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to find this really chilling.. :-( [MNHQ CONTENT WARNING: sexual assault]

131 replies

fixingmylife · 13/12/2024 18:05

I can't believe the number of violence against women from men sickening stories that happening at the moment. This one really chilled me to my very core.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9jkvymvw7o

A blonde Natalie looks to camera in a selfie

Man raped and killed unconscious woman on park bench

A sexual predator raped and killed an unconscious woman on a west London park bench.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj9jkvymvw7o

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SleepToad · 13/12/2024 18:28

I'm a man. This is ... Words fail me. Not all men are like this, but too many are.

Why why...what goes through your head to consider this.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/12/2024 18:36

YADNBU. Although I don’t think chilling even comes with a billion miles of covering it.
RIP beautiful Nathalie. X
Drop the key in ocean and none of this protection nonsense either. Throw him in with the hungry lions who despise disgusting r**ists.

Threefigures · 13/12/2024 18:38

SleepToad · 13/12/2024 18:28

I'm a man. This is ... Words fail me. Not all men are like this, but too many are.

Why why...what goes through your head to consider this.

The scariest part is no matter how many men it is, we don't know which ones they are.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/12/2024 18:44

I’ve just read that he got a lousy 10 years and 8 months AKA an even lousier 5 years and 4 months. That’s an insult not only to Poor Nathalie her poor children and family but to all females😡

Balloonhearts · 13/12/2024 18:48

Ffs. If that's all you get for killing someone there's a few I'd like to bump off and I'll still be out in time to retire!

Allthehorsesintheworld · 13/12/2024 18:51

From BBC “Jurors were not told of Iidow's previous convictions for sexual offences.”
Previous convictions.
Freed to rape and kill.
And then a pathetically short sentence so he can be released and possibly ( probably?) offend again.
This is why I’m in favour of the death sentence. A huge number of women would still be alive if these bastards were just put down. Couple of injections, job done.

Oaoejvr · 13/12/2024 18:52

This one truly horrified me

Jackiepumpkinhead · 13/12/2024 18:53

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/12/2024 18:44

I’ve just read that he got a lousy 10 years and 8 months AKA an even lousier 5 years and 4 months. That’s an insult not only to Poor Nathalie her poor children and family but to all females😡

He has a minimum sentence of over 10 years, absolutely not long enough but it won’t be shortened.

OscarWinningTits · 13/12/2024 18:53

What an unspeakably sick crime. Psychopathic. Casual. Utter misogyny.

SensibleSigma · 13/12/2024 18:54

Men who view women as holes.

betterangels · 13/12/2024 18:55

Unfathomable cruelty.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/12/2024 18:55

Please ask MNHQ to put a trigger warning on your thread, Op.

Selkirkrose · 13/12/2024 18:55

How in the hell did he only get 10 years??!! That is NOT justice.

Squeezetheday · 13/12/2024 18:55

It’s just awful, that poor poor woman ☹️ makes me absolutely sick to my stomach reading about this case. How on earth was this man free to walk the streets when he was so dangerous

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/12/2024 18:56

Jackiepumpkinhead · 13/12/2024 18:53

He has a minimum sentence of over 10 years, absolutely not long enough but it won’t be shortened.

Don’t they usually only serve half inside and the other half out on license.

JohnSt1 · 13/12/2024 18:56

This is nauseating. The sentences are pathetic. It's not just the perpetrators who treated this woman as worthless.

Beautifulweeds · 13/12/2024 18:56

Beyond vile! I like to think most men would help her, not abuse because she was passed out. It really must take a certain kind of monster to do this, especially so calm and on to business as usual. To see an opportunity for depravity, see this woman as worthless and not get help, disgusting 😑

Titsywoo · 13/12/2024 18:57

Our local police have a FB page and post crime stats in the area each month. 50% of the crimes are domestic violence which is a huge amount but it seems pretty standard.

Semiramide · 13/12/2024 18:58

Given that sentences are routinely halved he should have been given at least 40 years.

At least.

10 years is utterly pathetic and illustrates how sexual assaults on women are still minimised by our judicial system.

Nikitaspearlearring · 13/12/2024 19:00

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/12/2024 18:55

Please ask MNHQ to put a trigger warning on your thread, Op.

I'd like to see it moved from AIBU too. It doesn't seem right for some weirdo to be able to vote anonymously that you are BU.

Tittat50 · 13/12/2024 19:00

Why has this beast received such a short sentence. Is this the judge who chose this.
Interesting he cares more about the cat than this human being.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 13/12/2024 19:01

When I read stuff like this, I'd embrace a return of public hanging. Hopefully in his case with a misculculation that means it's slow.

Jackiepumpkinhead · 13/12/2024 19:01

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/12/2024 18:56

Don’t they usually only serve half inside and the other half out on license.

Not if you are given a ‘life sentence’. You would get a mandatory life sentence with a minimum term for murder and sometimes for other very serious crimes (like this case) but this is usually at the judge’s discretion. There’s always a chance (I really hope so) that he’ll never be released.

GreyBlackBay · 13/12/2024 19:02

I follow Counting Dead Women on twitter. I knew it was '2 or 3 a week' but seeing the picture, the name, the brief details and the accused (nearly always husband, boyfriend, ex, father). It is chilling.

I know it's not all men but there's no way to know which men.

We need to make it easier for women to get away at the first red flag, and to see that flag.

fixingmylife · 13/12/2024 19:03

Nikitaspearlearring · 13/12/2024 19:00

I'd like to see it moved from AIBU too. It doesn't seem right for some weirdo to be able to vote anonymously that you are BU.

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How do I ask Mumsnet to put a trigger warning and to remove from AIBU? Sorry, I don't know how to do this? Thanks.

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