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Is this innocent? How would you feel?

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marshyrun · 17/12/2024 12:19

So, I'll start this by saying my partner likes to drink. Sometimes excessively at the weekend. When he does, he's like a different person. Snappy, nasty and says some horrible things that he can't recollect the next day.

This Friday just gone, he finished work at lunchtime. Had 4-5 pints at the pub. We had already arranged to go out for tea so I picked the children up (10, 7) and he met us there. Had a few more pints during the meal. We had a minor disagreement about something trivial and he shouted and stormed off, left us all in the restaurant. Me and the kids drove home, he went to another pub.

To cut a long story short, he didn't come home. Stayed in the pub until 10pm and went to his friends house (he says) and carried on drinking. He turned up home at midday the next day, having walked home 7 miles from his friends as the taxi refused to take him.

I was obviously mad that he didn't tell me where he was, or that he didn't come home. I was out all morning taking the children to their hobbies but when I got back he was apologising profusely for speaking to me that way and not coming home. I forgave him but then all weekend since something just didn't feel right. I felt like he wasn't telling me the truth.

I started to ask some questions. I asked who he was at the pub with for 3 hours before going to his friends, he said nobody. Didn't speak to anyone at all, just sat and watched the football. For some reason I just didn't believe him. So last night when he fell asleep, for the first time in our relationship, I checked his phone. Nothing on messages, or calls. I checked deleted messages and there it was. A chain of messages from Friday starting from 8pm - 1am. First one at 8pm is "Hi it's Tina, this is my number xx" "Where have you gone?" he replies "to my friend xxxx house, why don't you come here?" she then asks him to pick her up but he says he's drank too much and to get a cab. She doesn't reply right away so he texts her and says "trying to call you but it's going to voicemail, are you coming or not?" The messages end there.

I confronted him, he says this is just a friend he knew from the pub years and years ago, not seen her for ages and that is innocent, she's got a partner. Not much of a friend because he doesn't know her surname, or how old she is, just casually drank together 12 years ago.

AIBU to think that something else has gone off? How would you all feel if your partner did this and you found these messages? Please go easy on me, feeling pretty vulnerable and heartbroken right now. We bought our dream house together 9 months ago. xx

OP posts:
The13thFairy · 17/12/2024 14:03

I found your last sentence absolutely heartbreaking. "We bought our dream house nine months ago." So you're financially trapped. The fuckwittery will really ramp up now. It will never be your dream house while this misbegotten git is in it, drunkenly pissing on the carpets. It will be the swamp your dreams died in, and where your precious children learned how to conduct their own future relationships. Please be aware that it is not impossible to change your life for the better. Posters here will be able to tell you how to deal with the mortgage, as they once did. Good luck.

BitOutOfPractice · 17/12/2024 14:04

You have nothing to be embarrassed about op. Not one thing.

him, on the other hand…except he has not shred of self awareness or shame about him has he?

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 17/12/2024 14:05

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 13:52

Oh I need the blunt words. I've been a doormat and a pushover, I'm now realising this. I feel so embarrassed.

As others have said, channel that embarrassment into rage at your husband's despicable behaviour towards you and your children.

trythisforsize · 17/12/2024 14:05

You have done nothing wrong OP.

It sounds like you've tried and tried and tolerated a huge amount of horrific behaviour from him.

He has left of his own will so for that at least you can be thankful that he didn't dig his heels in and insist on staying and causing more drama for you and the children.

It may not feel like a positive, but believe me - it is.

Feel the calm. Don't let him return.
He is on track to becoming a full blown, no turning back, alcoholic - trust me I've seen this. It starts like this.

Look after you now, and your lovely kids.

MissDoubleU · 17/12/2024 14:07

redastherose · 17/12/2024 14:03

You say to the kids, dad wasn't nice to us all on Saturday and has gone to grandmas for a bit because he won't accept he was wrong. The kids are old enough to understand you can't treat people badly and expect to not have consequences. The timing isn't great but remember this isn't on you this is on him.

Just adding weight to this point again. Be honest (age appropriate, like above) with the children. They aren’t stupid. They saw his behaviour, they saw him storm off. They saw he wasn’t there the next day.

None of this is on you and every single attempt by him to pin it on you is because he is an alcoholic and can’t admit to his problem. Do not let him gaslight you. Change the locks, he can stay at his mums. Your children will thank you for the safety and stability provided by his absence

OhBling · 17/12/2024 14:08

Sent me a text saying it's the biggest mistake I've ever made causing a "scene" over this.

I laughed at this. But only because it's so classic. So YOU are the problem and he is going to punish you by leaving. FYI, if you haven't figured it out, you're supposed to BEG him to come back. APOLOGISE profusely for questioning him etc.

Please please please don't. Instead, text him back asking when he wants to have the DC and then call a solicitor.

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 14:09

Onlyvisiting · 17/12/2024 13:52

LTB.
I wouldn't be with anyone who had that kind of excessive attitude to drinking.

Believe it or not, this is not the first time he's done something like this.1.5 years ago he went drinking to another city 1 hr away for a friends birthday (just during the day). Got the train at 11am, meant to be home for 9pm.. couldn't get hold of him from 9pm onwards. He didn't come home. Tried calling me at 2am when I was asleep, said he lost his friends and didn't know where he was so he was getting a hotel. Arrives home at 11am with make up (foundation stains) all over both his shoulders of his white shirt. Couldn't put it in the wash quick enough and couldn't tell me how on earth they got there. Must have been someone brushing past him in a club he said... I was sure he cheated, all pointed that way, but after about 3 hours of arguing he just said he was at the strip club and he didn't tell me as he knew I'd be upset and wouldn't approve.

OP posts:
GettingStuffed · 17/12/2024 14:13

My husband drinks, especially when he goes to the rugby club about once every week or so during the season, but he has never ever been nasty to me after drinking, in fact it doesn't really seem to affect him.

You have two problems one he drinks to excess but also that it changes his personality to become nasty.

SnoopySantaPaws · 17/12/2024 14:18

The biggest mistake you've ever made 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Taking him back would be the biggest mistake you've ever could ever make.

the kids might be upset & angry, but maybe they'll be relieved.

Anyway, life isn't about pleasing the kids. It's about doing the best for them, even when they don't like it.

'Tina' is completely inconsequential. This should have been done a long time ago.

DO NOT TAKE HIM BACK!!

Mickelodeonssnazzypot · 17/12/2024 14:19

My ex physically attacked me when I was pregnant in the first few days of our new life in a dream home. Don't make my mistake of trying to help him-peace and safety are everything, a house is just a structure, home should be where you are safe and loved.

LBFseBrom · 17/12/2024 14:19

I don't know what to think about Tina. It seems suspicious and suggest you do a bit of research on her.

However regarding the best of his behaviour, he really needs to grow up. He's a family man and should behave like one, not get drunk and stay out all night. It's deplorable behaviour.

ThatTealViewer · 17/12/2024 14:21

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 14:09

Believe it or not, this is not the first time he's done something like this.1.5 years ago he went drinking to another city 1 hr away for a friends birthday (just during the day). Got the train at 11am, meant to be home for 9pm.. couldn't get hold of him from 9pm onwards. He didn't come home. Tried calling me at 2am when I was asleep, said he lost his friends and didn't know where he was so he was getting a hotel. Arrives home at 11am with make up (foundation stains) all over both his shoulders of his white shirt. Couldn't put it in the wash quick enough and couldn't tell me how on earth they got there. Must have been someone brushing past him in a club he said... I was sure he cheated, all pointed that way, but after about 3 hours of arguing he just said he was at the strip club and he didn't tell me as he knew I'd be upset and wouldn't approve.

Much like in the OP, why was your focus on whether or not he cheated? Literally everything else (all the things you actually know he did) was already vile LTB territory.

I know that some women will tolerate anything and everything as long as a man isn’t cheating, but I’ll never understand why! Why is that your line in the sand, instead of all the horrific disrespect?!

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 14:22

Thanks everyone for your advice, luckily I won't need to contact him regarding the DC, they aren't his. My DC are my ex husband's, who I have an amicable relationship with. This waste of space was just my partner for the last 3 years. It's only really the house that we'll need to discuss.

He does want me to beg and ask for him back, because tbh that's what I've stupidly done in the past. It needs to stop now. I can't keep lowering myself like this. I've lost all of my confidence, I'm seeing a therapist and I'm a shell of what I was 3 years ago.

I'm 37, I was previously married for 10 years, in a stable happy relationship where we just drifted apart, no bad blood, just ended up like friends. Never got shouted at, trusted him completely, never disappeared after a row. Then I walk into this type of relationship, blinded by love (bombing) and ended up with the polar opposite.

My children deserve better than this, I deserve better than this and I need to start putting us first. They are lovely kids as well, I'm so so blessed to have 2 gorgeous, sweet, kind little souls.

OP posts:
Rowen32 · 17/12/2024 14:24

I can't believe you have your children around this

lightsandtunnels · 17/12/2024 14:24

OP I feel so sad for you. So many red fags here as you are now beginning to see for yourself.
It may be a dream house but it won't ever be your dream home living there with a man who is (probably) an alcoholic and treats you this way. This behaviour is not the behaviour of a man who truly loves and respects his partner and family. He's now clearly at the guilt stage - trying to blame you. It is NOT your fault.

Rowen32 · 17/12/2024 14:26

Just read your updates, well done

Oddsquadnumber1 · 17/12/2024 14:26

Tina is the least of your problems.

Yes I agree with this. I thought he sounded awful long before Tina was mentioned

WimbyAce · 17/12/2024 14:28

He sounds a shit anyway so Tina is v welcome to him!

BeAzureAnt · 17/12/2024 14:28

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 12:19

So, I'll start this by saying my partner likes to drink. Sometimes excessively at the weekend. When he does, he's like a different person. Snappy, nasty and says some horrible things that he can't recollect the next day.

This Friday just gone, he finished work at lunchtime. Had 4-5 pints at the pub. We had already arranged to go out for tea so I picked the children up (10, 7) and he met us there. Had a few more pints during the meal. We had a minor disagreement about something trivial and he shouted and stormed off, left us all in the restaurant. Me and the kids drove home, he went to another pub.

To cut a long story short, he didn't come home. Stayed in the pub until 10pm and went to his friends house (he says) and carried on drinking. He turned up home at midday the next day, having walked home 7 miles from his friends as the taxi refused to take him.

I was obviously mad that he didn't tell me where he was, or that he didn't come home. I was out all morning taking the children to their hobbies but when I got back he was apologising profusely for speaking to me that way and not coming home. I forgave him but then all weekend since something just didn't feel right. I felt like he wasn't telling me the truth.

I started to ask some questions. I asked who he was at the pub with for 3 hours before going to his friends, he said nobody. Didn't speak to anyone at all, just sat and watched the football. For some reason I just didn't believe him. So last night when he fell asleep, for the first time in our relationship, I checked his phone. Nothing on messages, or calls. I checked deleted messages and there it was. A chain of messages from Friday starting from 8pm - 1am. First one at 8pm is "Hi it's Tina, this is my number xx" "Where have you gone?" he replies "to my friend xxxx house, why don't you come here?" she then asks him to pick her up but he says he's drank too much and to get a cab. She doesn't reply right away so he texts her and says "trying to call you but it's going to voicemail, are you coming or not?" The messages end there.

I confronted him, he says this is just a friend he knew from the pub years and years ago, not seen her for ages and that is innocent, she's got a partner. Not much of a friend because he doesn't know her surname, or how old she is, just casually drank together 12 years ago.

AIBU to think that something else has gone off? How would you all feel if your partner did this and you found these messages? Please go easy on me, feeling pretty vulnerable and heartbroken right now. We bought our dream house together 9 months ago. xx

OP, let’s set aside Tina for a moment. Lovely, your husband is an alcoholic. I’d suggest contacting Al-Anon. It is an organisation for friends and families of addicts.

He really needs some help.

trythisforsize · 17/12/2024 14:30

Well done OP.

I bet your kids will be really pleased to have you all to themselves instead of this waste of space taking up all your emotional energy.

It's done. You can relax.

WimbyAce · 17/12/2024 14:31

NunyaBeeswax · 17/12/2024 13:17

Every day I visit Mumsnet I'm astounded at the shit women will tolerate. I don't understand it.

"Oh he drinks excessively some weekend s and gets nasty" .... Like that's what decent people do

"He does coke sometimes..." Wtf

"He goes out every weekend leaving me with the kids but he's a good dad" is he fuck.

I mean, I'm being blunt OP I know but I hope you can open your eyes and realise that you're with a cunt, a lot of women seem to be, there's better than this out there..

Now maybe my bar is too high, I don't know, but I'll be so gle for the rest of my life before I tolerate ANY thing like what you've just casually described and are wondering if it's fine and dandy... NO IT IS NOT.

Yep this with bells on!!

MissDoubleU · 17/12/2024 14:31

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 14:22

Thanks everyone for your advice, luckily I won't need to contact him regarding the DC, they aren't his. My DC are my ex husband's, who I have an amicable relationship with. This waste of space was just my partner for the last 3 years. It's only really the house that we'll need to discuss.

He does want me to beg and ask for him back, because tbh that's what I've stupidly done in the past. It needs to stop now. I can't keep lowering myself like this. I've lost all of my confidence, I'm seeing a therapist and I'm a shell of what I was 3 years ago.

I'm 37, I was previously married for 10 years, in a stable happy relationship where we just drifted apart, no bad blood, just ended up like friends. Never got shouted at, trusted him completely, never disappeared after a row. Then I walk into this type of relationship, blinded by love (bombing) and ended up with the polar opposite.

My children deserve better than this, I deserve better than this and I need to start putting us first. They are lovely kids as well, I'm so so blessed to have 2 gorgeous, sweet, kind little souls.

Proud of you, be proud of yourself too. The further you get away from this POS the better you’ll feel and the confidence and happiness will return. You’ve got this

DaisyChain505 · 17/12/2024 14:31

These messages and Tina are irrelevant.

Your husband is a dick who puts drink before his family and you’re ruining your children’s childhood and damaging them for life by staying in this toxic situation.

EveryKneeShallBow · 17/12/2024 14:32

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 14:22

Thanks everyone for your advice, luckily I won't need to contact him regarding the DC, they aren't his. My DC are my ex husband's, who I have an amicable relationship with. This waste of space was just my partner for the last 3 years. It's only really the house that we'll need to discuss.

He does want me to beg and ask for him back, because tbh that's what I've stupidly done in the past. It needs to stop now. I can't keep lowering myself like this. I've lost all of my confidence, I'm seeing a therapist and I'm a shell of what I was 3 years ago.

I'm 37, I was previously married for 10 years, in a stable happy relationship where we just drifted apart, no bad blood, just ended up like friends. Never got shouted at, trusted him completely, never disappeared after a row. Then I walk into this type of relationship, blinded by love (bombing) and ended up with the polar opposite.

My children deserve better than this, I deserve better than this and I need to start putting us first. They are lovely kids as well, I'm so so blessed to have 2 gorgeous, sweet, kind little souls.

Well done! I love a happy ending. 👏🏼

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 17/12/2024 14:32

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 14:22

Thanks everyone for your advice, luckily I won't need to contact him regarding the DC, they aren't his. My DC are my ex husband's, who I have an amicable relationship with. This waste of space was just my partner for the last 3 years. It's only really the house that we'll need to discuss.

He does want me to beg and ask for him back, because tbh that's what I've stupidly done in the past. It needs to stop now. I can't keep lowering myself like this. I've lost all of my confidence, I'm seeing a therapist and I'm a shell of what I was 3 years ago.

I'm 37, I was previously married for 10 years, in a stable happy relationship where we just drifted apart, no bad blood, just ended up like friends. Never got shouted at, trusted him completely, never disappeared after a row. Then I walk into this type of relationship, blinded by love (bombing) and ended up with the polar opposite.

My children deserve better than this, I deserve better than this and I need to start putting us first. They are lovely kids as well, I'm so so blessed to have 2 gorgeous, sweet, kind little souls.

Wow, I was feeling sympathetic towards you until this post because I assumed he was your children's father. You have subjected your poor children to this man for three years? If I were their father, I'd be absolutely furious at what you've exposed them to.