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AIBU?

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Is this innocent? How would you feel?

227 replies

marshyrun · 17/12/2024 12:19

So, I'll start this by saying my partner likes to drink. Sometimes excessively at the weekend. When he does, he's like a different person. Snappy, nasty and says some horrible things that he can't recollect the next day.

This Friday just gone, he finished work at lunchtime. Had 4-5 pints at the pub. We had already arranged to go out for tea so I picked the children up (10, 7) and he met us there. Had a few more pints during the meal. We had a minor disagreement about something trivial and he shouted and stormed off, left us all in the restaurant. Me and the kids drove home, he went to another pub.

To cut a long story short, he didn't come home. Stayed in the pub until 10pm and went to his friends house (he says) and carried on drinking. He turned up home at midday the next day, having walked home 7 miles from his friends as the taxi refused to take him.

I was obviously mad that he didn't tell me where he was, or that he didn't come home. I was out all morning taking the children to their hobbies but when I got back he was apologising profusely for speaking to me that way and not coming home. I forgave him but then all weekend since something just didn't feel right. I felt like he wasn't telling me the truth.

I started to ask some questions. I asked who he was at the pub with for 3 hours before going to his friends, he said nobody. Didn't speak to anyone at all, just sat and watched the football. For some reason I just didn't believe him. So last night when he fell asleep, for the first time in our relationship, I checked his phone. Nothing on messages, or calls. I checked deleted messages and there it was. A chain of messages from Friday starting from 8pm - 1am. First one at 8pm is "Hi it's Tina, this is my number xx" "Where have you gone?" he replies "to my friend xxxx house, why don't you come here?" she then asks him to pick her up but he says he's drank too much and to get a cab. She doesn't reply right away so he texts her and says "trying to call you but it's going to voicemail, are you coming or not?" The messages end there.

I confronted him, he says this is just a friend he knew from the pub years and years ago, not seen her for ages and that is innocent, she's got a partner. Not much of a friend because he doesn't know her surname, or how old she is, just casually drank together 12 years ago.

AIBU to think that something else has gone off? How would you all feel if your partner did this and you found these messages? Please go easy on me, feeling pretty vulnerable and heartbroken right now. We bought our dream house together 9 months ago. xx

OP posts:
Everlygreen · 19/12/2024 08:55

Well done on getting rid. I think you owe it to your kid to not bring anyone into their lives for a very, very, very long time. These things are damaging and traumatic for a child. They don't deserve to bear the effects of their parents choices. Bringing a man into their lives, with them having no choice but to live with him is just wrong.
Take some time out, a very long time in fact and focus on giving them a safe and stable childhood. It's great that you have a good support system too, so no need to be looking for a relationship soon.

Myeyesareopen · 22/12/2024 10:14

Thank you for safeguarding your children. I recommend a book called 'Women who love too much,' as it is likely you will end up in a similar codependent relationship if you don't get some help for yourself.

Gardenbird123 · 22/12/2024 17:49

Do you want your children to be treated this way? Should they watch while you are treated this way? This isn't going to get better 😥

Emmz1510 · 22/12/2024 18:02

Tina is the least of your problems. This man is bad news.

lessglittermoremud · 22/12/2024 18:25

Glad you have realised you’re so much better off on your own, and I’m saying this very gently if I had been your ex husband and aware of the toxic behaviours of your new partner I would have intervened and kept the children with me, so I’m guessing their Dad wasn’t aware.
If I were you I would be looking to sell up the house, it’s too much of a stretch on your own and relying him to pay half for 12 months will not work, he’ll see it as way to still be part of your life/control you/not pay to punish you.

Sassybooklover · 22/12/2024 19:12

The first comment absolutely nails it. Tina isn't the biggest of your problems, the fact your husband shouted at you in front of the children, stormed out of the pub, left you to drive home, he continued drinking and then didn't come home...is your bigger issue. The fact he seems to want to get pissed up at weekends, and is a nasty drunk is a huge red flag, that actually he may have an alcohol issue. You seem to be more concerned about 'Tina', than the fact your husband treats you like crap, and in front of your children. It's possible this woman is someone he's known for sometimes, but if he has no idea on her surname and other details, they're hardly close. The fact he invited her to his friends house, suggests his intentions weren't honourable. However, it does sound as if perhaps Tina didn't go to his friends house. This is a man, who I wouldn't want to be married too, and to have influence over my children.

Active13 · 22/12/2024 19:36

Fargo79 · 17/12/2024 20:40

I totally stand by it. There were two measly lines out of all your posts where you expressed any concerns for your children.

I'm glad you've done the right thing now and hopefully you'll prioritise your children going forward, but I won't apologise for being truthful. All my sympathy is reserved for the children in these situations who get dragged through the mill with no control or ability to protect themselves, relying on adults who won't do it for them.

Let's not be so critical...
My sympathy is for the children & for OP. When your in an abusive, gaslighting relationship you can't think straight... living day to day & hoping things will get better as well as working, consume you. The abuse drags you down.

Ending or leaving this kind of relationship is not easy....abusive men do not just 'walk away' & hand over a house, even when children are involved.

OP needs good legal advice & support not criticism.

Be strong OP, find out your legal.options & gather strength from those friends or family who know you.

Towwanthustice · 22/12/2024 19:37

He picked that argument in the pub deliberately . He gas lit you!
He is not worthy of u and your children. You've been vulnerable but now it seems you have got your strength back. He is not worthy of you and your lovely family.

OldScribbler · 22/12/2024 19:39

"Sometimes excessively"???? He is a raging alcoholic. Also a 100% liar. My heart goes out to you. Sit him down and talk to him; see if he recognises what he's doing and is willing to change.

Isometimeswonder · 22/12/2024 20:00

Hopefully your children aren't damaged by this crap relationship.
Poor things

Winnersontop · 22/12/2024 20:19

Go to Relate. Talk it out with a therapist how unacceptable this behaviour is, ALL of it and if cheat once, OUT the door. You want an adult gir a husband and dad , not a boozer who needs to put his priorities right.

Griff1963 · 22/12/2024 20:20

GTFO, ASAFP!!

Frith2013 · 22/12/2024 20:48

No children should be witnessing this sort of behaviour.

Frith2013 · 22/12/2024 20:50

Oh, I see you have split up. That is excellent.

I made my normal mistake of thinking a post in "Trending" is brand new.

StrikeForever · 22/12/2024 21:14

Gardenbird123 · 22/12/2024 17:49

Do you want your children to be treated this way? Should they watch while you are treated this way? This isn't going to get better 😥

Read the OPs updates

StrikeForever · 22/12/2024 21:15

OldScribbler · 22/12/2024 19:39

"Sometimes excessively"???? He is a raging alcoholic. Also a 100% liar. My heart goes out to you. Sit him down and talk to him; see if he recognises what he's doing and is willing to change.

She has already ended the relationship 🙄

Allthehorsesintheworld · 22/12/2024 21:29

Your partner will try to get back with you.
The children can’t see us apart at Christmas.
I’ll stop drinking
I’ll only drink at home..etc..etc..etc….
Theyll try anything because you’re the umbilical cord that allows them to keep drinking. I was stupidly the same , paid all the bills because who wants their utilities disconnected, hid him when he embarrassed himself because who wants the pitying looks, even paid his child support to his ex wife ffs etc. etc. my life was full of all the etc I was doing!
It improved 1000% once I got rid.
Please don’t fall for the let’s try again, it’ll be different, we can’t just lose X years….. it’s all bullshit, guaranteed.
Have a great, stress free, eggshell-less Christmas, it’s the beginning of a better life.

latetonews · 22/12/2024 21:51

Well done for leaving this man who is clearly an alcoholic. It's not your job to help him be a better person. You are not his mum and he is not a child.

Imbusytodaysorry · 22/12/2024 22:08

@marshyrun this doesn’t seem an easy one to work out tbh.
I do feel he kicked off so he could go off do his own thing . Was this already planned in some way as he knew “Tina” was out ?

You can’t trust this man.
And as other poster said . This isn’t a life you and kids need or want.

Weemermaid · 23/12/2024 00:06

He clearly has a drinking problem, if not already an alcoholic, and that will only get worse, as will the impact on you and your children. I was in a similar situation a long time ago with my ex husband and had various incidents like you describe. Until he admits he has a problem and wants to get help nothing will improve, so get yourself and your children out of there. There's loads of research and information out there on the impact of alcohol dependent parents and partners if that helps. I wish you and your children the best of luck x

Judecb · 23/12/2024 08:04

I think these are the drunken, rambling messages of an inebriated person who has probably made some half arsed attempt to flirt with someone in the pub. BUT this is the least of your worries Your DH urgently needs to get help with his drinking. He definitely shouldn't be around young kids once he's that drunk. He shouldn't be treating you badly in front of them, and he shouldn't be storming off to spend the night alone drinking. He has a major problem with alcohol, and he's putting himself at serious risk.

diddl · 23/12/2024 09:54

I wouldn't rely on him paying half the mortgage if he needs to rent somewhere in the meantime.

Onwards & upwards Op!

AskJateace · 23/12/2024 12:03

What he needs is help! He is clearly an alcoholic and at this point you can't trust what he will do. Alcoholism makes you act impulsively and makes it difficult to make sane decisions. It doesn't surprise me that you caught him being deceptive and almost having an affair. I'm sorry you're going through all of this and I know that it hurts to think he would have an affair. You need to get him in to some kind of treatment, and if I were you I would make him go to treatment just to prove to you that he will slow down with his alcohol consumption and earn your trust back for acting out and making irresponsible decisions. Therapy would be my first suggestion then, it would be AA. Make him agree to do these things even if that means you being committed to participating in it with him. If you want to save your marriage these are the things you need to do first and prioritize if things are going to improve in your family life and marriage. I wish you well and I hope your heart heals and things improve, and you and your husband can work out your problems and live a life that is pleasing and fulfilling without toxicity and negativity.
Happy holidays and Best wishes!!

MyLimeGuide · 23/12/2024 12:58

BamboleoQueen · 17/12/2024 13:02

You should have considered your relationship over long before Tina entered the chat.

Easier said than done when you are caught up in an emotionally abusive relationship

cornflakecrunchie · 08/01/2025 13:26

Only just read this thread, I hope you & your children had a lovely Christmas, OP.

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