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Not to let dh take MIL food shopping on Xmas eve

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Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 12:20

Every year we prompt MIL about what a good idea it would be to book an online delivery. Every year she says ‘oh no - I like to pick my own fresh things the day before!’
Every year she then asks dh to take her. It takes AGES because she wants to look at everything and chat to everyone. It takes Dh away from me and the dc on Xmas eve and I find it irritating.

This year it’s been no different we told her please book an online delivery as we have plans this year we can’t take you shopping. She didn’t.
We offered to add anything she needed to our delivery due on 23rd. Not good enough, she as usual wants to pick her own things.

We have all come down with an awful cold/flu and she’s called dh to try to arrange to
go food shopping on Tuesday !!!! He is saying he feels he has to I’ve told him categorically no. That he can’t as if we aren’t all better I just want to rest and if we are all better I want to do something with the dc. She can get a taxi. AIBU to put my foot down ?

OP posts:
wintertumm · 22/12/2024 17:58

I don’t blame you OP. She sounds like she’s being awkward on purpose, and she’s not old she’s 66. I felt you were being mean as I thought this was a 90 year old until I read she’s 66 and that she’s commented you e taken her son away. She’s not elderly. She’s capable,she has options to go later or on 23rd, she’s being awkward and being funny. Everyone saying you’re being controlling - pot kettle black at the MIL!!!

mossylog · 22/12/2024 17:59

Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 12:24

It takes hours and I want us to have Xmas eve as a family

Aye that's fair enough, but your MIL is also your husband's family and he has obligations to her too.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:59

CurlyhairedAssassin · 22/12/2024 17:54

Why does her tradition trump OP and her husband being able to create their own? The MIL could live another 20 years. OP's children will be grown up by then. Is this what Christmas Eve is going to be for the next 20 years? Everyone sitting waiting for Dad to come home from running round after his mother because she refuses to do it any way but hers?

It's only a morning. Most of us do our Christmassy stuff later in the day. Plus they get all of Christmas Day to themselves as a family.

Extiainoiapeial · 22/12/2024 17:59

Feelingathomenow · 22/12/2024 17:57

Oh well, I guess people are always going to be different. My experience of people round that generation is that they think like that. Obviously you’re different to them

I've never come across anyone who thinks different to me! All my friends are 60s and 70s and whilst they throw a fantastic Christmas spread, we all moan together about what a chore going to the supermarket is.

I have one more small shop tomorrow, dreading it.

ThatKhakiMoose · 22/12/2024 17:59

Many posters have encouraged the OP to show Christmas spirit and empathy, but each time the OP has responded with a variation of "I just want my DH at home all day on Xmas Eve this year." I think the extent to which OP resents her DH spending the morning with his mum is controlling. But what can you do, OP asked for advice but isn't budging one bit, so that's that. And MIL will be packed off to Australia for next year! 🤣

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 18:00

Extiainoiapeial · 22/12/2024 17:51

MIL hasn't behaved well as far as early days and the OP marrying her son.

Not interested in children?? It's not any old children, it's her grandchildren. Her loss is all I can say

Some people are just like that.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 22/12/2024 18:01

AlexisP90 · 22/12/2024 17:53

But I get your point yes.

My point was the age isn't really relevant as some have health issues/anxiety/other issues at all sort of ages

It's not really normal for someone of 56 to not be able to take a train alone if it's not a physical disability. Unless it's a mental health issue such as severe anxiety. Or they've had a stroke or brain injury.

OP mentions none of these things so we can only assume she's playing the helpless old lady card, when actually she doesn't really sound that at all.

Livelovebehappy · 22/12/2024 18:01

As many posters have already said, it’s a decision your dh needs to make. On his own. Sounds like he’s piggy in the middle being pulled one way and the other, and is being controlled by both you and his mum. If i was him, next year I’d take myself off on Xmas eve to do something for himself instead of being ordered around around like a child.

CovertPiggery · 22/12/2024 18:01

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:08

You used the word, "nasty" not me, but not "letting" her DH do something is absolutely controlling.

I imagine this is a ritual the MIL has been in the habit of for years. When FIL, her son took his role. My mother was pretty set in her habits and she died years before reaching 66.

She sees it as a social event. Her life sounds very lonely. She doesn't want to shop online. She wants to be out and about and meet people. She wants to choose her own produce. She wants to go in the morning so that things haven't run out. She doesn't want to change what has probably been the habit of a lifetime.

Maybe the DGCs are noisy. The DIL and DGCs won't visit her either because of the convenient cat allergy (take antihistimines!!)

Yes on the face of it, the MIL does appear unreasonable to anyone who adapts and improvises to the circumstances. This older widowed woman, likely many older people, doesn't want to do that and for the sake of a few hours on Christmas Eve morning I think the OP should suck it up.

She's 66, not 96!

Feelingathomenow · 22/12/2024 18:01

EsmeSusanOgg · 22/12/2024 17:49

I'm a similar age to you, with a mum in her 70s and MIL in her late 60s and none of that rings true...

Guess your family is different to mine then ( and all my friends families).

CovertPiggery · 22/12/2024 18:02

Livelovebehappy · 22/12/2024 18:01

As many posters have already said, it’s a decision your dh needs to make. On his own. Sounds like he’s piggy in the middle being pulled one way and the other, and is being controlled by both you and his mum. If i was him, next year I’d take myself off on Xmas eve to do something for himself instead of being ordered around around like a child.

You'd spite your children who wanted to spend Christmas Eve with you just to avoid saying no to your own mother?

Livelovebehappy · 22/12/2024 18:02

ThatKhakiMoose · 22/12/2024 17:59

Many posters have encouraged the OP to show Christmas spirit and empathy, but each time the OP has responded with a variation of "I just want my DH at home all day on Xmas Eve this year." I think the extent to which OP resents her DH spending the morning with his mum is controlling. But what can you do, OP asked for advice but isn't budging one bit, so that's that. And MIL will be packed off to Australia for next year! 🤣

Edited

And presumably DH won’t have a say in that either…..

AlexisP90 · 22/12/2024 18:02

CurlyhairedAssassin · 22/12/2024 18:01

It's not really normal for someone of 56 to not be able to take a train alone if it's not a physical disability. Unless it's a mental health issue such as severe anxiety. Or they've had a stroke or brain injury.

OP mentions none of these things so we can only assume she's playing the helpless old lady card, when actually she doesn't really sound that at all.

She has huge anxiety about these things. She is hugely capable and does a lot on her own but I was just trying to compare her and my MIL who are near 15 years apart.

Again, trying to say the age isn't really relevant to everyone saying 66 is capable to go shopping alone.

VoodooRajin · 22/12/2024 18:03

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:57

Some can, very many can't/won't.

Apparently 55% of over 65 year olds online grocery shop

44PumpLane · 22/12/2024 18:03

AgileGreenSeal · 22/12/2024 15:58

Not sure why you’re baffled. The shopping is a pretext to spend alone time with her son on Christmas Eve morning.

And I understand that, but she wants him from 10am until about 2pm, which means the family can't really do anything as a family (and she doesn't want to join in with the family, she wants to have her son all to herself l, on Christmas Eve.

Fair enough if she wants to join in stuff, or if she wants to have some time alone with him at some other point, but she's being stubbornly awkward that it must be for shopping, that it must be in Christmas Eve and that it must take up the 10-2 slot!

Ridiculous.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 18:03

ThatKhakiMoose · 22/12/2024 17:59

Many posters have encouraged the OP to show Christmas spirit and empathy, but each time the OP has responded with a variation of "I just want my DH at home all day on Xmas Eve this year." I think the extent to which OP resents her DH spending the morning with his mum is controlling. But what can you do, OP asked for advice but isn't budging one bit, so that's that. And MIL will be packed off to Australia for next year! 🤣

Edited

Yeah, whether she wants to go or not!!!

I did a lot of things for my mother when at times it did get on my nerves, but boy am I glad looking back that I jut rolled my eyes behind her back and got on with it. I admired my DH for supporting his late mum too. I think it's a lovely quality in a person, loyalty.

The number of posters who seem to think a man should abandon their mother when they get married is astonishing.

Extiainoiapeial · 22/12/2024 18:03

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:57

Yes - since the death of her husband who presumably took her shopping on Christmas Eve up until then!!!

I think it's awful to refuse this courtesy to your bereaved mother.

We don't know that. I've read all the OPs posts and she hasn't said that.

Why is it awful to refuse 'this courtesy' on Christmas Eve, but offer the day before and be refused by his mother. I think that is what is awful.

I would not dream of being so demanding of my adult DCs/their partners time. It's selfish.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 18:05

VoodooRajin · 22/12/2024 18:03

Apparently 55% of over 65 year olds online grocery shop

Which leaves 45% who don't!

I work with one or two women in their early 60s who never shop online for anything!! They won't even try, and they struggle with tech in work too. Personally I shop for everything online!

CurlyhairedAssassin · 22/12/2024 18:05

Ihopeyouhavent · 22/12/2024 17:41

Is she not "family". You are the reason i'm dreading having a DIL.

If you were the OP''s MIL you would have been invited on Christmas Day, like most MILs are to their adult children's houses. You also would have refused because you think the grandchildren are too noisy and you want to do it your own way. Are you planning on being that difficult when you become a grandparent?

CovertPiggery · 22/12/2024 18:05

Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 13:55

I’m showing dh this thread and he said that he does have guilt as he knows she loves going with him and yet he also wants to spend more time with the dc while they are still little. He feels pulled between both of us ‘acting in a very similar way for two women who claim to not be like the other’ and that he’s contemplating just taking the dc out himself to the park and turning his phone off as he’s had enough.

Might take some time to reflect now so will be back later perhaps

I think he's being unfair there.

He said he didn't want to do it, but was being guilted into it.

He needs to own his own feelings and tell his mum he doesn't want to do it because he wants to spend the day with his young children.

It sounds like he's planning to blame it on you with his mum.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 18:06

Extiainoiapeial · 22/12/2024 18:03

We don't know that. I've read all the OPs posts and she hasn't said that.

Why is it awful to refuse 'this courtesy' on Christmas Eve, but offer the day before and be refused by his mother. I think that is what is awful.

I would not dream of being so demanding of my adult DCs/their partners time. It's selfish.

And I would not dream of preventing my DH to take his mother to do her Christmas grocery shopping at a time of her choosing.

AlexisP90 · 22/12/2024 18:06

Livelovebehappy · 22/12/2024 18:01

As many posters have already said, it’s a decision your dh needs to make. On his own. Sounds like he’s piggy in the middle being pulled one way and the other, and is being controlled by both you and his mum. If i was him, next year I’d take myself off on Xmas eve to do something for himself instead of being ordered around around like a child.

If I was DH I think I would just bugger off somewhere alone too!

This is up to DH and MIL to discuss.

If it were me I would be a little pissed off but I would say to DH it's up to him but to try and plan it so he isn't gone all day.

Nice thing to do regardless of MIL BEING 22 OR 91 but the fact here is imo OP should stay out of it.

Not trying to sound harsh but it sounds like DH is just getting ear bashings from everyone and needs to have a backbone and say this is what I want to fucking do and that's that.

LoveRicePudding · 22/12/2024 18:07

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:51

Not to the complete exclusion of the woman who gave birth to you and reared you. Your mother is close family ffs!

I'm guessing this is MIL's tradition over the years and she wants to keep that up because that's what has always worked for her. It's only a few hours.

The man has his own family and children. They are his priority. His mother can pick any other day, she was offered other options and doesn't want, she insists on one thing she clearly sees nobody else enjoys but her.
What kind of tradition is one which only one sides enjoy but everyone else really doesn't like?

PrincessofWells · 22/12/2024 18:08

Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 12:24

It takes hours and I want us to have Xmas eve as a family

His mother is your family.

Deja321 · 22/12/2024 18:08

CurlyhairedAssassin · 22/12/2024 17:54

Why does her tradition trump OP and her husband being able to create their own? The MIL could live another 20 years. OP's children will be grown up by then. Is this what Christmas Eve is going to be for the next 20 years? Everyone sitting waiting for Dad to come home from running round after his mother because she refuses to do it any way but hers?

It's just the morning. Op has Christmas eve afternoon and evening with him. It's also a good example to set to the children, seeing their dad help his mum.

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