distressing your animals and she isn't even sorry! Or grateful.

Just tell her to go.

You've done more than enough for her, don't feel guilty, she is an adult who needs to sort herself out.

HoundsOfHelfire · 26/12/2024 23:45

Write her a letter she can present to the council. Must include that she was staying with you (sofa surfing) but this arrangement will now end on x date and cannot be extended.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 26/12/2024 23:46

You were wrong to give her six weeks notice. That is WAY TOO LONG.

You had the benefit of her being a lodger, rather than a tenant, you could have given her no notice, not that I agree with that, but one week's notice would have been enough.

Doesn't even sound like she's paying you lodgings?

Get her out by the weekend of 4th January. This cannot carry on until the end of January.

cherish123 · 26/12/2024 23:46

She's a terrible friend. You have been kind and she has not respected your kindness. She broke every rule and hasn't paid any money. You need to get rid.

What adult puts posters on walls?

thinkfast · 26/12/2024 23:46

She has massively abused your generosity OP. Why have you given her 6 weeks to find somewhere? I think you should shorten this asap and get your home back!

sheldonRockz · 26/12/2024 23:48

She has really abused your kindness and generosity and is quite frankly taking the piss. Where is all her family in this? Tbh as soon as I’d heard she’d lost her job and was trying to change the goalposts re storing stuff, her cat etc, I would’ve told her the arrangement wasn’t going to work and she’d need to go elsewhere. give her 2 weeks max and she needs to be out. Get her to call the council tomorrow advising she’s homeless, she most likely will be a priority and they will put her in emergency accommodation.

Stay strong and don’t back down, you don’t owe her anything, especially with how she has treated you and your home!

LongDarkTeatime · 26/12/2024 23:50

HoundsOfHelfire · 26/12/2024 23:45

Write her a letter she can present to the council. Must include that she was staying with you (sofa surfing) but this arrangement will now end on x date and cannot be extended.

👆🏼 this and include the term ‘will be homeless on X date’

Stay strong, maintain your boundaries and be ready for more fireworks.
If she threatens to end her life you can choose to take here at her word and suggest a GP appointment, a call to out of hours, or suggest an A&E visit for a psychiatric assessment

pictoosh · 26/12/2024 23:51

How long had you known her before she moved in? Did you know her well?

This level of drama and intrusion is insane. She has plonked herself in your home and made herself your problem. I imagine that anyone who would do this is going to be difficult to get rid of. I am worried for you.

EachandEveryone · 26/12/2024 23:51

Your cats need spaying