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AIBU to be having nightmares over friends visit?

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Allinarow48 · 10/12/2024 21:43

Having nightmares over old friends visit.

One of my closest friends is coming to visit over Christmas, after 10 years living abroad with only ocassional visits I should be excited but I’m actually terrified.

I was best mates with “Jane” since we were kids, we lived together during college and were absolutely inseparable. We really, really loved each other for years and went through a lot together. She is also good friends with my DH and my DD loves her.

During her time abroad she has met a lovely man, had a beautiful son (age 2) and started her own business.

She’s always suffered badly with depression and anxiety and her mental health has been fragile. Although in her new country she found some excellent therapists who really helped her. However lately she seems to be spiralling .

It started during Covid, I think she got very deep into social media. She’s always been very politically active and since she had her son the plight of children in Gaza has been a huge focus for her.

She’s always been very vehemently anti Israel since I’ve known her (We’re Irish and that’s very normal here).

She began to post pro-Hamas stuff just after the 7/11 attacks on Israel and immediately shared Hamas videos of the attacks ( the murder of Israelis and desecration of corpses etc.) With added commentary “This is beautiful to me.” “This is how freedom is gained.” Etc. A lot of Irish people are still quite pro-IRA and once again the support of Hamas isn’t that unusual but actually sharing the videos was extreme.

She then started posting videos of dead Gazan children pretty much continuously. Due to the time difference I can see most of her posting is done at night. I think she posts while feeding her son. Videos accompanied by “This is me.” “This is my son.” “I am Palestine.” kind of stuff. She said in one post that her ability to care for her son has been affected by the secondary trauma of what happening in Gaza.

Then recently she began to go from “Death to Israel” to “Death to the Jews.” She posted in Arabic and I translated it. It was an insta story and then disappeared. And since then she’s pretty much transitioned from anti-Israel to Anti-western and fairly drastic Antisemetic stuff “They didn’t gas enough of you” that kind of thing.

Then she went on to say recently that anyone who doesn’t agree with her should kill themselves or be killed and burn in hell etc…

Now here’s the thing: I’m Jewish, non practicing, I have relatives in Israel and lost a friend to the Hamas attacks. I’m disgusted by the Israeli government at the moment and have a lot of sympathy for the Gazan people but I don’t hate the Israeli people either. I am actually quite middle of the road politically.

Being Irish, Jewishness is is not something I have ever advertised and I’m actually not sure I’ve I ever told her. If she’s aware and doesn’t care or has forgotten and doesn’t mind me seeing her posts.

My mistake is that I never responded to any of her posts and never argued with her. She seems to think we’re totally cool. So she contacted me wanting to see me over Christmas for a day or 2.

I’ve been having nightmares about it. I’m scared I’ll say something or do something that upsets her and she freaks out, or something I do or don’t say triggers her mental heath problems and she hurts herself. I also feel bad that my dishonesty caused this situation. If I has said something last year she would probably have ditched me and never wanted to see me again.

I would like some advice on how to proceed.

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CountFucula · 10/12/2024 21:45

I would ask her not to come. I don’t like anti-Semites and not wanting them in your home isn’t unreasonable.

comedycentral · 10/12/2024 21:45

Is she staying with you or are you visiting her for one day?

Rowen32 · 10/12/2024 21:45

Not what you're asking but I totally disagree a lot of Irish people are still pro IRA

romdowa · 10/12/2024 21:46

I'd be extremely busy during her visit and after her visit , I'd slowly fade her out. She's clearly become very extreme in her views and that's just not something I could align with. I'm an Irish Catholic and definitely feel for the Palestinians but it's not the fault of your average jew or Israeli and I couldn't associate with anyone who is so openly anti jew

StopStartStop · 10/12/2024 21:47

You could cancel and end the friendship. I would. If you don't want to come out as Jewish (and that's your choice, no-one should pressure you) just tell her you can't take the political stuff, you aren't interested.

You could try to go through with the visit and keep quiet. If she freaks out about something, she'll probably leave. Or you might ask her to leave. End of friendship.

Sometimes people who we liked grow in directions that aren't appropriate for us to support. Can you live without her? A lot will depend on how important she is to you.

Rowen32 · 10/12/2024 21:47

Just tell her all your plans are made and you've no free time if you don't want to get into it.
If you do tell her you don't want to meet up as her standpoints are too different to yours

stanleypops66 · 10/12/2024 21:49

I totally disagree that lot of Irish people are pro IRA and pro hamas. A good majority do support the Palestinian plight though.

How does your friend not know that you're Jewish? Either way whilst I'm also pro Palestinian, some of her views are extreme and disgusting.

Just be honest with her and say you don't want to meet up with her.

StopStartStop · 10/12/2024 21:49

my dishonesty caused this situation
No. Her racism caused this situation.

StevieNic · 10/12/2024 21:49

She is a racist and an extremist. Do not have her in your home. Just say you are going away, or ill.

Doublebubblegum · 10/12/2024 21:53

She is an extremist and a racist. I'd be ending the friendship. If you don't want any confrontation just message her to say you're actually really busy over the Christmas period and won't be able to see her after all. She sounds unhinged and I wouldn't want her anywhere near my or my family.

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Doublebubblegum · 10/12/2024 21:55

StopStartStop · 10/12/2024 21:49

my dishonesty caused this situation
No. Her racism caused this situation.

Exactly this! You are not to blame for any part of this situation.

JustAFear · 10/12/2024 21:56

She is racist and extremist. Having mental health struggles does not excuse this.

This is not someone you need to be friends with.

I am not Jewish. I would not feel comfortable having someone like this in my life and certainly not in my house.

kiwiane · 10/12/2024 21:56

She’s been radicalised and I can imagine it could well be an issue during her stay. I have told a friend I won’t look at such content and that it’s not good for her mental health to do so.

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Allinarow48 · 10/12/2024 21:57

stanleypops66 · 10/12/2024 21:49

I totally disagree that lot of Irish people are pro IRA and pro hamas. A good majority do support the Palestinian plight though.

How does your friend not know that you're Jewish? Either way whilst I'm also pro Palestinian, some of her views are extreme and disgusting.

Just be honest with her and say you don't want to meet up with her.

I live in an area with a lot of republicanism and historical ties to the IRA I accept its not a universal thing but not unusual either. More of a 'scratch the surface when people have had a few pints' kind of thing.

I'm pretty sure I never told her. My family aren't religious at all and it isn't really a big part of my cultural life. Just an ethincity really, my last name is German and I tell people my background is German. If I did tell her I'm pretty sure she's forgotten or she wouldn't have said what she said.

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Allinarow48 · 10/12/2024 21:58

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By Kids I mean teenagers. And as I've said I don't talk about it. I tell people my grandparents were German.

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Well that's a bit harsh

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Allinarow48 · 10/12/2024 22:00

comedycentral · 10/12/2024 21:45

Is she staying with you or are you visiting her for one day?

She wants to meet up for a day or maybe stay over somewhere overnight depending on the family.

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Allinarow48 · 10/12/2024 21:57

I live in an area with a lot of republicanism and historical ties to the IRA I accept its not a universal thing but not unusual either. More of a 'scratch the surface when people have had a few pints' kind of thing.

I'm pretty sure I never told her. My family aren't religious at all and it isn't really a big part of my cultural life. Just an ethincity really, my last name is German and I tell people my background is German. If I did tell her I'm pretty sure she's forgotten or she wouldn't have said what she said.

Maybe don't generalise to 'a lot of Irish people' then

comedycentral · 10/12/2024 22:02

Allinarow48 · 10/12/2024 22:00

She wants to meet up for a day or maybe stay over somewhere overnight depending on the family.

Stick to the daytime visit, no overnights! It sounds like a nightmare scenario.

Allinarow48 · 10/12/2024 22:02

Rowen32 · 10/12/2024 21:45

Not what you're asking but I totally disagree a lot of Irish people are still pro IRA

I probably should have said 'some' since people are getting fucked off about it. I live in North Kerry and a lot of people are if you actually talk to them. Not just Old IRA either.

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Hunglikeapolevaulter · 10/12/2024 22:04

Your "friend" is an antisemitic terrorist supporter, and also a massive cunt.

It's really disturbing that you have to hide being Jewish in Ireland, but after some of the stuff I've seen on X I'm unfortunately not surprised.

RisingSunn · 10/12/2024 22:06

No way.
Some relationships and their fun memories should stay in the past.

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