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AIBU to only do a token gift for my 12 yo but more for siblings?

252 replies

Lovelysummerdays · 24/12/2024 11:29

DS wanted and is booked to do an expensive ski holiday with school costing over £1k plus buying skiwear. It’s not a case of everyone doing it as eldest has missed out due to covid. Also not run every year for youngest. Deal was it’d be birthday and Christmas for two years. Trip is in January 2026. It’s over what I’d normally spend tbh.

Is it unreasonable to stick to that? He does have a bit of sad face as I was trying to, gently, manage expectations. I do have to cough up another £200 quid in January.

I do think it’s a life lesson, but at the same time I feel a bit mean.

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Lovelysummerdays · 24/12/2024 11:53

MerryLiftMass · 24/12/2024 11:44

Two years is ages at that age. I would have got the gloves, mask etc that he will need for his trip but can't grow out of. That would remind him that the trip is his main gift and mean he still gets stuff to open. You will have to buy them anyway.

We have that stuff as all the kids ski, just on local dry slope and Glenshee last year. The other kids are wildly jealous of his planned trip to Austria.

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Teenagerantruns · 24/12/2024 11:54

I think it's OK as long as he has some token presents to unwrap. I paid a ridiculous amount 15 years ago for my daughter to go on a trip to Spain with school, she begged and l said OK its your birthday and Christmas present.( more than l would normally spend)She wasn't thrilled when l stuck to it but she had a lovely holiday, which was sold as an art and history trip😁. If l remember correctly it was about £500 for 4 nights.
If he wants presents can you just cancel it now and spend the £200 on Christmas presents? Give him the option.

TheWonderhorse · 24/12/2024 11:54

Lovelysummerdays · 24/12/2024 11:48

He will be getting other presents from other people. His dad has gotten him a laptop it’s just no big ticket item from me.

Well then that's not a token gift! A laptop is much more than lots of kids get. If you're a single parent and also the only one paying for the trip then that's alright.

But if his normal Christmas is something like a laptop off one parent and another big ticket item of the other then in general his Christmases are a lot, and I would perhaps think about pulling back generally in favour of experiences through the year.

ZeldaStoleMyCrumpets · 24/12/2024 11:54

despairnow · 24/12/2024 11:39

Oh my goodness, poor child I think it is very jesn sorry - surely a few bits tyrant cost the earth but shoes live and thought

Eh ?

biscuitsandbooks · 24/12/2024 11:55

Lovelysummerdays · 24/12/2024 11:48

He will be getting other presents from other people. His dad has gotten him a laptop it’s just no big ticket item from me.

That's a bit of drip feed!

itsgettingweird · 24/12/2024 11:55

I'd have got stiff he'll need for trip.

Ski socks
Lip balm
Face suncream
Toiletries and bag
Ski jacket
Suitcase?

Divide it up over the 2 years and give him something each time.

I can understand not getting a PlayStation or something on top but clothes, trainers and anything he needs can be done for Christmas/birthdays so he gets "something".

ForReasonsUnknown · 24/12/2024 11:57

itsgettingweird · 24/12/2024 11:55

I'd have got stiff he'll need for trip.

Ski socks
Lip balm
Face suncream
Toiletries and bag
Ski jacket
Suitcase?

Divide it up over the 2 years and give him something each time.

I can understand not getting a PlayStation or something on top but clothes, trainers and anything he needs can be done for Christmas/birthdays so he gets "something".

He’s getting a laptop from his dad, I’m sure he’ll survive.

Teenagerantruns · 24/12/2024 11:57

Lovelysummerdays · 24/12/2024 11:48

He will be getting other presents from other people. His dad has gotten him a laptop it’s just no big ticket item from me.

Then this is a pointless thread , it's not like he's going to sitting there with a selection box whole other kids have loads🤣

doodleschnoodle · 24/12/2024 11:57

@ZeldaStoleMyCrumpets

'Oh my goodness, poor child. I think it is very mean sorry - surely a few bits doesn't cost the earth but shows love and thought?'

Xmas Grin
thegirlwithemousyhair · 24/12/2024 11:58

Not unreasonable. His Dad has got him a laptop. He'll have a few other pressies to open on Christmas day including yours so he's hardly Oliver Twist is he?

mitogoshigg · 24/12/2024 12:00

Not unreasonable but if you have time I'd consider nipping to mountain warehouse for ski thermal underwear, or charity shops for a few bits and next year buy a jacket etc

MILLYmo0se · 24/12/2024 12:00

Doggymummar · 24/12/2024 11:36

Perfectly fine I think. He is old enough to understand. My parents used to do this for me and my brother I'm November bd and he is New Years day.

How did it feel having no birthday or Christmas presents to open for 2 years?

xB1991x · 24/12/2024 12:02

I remember having a ski trip as my main gift when I was similar age, my mum got me little bits like ski socks and a luggage tag for xmas from Tk maxx. Maybe pick up a hat/some gloves as a last minute present?

Lovelysummerdays · 24/12/2024 12:02

ueberlin2030 · 24/12/2024 11:35

Did he know that this was going to be his gift(s) from the start?
I'm always realistic with expectations regarding my DS, and always have been in an age appropriate way, so don't have a problem with this being his present, but you definitely should have been clear from day 1 (hopefully you were).

Edited

Totally clear from the start. Quite a lot of his friends are not going due to £££s. He’s a decent skier and it seems like a lovely opportunity however made really clear my present would be ski trip for 2 * birthdays/ Christmas’

The other dc would love to go, especially eldest who is actually really good at skiing but misses out as a year to old . If I was to renege they’d think it was probably really unfair.

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MILLYmo0se · 24/12/2024 12:02

coconutpie · 24/12/2024 11:49

This.

I don't think it is appropriate at all to make a 12 year old miss out on 2 birthdays and 2 Christmases for a ski trip in 2026.

Well it turns out he isn't really. It's just his present from mum he's missing out on, dad's getting him a laptop

SchoolDilemma17 · 24/12/2024 12:04

Lovelysummerdays · 24/12/2024 12:02

Totally clear from the start. Quite a lot of his friends are not going due to £££s. He’s a decent skier and it seems like a lovely opportunity however made really clear my present would be ski trip for 2 * birthdays/ Christmas’

The other dc would love to go, especially eldest who is actually really good at skiing but misses out as a year to old . If I was to renege they’d think it was probably really unfair.

Can’t you get him a few more small bits to unwrap eg chocolates, a few stocking fillers etc

Whatado · 24/12/2024 12:04

Brefugee · 24/12/2024 11:47

so he gets the trip that none of the others get? that's a great life lesson for the others.

FWIW, OP, I'd have got some of the ski-trip things (gloves, jacket etc) to wrap up and maybe some small things (book, game) just for something to unwrap.

But when you have more than one child, it is hugely important to be fair, and to be seen to be fair. (otherwise you'll find yourself on the stately homes thread in 15 years)

Fair doesn't mean the same.

One of kids absolutely would love school trips the other no way. So they both won't have gone on them. Should the one who thrives in that type of environment not be able to go because the other couldn't bare being away from home or with so many people?

But the one who doesn't has different interests we pay for that they love.

Making things fair between kids means them all have opportunities to experience things they are interested and supported to become the people they want to be and keeping them in similar financial planning positions imo.

Birthdays maybe but no I wouldn't have tied Christmas presents to it and not for two years at 12.

I wouldn't have bought him a phone but I would have a bought something I knew he liked and was interested in beyond a hoodie and a book.

Is his dad helping fund his ski trip?

nellythe · 24/12/2024 12:05

The laptop was a massive drip feed. Of course, he’s done very well now.

Had it been without the laptop then I’d think it was really quite mean of you.

JMSA · 24/12/2024 12:05

I couldn't do that personally. I'd rather buy several cheaper things. Even a box of his favourite sugary cereal would be something to open!

Lovelysummerdays · 24/12/2024 12:06

biscuitsandbooks · 24/12/2024 11:55

That's a bit of drip feed!

We are divorced so he runs a seperate Christmas to me. I’m doing Christmas morning/ brunch and he has them for dinner.

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TeamMandrake · 24/12/2024 12:07

Two years is too long, imo, it would be different if it was this Jan. What if he is ill in Jan 26? There is just too much riding on it. But, since other people are buying him gifts, I'm sure he will be fine.

Bryzoan · 24/12/2024 12:08

I actually think if it was what he wanted and agreed in advance, it is perfectly reasonable and lovely that he gets to go on the trip. I would just give a few small bits (eg a book, a t-shirt some chocs). I think it would be more confusing for all of them to radically shift position at this point.

OneBadKitty · 24/12/2024 12:08

Unless you really can't stretch to any presents for him I think it's mean- he's only 12 which is still quite young to be able to take this on board when he will see his siblings opening their gifts. Won't his siblings also get expensive trips when they are older anyway making it fair?

housethatbuiltme · 24/12/2024 12:09

£1k for a school trip at 12 year old?

Frankly you couldn't afford the trip by the sounds of it (no shame thats INSANELY expensive, we just told DS he can't go on his GCSE trip at £400) but not doing Christmas or birthdays for 2 years for a 12 year old is INSANE. That is something he will remember forever and will ruin the happiness of the season likely forever at a critical time in growing up.

You're the adult you shouldn't put such a silly option on a child, 2 years is 20% of his life so far he has no real way of conceptualizing that. You dangled what he wanted at the time so he obviously said yes. Its your job to weigh it up, say no and make the smart choices.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 24/12/2024 12:09

He will be getting other presents from other people. His dad has gotten him a laptop it’s just no big ticket item from me.

Then this is a none issue and if he's sad facing because much wants more he sounds rather spoiled.