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AIBU?

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Is this innocent? How would you feel?

227 replies

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 12:19

So, I'll start this by saying my partner likes to drink. Sometimes excessively at the weekend. When he does, he's like a different person. Snappy, nasty and says some horrible things that he can't recollect the next day.

This Friday just gone, he finished work at lunchtime. Had 4-5 pints at the pub. We had already arranged to go out for tea so I picked the children up (10, 7) and he met us there. Had a few more pints during the meal. We had a minor disagreement about something trivial and he shouted and stormed off, left us all in the restaurant. Me and the kids drove home, he went to another pub.

To cut a long story short, he didn't come home. Stayed in the pub until 10pm and went to his friends house (he says) and carried on drinking. He turned up home at midday the next day, having walked home 7 miles from his friends as the taxi refused to take him.

I was obviously mad that he didn't tell me where he was, or that he didn't come home. I was out all morning taking the children to their hobbies but when I got back he was apologising profusely for speaking to me that way and not coming home. I forgave him but then all weekend since something just didn't feel right. I felt like he wasn't telling me the truth.

I started to ask some questions. I asked who he was at the pub with for 3 hours before going to his friends, he said nobody. Didn't speak to anyone at all, just sat and watched the football. For some reason I just didn't believe him. So last night when he fell asleep, for the first time in our relationship, I checked his phone. Nothing on messages, or calls. I checked deleted messages and there it was. A chain of messages from Friday starting from 8pm - 1am. First one at 8pm is "Hi it's Tina, this is my number xx" "Where have you gone?" he replies "to my friend xxxx house, why don't you come here?" she then asks him to pick her up but he says he's drank too much and to get a cab. She doesn't reply right away so he texts her and says "trying to call you but it's going to voicemail, are you coming or not?" The messages end there.

I confronted him, he says this is just a friend he knew from the pub years and years ago, not seen her for ages and that is innocent, she's got a partner. Not much of a friend because he doesn't know her surname, or how old she is, just casually drank together 12 years ago.

AIBU to think that something else has gone off? How would you all feel if your partner did this and you found these messages? Please go easy on me, feeling pretty vulnerable and heartbroken right now. We bought our dream house together 9 months ago. xx

OP posts:
Wavescrashingonthebeach · 17/12/2024 14:34

Get rid get rid get rid.
It will be SO damaging to your DC to see him getting nasty all the time when he's had a drink.
Tina is irrelevant in all of this. He's a cunt. Suppose she just makes him a cunt with bells on.

trythisforsize · 17/12/2024 14:35

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 17/12/2024 14:32

Wow, I was feeling sympathetic towards you until this post because I assumed he was your children's father. You have subjected your poor children to this man for three years? If I were their father, I'd be absolutely furious at what you've exposed them to.

Oh shush now.

OP has seen the light now and can put everything right.

You don't see it until you see it.

Tahlbias · 17/12/2024 14:37

That's horrible and why is it in 'deleted' messages, if it was innocent??

H34th · 17/12/2024 14:38

I hope you stay on Mumsnet for longer because you do need a complete mindset change.

I promise after a few months you'll know for yourself the answer is 'LTB' after the first paragraph. And you'd probably smirk at the 'I confronted him' bit (sorry!).

Please keep this man away from your children. He's done you a huge favour by going to his mums'. Do not dare ask him to come back. Love your children better.

Diomi · 17/12/2024 14:45

If he was my partner, Tina would be more than welcome to him.

therealpatmustard · 17/12/2024 14:45

Tina is inconsequential in this situation as is the other woman he's definitely cheated with.

He's an alcoholic twat with zero empathy, retire yourself from being his doormat and put your children and yourself first.

This is utterly awful, he should have lost you at what seems like a pretty typical "4-5 pints" wtf!

Choux · 17/12/2024 14:49

He stayed at his mums last night after I confronted him, he's gone back home today whilst I've been at work and packed the rest of his things. Sent me a text saying it's the biggest mistake I've ever made causing a "scene" over this.

So he says you are the one who has made a mistake and you should be just accepting however he chooses to behave including excessive drinking, causing public scenes and probably cheating? What a catch. Not.

You might think you have a dream house but you have a nightmare life. Dump him, sell the house and buy yourself somewhere which can be a haven for you and your kids. That's a dream home and a dream life.

Richiewoo · 17/12/2024 14:50

Tina is the least of your worries. The biggest problem is your husband has a drinking problem.

ManhattanPopcorn · 17/12/2024 14:51

YOUR HUSBAND IS AN ALCOHOLIC!

That's really the beginning and end of the story.
The details are inconsequential.
Apologies for shouting.

Spangledangle · 17/12/2024 14:54

Is this what you hoped for from family life OP? Because you deserve more than this if it's not. I know this type of man, I grew up around them and I wish I could go back and tell the women in their lives that this isn't the way to live and that they deserve more.

thepariscrimefiles · 17/12/2024 14:54

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 14:22

Thanks everyone for your advice, luckily I won't need to contact him regarding the DC, they aren't his. My DC are my ex husband's, who I have an amicable relationship with. This waste of space was just my partner for the last 3 years. It's only really the house that we'll need to discuss.

He does want me to beg and ask for him back, because tbh that's what I've stupidly done in the past. It needs to stop now. I can't keep lowering myself like this. I've lost all of my confidence, I'm seeing a therapist and I'm a shell of what I was 3 years ago.

I'm 37, I was previously married for 10 years, in a stable happy relationship where we just drifted apart, no bad blood, just ended up like friends. Never got shouted at, trusted him completely, never disappeared after a row. Then I walk into this type of relationship, blinded by love (bombing) and ended up with the polar opposite.

My children deserve better than this, I deserve better than this and I need to start putting us first. They are lovely kids as well, I'm so so blessed to have 2 gorgeous, sweet, kind little souls.

The best thing you can do for your lovely children is to keep this gaslighting, alcoholic waste of space away from them. They don't have to see him ever again.

lto2019 · 17/12/2024 14:54

Even without the potential infidelity he is awful, abusive, addicted and neglectful.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 17/12/2024 14:55

Unfortunately I agree with the poster who can’t believe you would subject your kids to this. You met up with him after he’d already had 5 pints to sit and eat with the kids? To me it’s wholly unreasonable that you would have him around them when he’s this drunk, especially considering he then went on to drink more, shout and argue in front of them and storm off.

If you have daughters is this what you want them to think a normal relationship is like? If you have sons do you want them to think that it’s okay to act like this? The adults you bring into your kids lives will be their role models, good or bad. Right now this is the role model your kids have for what a man should be like so if you don’t want your kids to turn out like him or put up with a partner like him you’d better get rid of him fast. A lot of damage will have already been done if this is the unhealthy relationship dynamic they’re seeing but at least if you end it and show them that it’s not okay that will go some way to helping them realise it’s not okay to behave like he is.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 17/12/2024 14:57

trythisforsize · 17/12/2024 14:35

Oh shush now.

OP has seen the light now and can put everything right.

You don't see it until you see it.

She's can't put everything right, because she can't undo the incident where he shouted and left them at the restaurant... or, indeed, the last three years her kids have had to put up with this man.

BobbyBiscuits · 17/12/2024 14:57

I can't imagine any women leaping into bed with him in the interim between he stormed away from his family, pished as a fart, and continuing to drink in some random boozer.
He's clearly got an issue with alcohol. Will he address it? It doesn't sound like it. I strongly suggest you give him his marching orders. Drinker or not, he has zero respect.

thepariscrimefiles · 17/12/2024 14:57

BeAzureAnt · 17/12/2024 14:28

OP, let’s set aside Tina for a moment. Lovely, your husband is an alcoholic. I’d suggest contacting Al-Anon. It is an organisation for friends and families of addicts.

He really needs some help.

As he's already left and he's not the father of her children, I don't think OP has any responsibility for helping him with his alcoholism.

Doggymummar · 17/12/2024 14:58

My ex was an alcoholic like yours. He was shagging the barmaid. Story as old as the hills.

Ilikemymenlikeilikemycoffee · 17/12/2024 15:00

He is clearly uninterested in you and your children whether he’s sleeping with someone else or not. Who drinks that much our for tea with their kids?!

Get rid. You deserve better.

researchers3 · 17/12/2024 15:01

You're very well rid OP.
Please don't have him back this time. You and your kids deserve a million times better than this total loser.

VeryStressedMum · 17/12/2024 15:02

Tina is the least of your problems. If she takes him off your hands she'd be doing you a massive favour

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 17/12/2024 15:02

A dream home for kids is one where they are safe and happy and where they also sense their parents are.
He clearly has no idea what being a parent is, and he’s about to subject his own mother to his appalling behaviour. But that is not your problem.
Even though your marriage ended you know what it’s like to be in a decent relationship.
Spend 2025 with your children and stay single.
Leave this man to his appalling behaviour.

Inmydreams88 · 17/12/2024 15:03

Even if you don’t believe you deserve better than this, please realise that your children do.

Londoneye20 · 17/12/2024 15:04

Id leave anyway, without Tina bit tbh

SeaUrchinHat · 17/12/2024 15:06

OP, only you know why you’re putting up with this, but why you’d allow this be your DC’s childhood is beyond comprehension.

Calliopespa · 17/12/2024 15:08

Annabella92 · 17/12/2024 12:31

He shouted at you and left you and the children in the restaurant? I'd be out over that alone

Agree. And as the first poster said, my hand was on the buzzer way before Tina got to play her bit part in this saga.

He sounds vile op. He drinks and becomes a different person, he storms off fro the restaurant. The fact that there are children witnessing this behaviour only seals his fate. You know this too. I’m sorry about the complication with the house.

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