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AIBU?

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Is this innocent? How would you feel?

227 replies

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 12:19

So, I'll start this by saying my partner likes to drink. Sometimes excessively at the weekend. When he does, he's like a different person. Snappy, nasty and says some horrible things that he can't recollect the next day.

This Friday just gone, he finished work at lunchtime. Had 4-5 pints at the pub. We had already arranged to go out for tea so I picked the children up (10, 7) and he met us there. Had a few more pints during the meal. We had a minor disagreement about something trivial and he shouted and stormed off, left us all in the restaurant. Me and the kids drove home, he went to another pub.

To cut a long story short, he didn't come home. Stayed in the pub until 10pm and went to his friends house (he says) and carried on drinking. He turned up home at midday the next day, having walked home 7 miles from his friends as the taxi refused to take him.

I was obviously mad that he didn't tell me where he was, or that he didn't come home. I was out all morning taking the children to their hobbies but when I got back he was apologising profusely for speaking to me that way and not coming home. I forgave him but then all weekend since something just didn't feel right. I felt like he wasn't telling me the truth.

I started to ask some questions. I asked who he was at the pub with for 3 hours before going to his friends, he said nobody. Didn't speak to anyone at all, just sat and watched the football. For some reason I just didn't believe him. So last night when he fell asleep, for the first time in our relationship, I checked his phone. Nothing on messages, or calls. I checked deleted messages and there it was. A chain of messages from Friday starting from 8pm - 1am. First one at 8pm is "Hi it's Tina, this is my number xx" "Where have you gone?" he replies "to my friend xxxx house, why don't you come here?" she then asks him to pick her up but he says he's drank too much and to get a cab. She doesn't reply right away so he texts her and says "trying to call you but it's going to voicemail, are you coming or not?" The messages end there.

I confronted him, he says this is just a friend he knew from the pub years and years ago, not seen her for ages and that is innocent, she's got a partner. Not much of a friend because he doesn't know her surname, or how old she is, just casually drank together 12 years ago.

AIBU to think that something else has gone off? How would you all feel if your partner did this and you found these messages? Please go easy on me, feeling pretty vulnerable and heartbroken right now. We bought our dream house together 9 months ago. xx

OP posts:
RhaenysRocks · 17/12/2024 12:22

See if this was me I'd be so blown away by the general gist of the evening that Tina would be irrelevant. I wouldn't be raising my kids with someone who thinks ANY of that is ok. But it sounds like you're not all that bothered or it's not unusual for him to be a nasty, selfish belligerent drunk. Single parenting, especially at those ages is not as hard as it sounds. I'd be quietly planning for Christmas 2025 to be a family of three.

OrigamiOwls · 17/12/2024 12:22

I would not be impressed for many reasons... The way he spoke to me, not coming home and that without even starting on the mysterious Tina.
Sometimes on here I'm think people can be a bit quick to jump to conclusions. But even if he did vaguely know her, when is he inviting her around his mates house?
Alarm bells are ringing.

IchiNiSanShiGo · 17/12/2024 12:24

He obviously knows he’s done wrong, or he wouldn’t have deleted the messages. There’s every chance nothing actually happened, and that she is indeed an old friend. However, it does sound like there may have been some dodgy intent there.

Weyohweyoh · 17/12/2024 12:25

He’s treated you appallingly and Tina would be the icing on the cake for me. Sounds to me like she’s someone he met in the pub and invited back to carry on partying. I wouldn’t believe his excuses and there’s no excuse for his behaviour towards you and your children.

Annabella92 · 17/12/2024 12:31

He shouted at you and left you and the children in the restaurant? I'd be out over that alone

Mischance · 17/12/2024 12:34

Stop questioning him; just leave him. He is not partner or parent material - you need to cut your losses and move on.

thepariscrimefiles · 17/12/2024 12:37

His behaviour even before the information about 'Tina' was unforgivable. Tina is just the icing on a very shit cake that it's your husband's treatment of you and his children.

NotParticularly · 17/12/2024 12:41

Tina wouldn’t be my chief concern. Who has four or five pints in the afternoon when they know they’re meeting their young children for an early dinner, drinks several more pints over dinner, gets aggressively drunk and storms off?

And the thing that strikes me is you’re so injured to it, you don’t sound that bothered, and are focusing on a potential infidelity?

JLou08 · 17/12/2024 12:41

I'd believe it was just a friend and innocent. I think that's the least of your worries anyway. Who has 4-5 pints in the pub before a family meal with their children. You've also said he gets nasty when drunk but he is still drinking. Sounds like he treats you and your children like shit. It wouldn't matter to me if he cheated, I'd want rid of him anyway.

TallulahBetty · 17/12/2024 12:41

I didn't read past the first paragraph. DUMP.

Nogaxeh · 17/12/2024 12:44

I would not compete with Tina for the affections of your partner.

He deleted the messages being a guilty conscience. But even if Tina didn't exist he's not behaving in an acceptable way.

No-one deserves to be treated the way he has treated you.

DotComMillionaire · 17/12/2024 12:47

Annabella92 · 17/12/2024 12:31

He shouted at you and left you and the children in the restaurant? I'd be out over that alone

This.

BamboleoQueen · 17/12/2024 13:02

You should have considered your relationship over long before Tina entered the chat.

Doseofreality · 17/12/2024 13:04

I think you’ve got bigger problems than wondering who Tina is.

Your OH’s drinking around your children for one!

Shoxfordian · 17/12/2024 13:04

If its so innocent then why delete it? Dump him, he doesn't care about you

MadeForThis · 17/12/2024 13:05

He's not good for you. Or good to your family.

Rickrolypoly · 17/12/2024 13:08

I was ready to leave him after your opening paragraph. I was thinking "just hope there are no kids involved", but alas.
You probably won't, but please leave this pig of a man before you waste anymore of your life with an abusive alcoholic

Stormyweatheroutthere · 17/12/2024 13:12

My dh picked us up from a relative's house. Hadn't realised he was drunk. He drove to a desolate car park and left us there.. Told me to drive the dc home. I can't drive... I filed for divorce the next day..
Sadly your family is also second best to his drinking.

Get rid op. Or face worse.. Much worse. Ime.

FuriousPoodle · 17/12/2024 13:14

Why did you take the kids to the restaurant knowing he’d be pissed up? Poor kids witnessing that shit show.

DoYouReally · 17/12/2024 13:17

Why are you focused on who Tina is?

Focus on the fact you have an abusive, untrustworthy, alcoholic who shouts at you and your children. Why are you subjecting your kids to such crap?

NunyaBeeswax · 17/12/2024 13:17

Every day I visit Mumsnet I'm astounded at the shit women will tolerate. I don't understand it.

"Oh he drinks excessively some weekend s and gets nasty" .... Like that's what decent people do

"He does coke sometimes..." Wtf

"He goes out every weekend leaving me with the kids but he's a good dad" is he fuck.

I mean, I'm being blunt OP I know but I hope you can open your eyes and realise that you're with a cunt, a lot of women seem to be, there's better than this out there..

Now maybe my bar is too high, I don't know, but I'll be so gle for the rest of my life before I tolerate ANY thing like what you've just casually described and are wondering if it's fine and dandy... NO IT IS NOT.

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/12/2024 13:18

Why are you with this horrible man? You need to get your children away from him.

ginasevern · 17/12/2024 13:20

Your husband is an alcoholic but it has become normalised in your head. It is not normal, it is dangerous and his treatment of you and the kids will get progressively worse. I speak through bitter experience. I suggest you make arrangements to get out of this toxic environment. As for Tina, she's welcome to him.

bigkidatheart · 17/12/2024 13:21

There are no messages after "trying to call you but it's going to voicemail, are you coming or not?" makes it sound like he didn't go

Are there any calls to his friend or messages to his friend whose house he supposedly stayed at?

It could be completely innocent - not his behaviour, i'm not addressing that - i've bumped into people I used to drink with 20 years ago and it was like only seen them yesterday and ended up getting carried away and drinking with them until the early hours.

I'm trying to be devils advocate here.

Allthehorsesintheworld · 17/12/2024 13:23

Tina is the least of your problems.
No one likes a nasty drunk and to behave like that in front of his children is unforgivable.
He has a relationship with alcohol he values far more than his relationship with you and his children.
He may apologise now but it won’t stay like this. Trust me, this could well descend into a living hell. Get out now.