Child Safeguarding Win, Puberty Blockers have been indefinitely banned across the ENTIRE of the UK (for off label use, precocious puberty use remains)

[MrBungle]

A great day for child safeguarding, this is evidence, reason and medical expertise over pressure groups.

https://archive.ph/mWufj

A terrible shame for those children that this is too late for, who have been permanently harmed by ideologues and will never be able to have their body back the way it should have grown.

"Puberty blockers for under-18s banned after warning of ‘unacceptable risk’ to children
Existing emergency measures in UK outlawing sale and supply to be made indefinite following official advice from medical experts"

Yes. There are many such parents on mn. Some of them very very distressed because they know their child has been influenced by social contagion and some who blindly accept this new persona their child has announced.

I have an immense amount of sympathy for any parent whose child is experiencing extreme distress, but the fact remains that these drugs do cause significant harm to young people when prescribed for dysphoria, and that parents have an obligation to inform themselves on the topic. In no other area of medicine do we allow children to diagnose themselves and demand a specific treatment and yet this is what many parents have done here. There will be many, no doubt, questioning their choices. This is appropriate and in no way a witch hunt.

@Mog65 Is there any such thing? No child is born in the wrong body!

This is the biggest medical scandal since Thalidomide, and you're claiming the whistleblowers and medical experts that are saving children's lives by calling this out are on a 'witch hunt'? Your priorities and values completely backwards!

'trans' children are like vegan cats - we all know who is making the decisions here. And its often munchausen by proxy.

What? Following long established medical testing protocols is a witch-hunt? WTH?

And it needs to stop trying to use 'gender' to remove autistic, gender non -conforming girls from it's case load by referring them on.

Hopefully it now has.

But this was my experience what they were doing in my area 2 years ago.

Sometimes it's desperate parents of vulnerable children listening to health professionals.

In our area almost every autistic female with mental health issues suddenly started identifying as trans or non binary.

My daughter saw the same over 'gender' enthusiastic CAMHS healthcare worker.

So for many parents they were listening to professionals and trying to do their best. I feel deeply sorry for those families.

You have no idea what you are even saying, do you?

I'm in my fourties. I've been dysphoric since I was able to articulate it as a child. I'm one of the lucky few who got treatment young. It doesn't go away. You don't 'grow out' of something that is a fundamental part of you.

I suppose that's why studies keep finding them to be safe and effective then?

@ButterflyHatched except that they don't. Even Tavistocks own data showed that suicidal ideation and self harm actually increased after 12 months on puberty blockers. Dr Joanna Olsen Kennedy has deliberately suppressed the most comprehensive study on outcomes to date as it showed that there was no clear benefit to their use, and in fact, outcomes were often worse, because she didn't want the findings to be "weaponised" in trans healthcare provision.

There is no justification for delaying puberty in a physically healthy child. You're not just stopping the physical changes that occur during puberty, but also the cognitive development of the brain, leaving these young people developmentally behind their peers, often by as much as 3/4 years. Particularly in the development of the areas of the brain concerned with reasoning. So how is a teenager, whose brain hasn't been allowed to mature, meant to develop the critical thinking skills necessary to deduce whether they're on the right path.

It's child abuse. It's not healthcare in any shape or form. To developmentally handicap any child is astonishingly cruel.

I suppose that's why studies keep finding them to be safe and effective then?

Please link one or more studies you find particularly compelling @ButterflyHatched

Is there any information showing that if you took puberty blockers til you were , say, 18, and then stopped, that you would then have normal puberty?
I see info on delaying puberty but for how long can you actually delay it?

if only we could Community Note you - there is zero evidence finding these drugs to be safe and effective and a huge amount to show they are the opposite.

Baroness Cass herself disagrees with you.

I think "safe and effective" here is akin to 6 people playing Russian Roulette with a revolver and it can be fine for 5 of them.

That's a gross miss representation and you know it

This isn't Transreddituk mate, you won't find simps upvoting you despite it not being true here.

The evidence suggests that in most cases it does in fact go away if you don't pump children full of life shortening drugs which permanently stunt their development.

@ButterflyHatched if you got treatment when you were young then how come you continue to experience dysphoria? Then what was the point of the treatment?

I wouldn't know; I don't use Reddit and try to avoid social media as much as possible.

Call me names as much as you like. The days of being able to shout “far right”
at people for it wanting to experiment on kids is over chum.

There are internal and external sources of dysphoria. Some comes from how we perceive ourselves in relation to our bodies (internal). Some comes from awareness of how others perceive us (external). Some comes from the results of those perceptions - discrimination, physical and psychological harms including denial of healthcare, etc (external).

Treatment is a best effort, not a universal panacea. It has certainly made my life so, so much better and I doubt you'd find a single person who knows me who would disagree.

This is great news. Not only does it safeguard children but it's hopefully a step forward towards everyone being able to present as they wish, while being accepting and at peace with the bodies they have.

You act as if health care that you choose and dictate is somehow a right?

nobody is denying you healthcare - they’re just saying that taking drugs that don’t work and surgery that does not work is not the healthcare you need - you can and SHOULD have the healthcare you NEED absolutely 100% like we all should.

Amen.

It's absolutely brilliant news 👏