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Is this enough for Christmas??

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FootballGrump · 21/12/2024 23:44

Every year, “Father Christmas” brings our children one gift. One gift only… it could be a scooter or a lego set or a Tonybox or similar, they are still young and their taste is not extravagant.
Both sets of grandparents also get one gift per child that goes under the tree, typically something smaller (a dolly, a toy car etc).
In total, each child will have 3 or max 4 gifts to open on Christmas day. One “main” gift plus 2-3 smaller ones from close relatives. Plus a stocking full of bits and bobs.

We think this is ample and our children are delighted with it. Most people these days seem to spoil their children way more so I guess my AIBU is regarding what to do now my eldest is aware enough to start comparing with friends.
Some friends have hinted they think we don’t give our children enough toys.
I disagree, I think they are very fortunate and I already feel they don’t have enough respect for their toys (breaking things, losing the small parts, not putting stuff away). I remember being really attached to my toys and treasuring them, I would like to see more of that in our household.

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AnotherCleftMum · 22/12/2024 01:03

Assuming that the big present is one they want it sounds absolutely fine.

We're another family who have got into the habit of buying toys/books etc throughout the year so there isn't the need to give loads of extras at Christmas. Especially when he was younger and toys are needed to help a child's development we weren't going to keep something back for several months when it would be useful now.

I haven't counted but he will probably get 4 or 5 presents off us and then twice as much again off other family and friends. It will feel like a lot to him when he opens it.

I would only buy your children additional presents if you had found it really difficult to choose between two presents and had the money to buy and the space to keep both.

Jeschara · 22/12/2024 01:05

On the fence here,but on balance I would add a wrapped pair of PJs maybe art's and crafts, not big presents but something to open that's more than after the big present. It would make them up to five or six.

SnowFrogJelly · 22/12/2024 01:07

Stocking presents should not be wrapped..

SavingTheBestTillLast · 22/12/2024 01:08

SwanRivers · 22/12/2024 00:56

That's all well and good but I was talking to the OP.

We do this @SwanRivers . Obviously we didn’t buy clothes for them at Christmas when they were small but we do now buy necessities and have done since they were early teens
so toiletries
socks
clothes
trainers / shoes

now they are at Uni they get
large marmite
large nutella
large Italian dressing one son likes
toiletries and set of toothbrushes
one son has asked for a tongue cleaner and some black and white 35 mm film

All necessities

CuriousGeorge80 · 22/12/2024 01:09

You do what is right for you and your family OP. Others do what is right for them and their family. Usually this flows from our own childhood experiences. Christmas is what you make it for your family, not what other people think you should do!

AliasGrape · 22/12/2024 01:21

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/12/2024 00:45

I know someone who spends an absolute fortune on Xmas for her primary aged kids, think atleast £1000 each. She moans like hell that her kids demand more and more stuff and are always breaking their toys and gadgets. She sees no link between going totally OTT at Xmas to the point where they just see stuff as disposable, and their behaviour.

I think you have it right to be honest.

And to those saying it "sounds shit", well I am absolutely on the ropes financially this year and my kids are getting two cheap presents each because my budget is so low. So thanks for making me feel crap that they will be getting a shit Xmas.

I’m sure your kids will love their gifts.

I didn’t say it sounded shit but I did say a bit joyless - but to be clear it’s not the amount of presents that makes me feel that, more the sort of reluctance that comes across from the OP. Someone else said it reads like OP resents the frivolity and I think that’s what I was responding too as well. Giving the child a small number of gifts when you could afford a little more, doing it because you think it’s the morally superior choice and expecting them to be so incredibly grateful that they treasure their few gifts for the foreseeable.

I know that’s probably an exaggeration but that is a little bit the sense that came across when I was reading the post. And I think it’s very different to giving a small number of gifts because that’s the most you can do, but giving more willingly and not as some sort of moral lesson.

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/12/2024 01:29

AliasGrape · 22/12/2024 01:21

I’m sure your kids will love their gifts.

I didn’t say it sounded shit but I did say a bit joyless - but to be clear it’s not the amount of presents that makes me feel that, more the sort of reluctance that comes across from the OP. Someone else said it reads like OP resents the frivolity and I think that’s what I was responding too as well. Giving the child a small number of gifts when you could afford a little more, doing it because you think it’s the morally superior choice and expecting them to be so incredibly grateful that they treasure their few gifts for the foreseeable.

I know that’s probably an exaggeration but that is a little bit the sense that came across when I was reading the post. And I think it’s very different to giving a small number of gifts because that’s the most you can do, but giving more willingly and not as some sort of moral lesson.

Thank you, and the "a bit shit" wasnt you no, and it wasnt you I referring to in my post. Should have made that clear, sorry.

devilspawn · 22/12/2024 01:34

Depends on age of kids, there are plenty who just love seeing their name on a present and unwrapping it, doesn't matter what it is or even if just a household item or a banana wrapped up. If they're that age they just want a big pile, the bigger the better, but you don't need to spend much at all when they don't care what's inside.

SavingTheBestTillLast · 22/12/2024 01:39

PyongyangKipperbang · 22/12/2024 00:45

I know someone who spends an absolute fortune on Xmas for her primary aged kids, think atleast £1000 each. She moans like hell that her kids demand more and more stuff and are always breaking their toys and gadgets. She sees no link between going totally OTT at Xmas to the point where they just see stuff as disposable, and their behaviour.

I think you have it right to be honest.

And to those saying it "sounds shit", well I am absolutely on the ropes financially this year and my kids are getting two cheap presents each because my budget is so low. So thanks for making me feel crap that they will be getting a shit Xmas.

Well said Pyong
Im surprised by a lot of comments on this thread. Usually MNs would be shocked at giving kids masses of presents and start talking about how spoilt they are.
This thread seems the reverse to the norm.
I wish you and your kids a lovely Christmas!

SavingTheBestTillLast · 22/12/2024 01:42

devilspawn · 22/12/2024 01:34

Depends on age of kids, there are plenty who just love seeing their name on a present and unwrapping it, doesn't matter what it is or even if just a household item or a banana wrapped up. If they're that age they just want a big pile, the bigger the better, but you don't need to spend much at all when they don't care what's inside.

My boys just loved the boxes when they were small. 😆

SchoolDilemma17 · 22/12/2024 01:45

FootballGrump · 22/12/2024 00:47

We buy lots of books all year round.
We have always considered books to be in a different category, a bit like arts & crafts supplies.

Birthdays they get several gifts because we buy them something & they also have family and friends visiting for cake & party on the day.

I think they get more than enough throughout the year. The question here was more about how we balance things for Christmas day to be special.

I do buy books for Christmas. Not standard fiction ones, for older child lovely special science books or National Geographic books, or special encyclopaedias. Some of them are books that she will hopefully treasure for a long time. My kids also get practical things like pyjamas, or clothes, and not “just” toys. We also give vouchers or tickets to special events for older child eg uncle gaver cirque du Soleil tickets. Generally I agree with you though not to overwhelm kids with toys and there is an insane amount of overspending on plastic tat going on.

Kitkat1523 · 22/12/2024 01:49

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purpleblue2 · 22/12/2024 01:55

I personally think it sounds pathetic and miserable I try to atleast get 10 presents from myself her dad gets her around the same a little bit less maybe and then my mum gets her 2/3 my other family get her 1-2 so she will end up with 20/25 presents although it was her birthday 10 days ago and she got 25 presents then too but they were all Barbie w e princess related this time it’s scooter babies baby items etc etc.

Twototwo15 · 22/12/2024 02:02

That’s what we used to get and it was enough. I remember being thrilled with the stocking full of smaller bits and pieces. Under the tree was one bigger or main present from out parents and also a couple from grandparents and aunt.

Aquestionneeded · 22/12/2024 02:02

FootballGrump · 22/12/2024 00:14

Wow. I’m really surprised by the number of people on the thread thinking it’s shit or miserable, or not enough at any rate.
I want Christmas to be magical for my children but I guess I also want them to put less weight on the materialistic stuff and more on the Christmas spirit, the being together bit with friends and family and cooking and good food going on, baking, music, etc.
We are comfortable financially so money is not the issue here. It’s more getting the equation right between making it magical without overwhelming them, spoiling them too much, and buying a whole bunch of stuff that will eventually end up in landfill. Maybe I am a bit sanctimonious, I recognise I totally into being more green even at Christmas time!

I like the idea one poster had of wrapping some
stuff they would otherwise get anyway (like clothes or art supplies etc). That will require us being a bit more thoughtful in the lead up to Christmas. Probably next year

Just because children open up multiple presents such as chocs, cheap board games, hair ties, etc will not make them materialistic or unappreciative of the meaning of Christmas.

Your very own example of having a wonderful time of sharing memories with family will be what they remember. It is up to you to model that and that's what they will remember it isn't about how many gifts they receive. They really will not become materialistic individuals by recieving them, if you get the family time right.

They might also be able to say "oh wow, I got a selection box, card, game, hair tye, pjs (insert your preferred items here)" when they are in the playground rather than just the few gifts they got. Most kids will have several stocking fillers of no consequence (to the parents) that they will mention.

mondaytosunday · 22/12/2024 02:07

I don't remember ever knowing the amount of presents my friends got. Nor do I remember any complaints from my kids. Sure there may be a 'Johnny got a Switch for Christmas' but other than that they seemed happy with their gifts.
And I'd never comment on the amount a friend gave their kids - how rude!

SavingTheBestTillLast · 22/12/2024 02:10

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I just can’t believe some of these comments

Nina1013 · 22/12/2024 02:15

You do you. There’s no right or wrong.

I enjoy nothing more than buying for my daughter - I will hold my hands up and say I buy everything I can think of that she would like. I do it because I love the joy of giving, and I would hate to restrict myself to only buying X number of presents. But I don’t do it for show or for social media or to keep up with anything or anyone else, I just do what works for us and you should do the same.

RestYeMerryGentlewomen · 22/12/2024 02:27

We did something very similar, main gift, a couple more and a stocking, plus a few gifts from relatives it is quite a large stocking and though DS is an adult we still fill it. This year it has PJ and pants plus beers and lots of snacks.

That main gift has varied, one year it was everything to build a very fast gaming PC. It cost 1.5k about 12 years ago.

AConcernedCitizen · 22/12/2024 02:32

In our house it was always about the joy of coming downstairs to see big piles of gifts, a sleigh full of prezzies, stuff under the tree, etc.

To this day mine and my partner's families do morning prezzies (to each other and from Santa for the kids), table prezzies with dinner and family presents while everyone is together either before/after food.

Piles of wrapping paper, happy kids and good vibes. It's the one time of the year everyone gets spoiled, might as well make the most of it!

SouthLondonMum22 · 22/12/2024 02:35

We go OTT at Christmas. There's no right or wrong.

SavingTheBestTillLast · 22/12/2024 02:42

AConcernedCitizen · 22/12/2024 02:32

In our house it was always about the joy of coming downstairs to see big piles of gifts, a sleigh full of prezzies, stuff under the tree, etc.

To this day mine and my partner's families do morning prezzies (to each other and from Santa for the kids), table prezzies with dinner and family presents while everyone is together either before/after food.

Piles of wrapping paper, happy kids and good vibes. It's the one time of the year everyone gets spoiled, might as well make the most of it!

You have a sleigh. Does Santa leave Rudolf too 😳

scorpiogirly · 22/12/2024 02:48

SavingTheBestTillLast · 22/12/2024 02:10

I just can’t believe some of these comments

I've thought about this thread for a while tonight. I have to be honest, and each to their own, but I actually feel sorry for them coming down to about 4 presents on Christmas morning.

ThatEllie · 22/12/2024 02:49

FootballGrump · 22/12/2024 00:41

Maybe I need to lighten up a bit.
My thinking process is that if you give children many toys all at once they tend to value and appreciate each individual toy a little less (certainly when they’re in that 2 to 8 age range). Hence my comments about giving less and wanting my children to treasure their toys more.
In terms of bigger picture our children do get gifts from other friends and family but that gets opened when it’s gifted, so typically before Christmas day. I also buy Christmassy books at the beginning of December so we can read Christmas stories throughout the month of December.
The stockings are full of little things from chocolates to card games, crafts, little curiosities and & accessories for the main toys or existing toys.
On the whole, everyone seems happy for now, so we might just stick with it for this year and focus extra hard on doing other “Christmas only” things they’ll love.
@IdleIdleIdle you rightly pointed out that there is nothing from the parents. Maybe we need to rectify that as it could look odd to them, especially as we are starting to teach them about gifting, helping them buy or make things for their teachers, grandparents and each other.

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You buy Christmas books so that you can read stories all month? So they hear stories about Christmas that include children getting presents from family and Santa, and that probably have lovely illustrations of trees and gifts, but then their own Christmas is just three or so presents each?

That’s… wow. That’s certainly not something I’d ever do to a child.

TheGirlWithGlassFeet · 22/12/2024 02:51

I think it's great OP. We do similar- 3-4 gifts. I struggle as always had a pile growing up and equate that to being magical. It's not though it's blind consumerism that's destroying the planet. Looking back it's not the toys I remember that made Christmas magical - it was everything else and being together as a family.