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Not to let dh take MIL food shopping on Xmas eve

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Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 12:20

Every year we prompt MIL about what a good idea it would be to book an online delivery. Every year she says ‘oh no - I like to pick my own fresh things the day before!’
Every year she then asks dh to take her. It takes AGES because she wants to look at everything and chat to everyone. It takes Dh away from me and the dc on Xmas eve and I find it irritating.

This year it’s been no different we told her please book an online delivery as we have plans this year we can’t take you shopping. She didn’t.
We offered to add anything she needed to our delivery due on 23rd. Not good enough, she as usual wants to pick her own things.

We have all come down with an awful cold/flu and she’s called dh to try to arrange to
go food shopping on Tuesday !!!! He is saying he feels he has to I’ve told him categorically no. That he can’t as if we aren’t all better I just want to rest and if we are all better I want to do something with the dc. She can get a taxi. AIBU to put my foot down ?

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wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:23

latetothefisting · 22/12/2024 17:22

It's not much of a social event if half the attendees don't want to be there!

If she wants to go at a time when things haven't run out she could go today, or on the 23rd. As has been offered.

The DGC probably are noisy, most small children are! That doesn't mean most grandparents just don't bother to see them! Let me get this right....you'd rather toddlers take medication they don't need so they can be trundled round to the house of a woman who finds them annoying and can't be arsed to come and see them even if her DS picks her up and takes her home?

A few hours shopping on Christmas Eve with someone who has been guilty tripped into coming isn't going to alleviate long-term loneliness. Having a good relationship with your family, i.e. not actively insulting your DIL and making the effort to occasionally see your GC, might. It's been more than 4 years since the FIL passed away. If the MIL doesn't want to adapt to her circumstances she could end up living miserably for another 30 years. That's on her, not her DS.

Edited

Hard disagree.

CautiousLurker01 · 22/12/2024 17:24

Can see both sides. I think as this happens every year, it is up to your DH to manage it. Perhaps he can agree that he does 10am-1pm shopping with her and you get the rest of the day with him?

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:25

thepariscrimefiles · 22/12/2024 17:14

How on earth did she steal him? He sees a lot of her and does her garden and DIY.

The OP is controlling his actions.

And so he should, if he's any kind of a decent son. That's what decent people do for their parents.

Anonymouseposter · 22/12/2024 17:27

I am in my 70s and I have been widowed for four years. I don't have much sympathy for the MIL at all. I think she's very selfish and unless she has health issues that haven't been mentioned, she should be able to sort out her own shopping and put it away.
I don't understand how anyone would regard shoving a trolley round a rammed Tesco while suffering from a bad cold a "memory making" exercise. I would not be remembering it with fondness.
I loved my own Mum who died at the age of 97, I miss her and would like to be able to chat with her. I would not, however, "give anything" to be back pushing her wheelchair around a crowded supermarket while she hummed and aahed about her choices. It involved slow breathing and mindfulness techniques to stop myself from snapping at her.
Christmas is a nostalgic time and its difficult when you're bereaved but at 66 if the MIL is living a sad and empty life it's partly her own choice.
She sounds prematurely dependant and doesn't even enjoy playing with the grandchildren.
That said OP is wrong to tell her husband what to do, its up to him. She and the children can watch a film or do an activity without him if he chooses to go. Its only half a day and he will be with them for most of Christmas. Many people work on Christmas Eve anyway.
MIL is very selfish, Op is a bit selfish. Drop the rope OP, don't let anyone see that it bothers you. Your husband isn't a bone and you and your MIL aren't dogs.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:28

SnappyCroc · 22/12/2024 17:10

OP, I don't understand why your DH gets to spend significant amounts of time with his mother WITHOUT HIS KIDS.

How does that happen? Christmas Eve? Boxing Day?

I honestly don't know many parents in this situation. Most of us are PARENTING OUR KIDS, if we're not working. If we see our families, the kids come.

If I see my parents, it is WITH MY KIDS except on the very rare occasion I've booked a babysitter or DH has them by himself because we're doing something child-unsuitable (I'm accompanying them to a medical appointment or stuff like that).

He needs to say to his mother, "Yes, I'll take you shopping, but the kids will be coming soon and then we're going to this place afterwards with them, because I'm not working, it's Christmas Eve and they're my responsibility because @Bookitonlinenextyear is under the weather."

Because OP and the kids are allergic to MIL's cats, and MIL is allergic to the noisy GC. Which is a huge shame, as they appear to only have only grandparent.

Boredlass · 22/12/2024 17:28

It amazes me that on MN men aren’t allowed to do anything for their mother or they are a mummy’s boy. There is no way the replies would be so scathing if it was the wife who was helping her mother on Christmas Eve.

Extiainoiapeial · 22/12/2024 17:28

Feelingathomenow · 22/12/2024 17:16

Blimey, talk about the season of goodwill. It’s his mum. She will be of a generation where Christmas food was a treat, to shop for it, was a treat. It part of the ritual, when food was fresher not stuffed full of preservatives and you wanted it as fresh as possible. I’m not that old and can remember picking up the ordered meat at the butchers, queuing up outside a shop at 7am with the line stretching up the street to get some stuff at the bakers etc. your mum thinks this in now something her and her son get to do - their Christmas ritual. If he goes first thing you have plenty of time after. I hope your future daughter/son in laws are a bit more understanding when you want to do something meaningful with your children at Christmas for a couple of hours.

BTW all the tea in China wouldn’t get me to do an online shop at Christmas. I think the “food shop” is a part of Christmas

I'm of that generation and nothing could be further from the truth. Love Christmas, hate food shopping especially at Christmas.

SwordToFlamethrower · 22/12/2024 17:29

Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 12:27

We offered to get anything she wants with our shopping she declined.

She wants to do it herself, nothing wrong with that.

latetothefisting · 22/12/2024 17:30

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:23

Hard disagree.

with what? that being taken to asda by your son for a few hours on christmas eve will magically cure loneliness, but making the effort to spend time with your extended family over Christmas (and the year generally) won't?

Or with the view that at some point people have to take responsibility for their own happiness?

Or that more food will be available on the 24th than the 23rd?

Not really a very useful comment....

WhistPie · 22/12/2024 17:30

Stillherestillpraying · 22/12/2024 12:49

BECAUSE SHE DOESN’T WANT TO DO ONLINE. It’s not just about the items. It’s the whole process of getting them, wandering about having a look.
For you shopping may just be a case of click click click pay, but for many older people it’s a huge part of their week and i deed their Christmas.
You are being selfish. Let her have an hour in the shops and spend time with her son.

I was in & out of the shops in 20 mins as soon as they opened this morning because shopping at this time of year is a circle of hell. And in a couple of years time, at the OP's MIL's age I expect to be spending the largest part of my week at work and socialising with fellow shoppers is definitely not on my radar!

thepariscrimefiles · 22/12/2024 17:30

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:25

The OP is controlling his actions.

And so he should, if he's any kind of a decent son. That's what decent people do for their parents.

I'm 66 and I pay for a gardener. My adult children are busy with work and their families so why would I expect them to do things that I can organise and pay for?

FrivolousKitchenRollUse · 22/12/2024 17:30

SwordToFlamethrower · 22/12/2024 17:29

She wants to do it herself, nothing wrong with that.

She's not doing it fully by herself though is she?

SnappyCroc · 22/12/2024 17:30

Kids are really useful when shopping in busy stores, at least when they get to around 5/6 or so, as they can dodge through small gaps between people and make loud comments like "Mummy, that lady's been standing in front of the desserts for AGES and we only need to choose ONE".

I frequently send my older one into gaps I can't fit it to fetch "the green one" or "that big one there", if asking politely to get through hasn't worked. He has no compunction in ducking his way in and then I just say with faux sincerity "LittleCroc! Watch out for other people!"

You'd be doing both your DH and MIL a favour to send the kids with them.

RaininSummer · 22/12/2024 17:31

Extiainoiapeial · 22/12/2024 17:28

I'm of that generation and nothing could be further from the truth. Love Christmas, hate food shopping especially at Christmas.

Utter rubbish. I'm almost the same age and yes I make a good Christmas spread with home cooked food but definitely didn't ever do what you describe. My mother may have done.

Flossflower · 22/12/2024 17:32

m00rfarm · 22/12/2024 16:31

My point is that his wife does not get to decide what her DH does. Two hours or even three on Christmas Eve in the morning is not going to cause so many problems. He is only seeing it as a problem because he is being told it is a problem. And it should NOT be an issue. My mum died this year as well - let him make his mum a priority for a few hours - you never know what is around the corner. Anyway - my son works all Christmas Eve - as do many men (and women) so it really is a non issue as far as I can see.

Edited

The wife does get to decide that she doesn’t want to be left with the young children on her own when she is not feeling great.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:32

TenLittleLadybirds · 22/12/2024 17:21

I had mixed feelings about this until I saw she’s only bloody 66!!!! I was picturing a little old lady who couldn’t fathom online shopping.

Do you think she’s being rigid and stuck in her ways or do you think it’s more that she wants to spend that time with her son? I imagine she likes having that 1:1 time with him on Xmas eve.

In my opinion you are definitely not being unreasonable

I know people that age who wouldn't be capable of doing an online shop!!

I always shop online now because I hate supermarkets but it does have some drawbacks too. This woman wants to pick out her own goods, most likely selecting the most well-dated.

Extiainoiapeial · 22/12/2024 17:32

SwordToFlamethrower · 22/12/2024 17:29

She wants to do it herself, nothing wrong with that.

Go on the 23rd as has been offered then!

SnappyCroc · 22/12/2024 17:33

Boredlass · 22/12/2024 17:28

It amazes me that on MN men aren’t allowed to do anything for their mother or they are a mummy’s boy. There is no way the replies would be so scathing if it was the wife who was helping her mother on Christmas Eve.

The wife would probably take the kids with her while her partner was enjoying some peace and quiet.

I don't know any women who regularly abandon their kids to spend time with their mothers.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:34

thepariscrimefiles · 22/12/2024 17:30

I'm 66 and I pay for a gardener. My adult children are busy with work and their families so why would I expect them to do things that I can organise and pay for?

Good for you. Maybe the OP's MIL can't afford that?

LoveRicePudding · 22/12/2024 17:35

I agree with you @Bookitonlinenextyear . She's 66, not 86. She can do her own shopping and get a taxi.
Christmas should be about the family being together, not one partner trotting off to help someone who's making up excuses to waste other people's time. Your MIL should get life, especially as your DH doesn't really seem to enjoy it.

MadamDicey · 22/12/2024 17:35

Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 12:20

Every year we prompt MIL about what a good idea it would be to book an online delivery. Every year she says ‘oh no - I like to pick my own fresh things the day before!’
Every year she then asks dh to take her. It takes AGES because she wants to look at everything and chat to everyone. It takes Dh away from me and the dc on Xmas eve and I find it irritating.

This year it’s been no different we told her please book an online delivery as we have plans this year we can’t take you shopping. She didn’t.
We offered to add anything she needed to our delivery due on 23rd. Not good enough, she as usual wants to pick her own things.

We have all come down with an awful cold/flu and she’s called dh to try to arrange to
go food shopping on Tuesday !!!! He is saying he feels he has to I’ve told him categorically no. That he can’t as if we aren’t all better I just want to rest and if we are all better I want to do something with the dc. She can get a taxi. AIBU to put my foot down ?

You are being mean and selfish ! It's his mum !
Some people would give anything to take their mum food shopping .
One day he won't be able to

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:35

latetothefisting · 22/12/2024 17:30

with what? that being taken to asda by your son for a few hours on christmas eve will magically cure loneliness, but making the effort to spend time with your extended family over Christmas (and the year generally) won't?

Or with the view that at some point people have to take responsibility for their own happiness?

Or that more food will be available on the 24th than the 23rd?

Not really a very useful comment....

And yours was "useful" why?

thepariscrimefiles · 22/12/2024 17:36

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:28

Because OP and the kids are allergic to MIL's cats, and MIL is allergic to the noisy GC. Which is a huge shame, as they appear to only have only grandparent.

MIL isn't allergic to the noisy grandchildren. She just isn't interested in them and isn't bothered about building a relationship with them.

Saying 'they appear to only have one grandparent' sounds as though you don't really believe this. As MIL's DH has died and OP was a looked after child, she is the only grandparents these children have. It's a pity she isn't a better one.

They probably are noisy as they are small children and it comes with the territory. I would be willing to bet that she doesn't enjoy her son's attention being on the children rather than on her.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 22/12/2024 17:36

Is this something that your MIL did for her own mother on Christmas Eve? If not, she has no right to demand this of your DH.

I also wonder if MIL's manipulative selfish ways are one of the reasons that one of her children emigrated to Australia.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 17:38

LoveRicePudding · 22/12/2024 17:35

I agree with you @Bookitonlinenextyear . She's 66, not 86. She can do her own shopping and get a taxi.
Christmas should be about the family being together, not one partner trotting off to help someone who's making up excuses to waste other people's time. Your MIL should get life, especially as your DH doesn't really seem to enjoy it.

Who would enjoy it? Other than the MIL here!!

You don't know whether she has health issues either. MIL is family too. She lost her husband only 4 years ago. Grief affects people in different ways and Christmas can be very poignant for them.

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