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Mounjaro offending close "friends"

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Hope78 · 10/12/2024 12:04

I have bitten the bullet and started using Mounjaro. I pay for it privately through a reputable private clinic , and in a nutshell its been incredible.

Long story as short as poss.... I'm a well built 5ft7 woman who has been anything from 10st to 13.7st over years , ideal weight 11st happy and feel good, have gone into perimenopause , started HRT and basically CANNOT shift stubborn 2st. I told my GP my plans and he agreed as BMI verging on obese (13st4) .....decision was 6 months in making with a LOT of research before starting it ....anyway ....

I have lost my first half stone ( in 10 days ) and with close friends at the weekend told them i was on the injection and how great i feel ( not just food noise but ADHD symptoms better too ) my friends were so happy for me bar one who could not hide her disgust. This person has a stunning figure, always been a petite size 8, always attracted a lot of male attention, and has been known to be quite fattest over the years to anyone chubby. She basically said it was cheating, said i would be fatter long term and i know that behind my back is slagging me off ..
I've always been confident despite my different weights but i did get a lot of compliments especially from other husbands of how well i looked , and it seemed to REALLY annoy her she has stopped messaging me as much and has declined Xmas invites for drinks at mine.
Its got me thinking that this injection is a real shift long term for men and women , but psychologically its maybe pissing off people that don't struggle????
Another friend was shocked i even told people but im not that sort of person , I'm an open book and chatty and don't see the point ? maybe i should have just kept my mouth shut ? AIBU to feel shocked and disappointed by this ?

OP posts:
yohohoCrimbo · 10/12/2024 13:22

smallchange · 10/12/2024 12:15

There are some (some - NATPALT) people who wear their thinness as a badge of how virtuous they are, how self-denying, how self-controlled.

They have a genuine visceral disgust over fatness - the fat person is too much, slovenly, gluttonous, taking up too much space in the world.

It's not a healthy mindset, especially if something happens to them and they can no longer maintain the thinness that they need to be a good person.

I think that's where the "cheating" idea comes from. To her, weight loss should be a struggle against the dark forces of sin. A purification ritual of self-mortification and denial. Very mediaeval. Pay no mind. It's foolish and disordered thinking.

Agree with this. People like this do exist. Work with them.

MamaWeasel · 10/12/2024 13:23

RabbitsEatPancakes · 10/12/2024 12:31

Why do you think she doesn't "struggle".

I've never been overweight, but I think about food all the time, have to exercise extreme self control to not be overweight. It does seem pointless when everyone can just cheat and get injections. Actual effort counts for nothing now.

So weight loss is simply a matter of extreme self control now?

You are very much mistaken.

Jumell · 10/12/2024 13:24

It’s also nonsense her saying you’ll end up fatter in the long term …

tresales · 10/12/2024 13:24

SwingTheMonkey · 10/12/2024 12:40

The fact that it pisses people off makes my mounjaro weight loss all the sweeter for me.

If being ‘naturally’ thin is all you’ve got to be proud of, perhaps you need to re evaluate things.

you can tell the difference anyway, fit people are toned and people who lack willpower and use weightloss drugs don't exercise enough to have a toned midsection

Jumell · 10/12/2024 13:24

OP you DEFINITELY need to lose around 8 stone !! - your size 8 ‘friend’ that is!

FairyLightsInTheMist · 10/12/2024 13:26

Mamasperspective · 10/12/2024 13:17

I'm on the fence about this but your friend has definitely had an extreme reaction.

I wouldn't take it personally as your body will stop naturally making the hormone that controls hunger (it's being provided by the injection) so you need to stay on it for life ... when you come off it, it's highly likely you will pile the weight back on and more (watch the Jillian Michaels interview on weight loss injections - they pretty much all work the same way)

That being said, you're a grown adult capable of doing your own research and your own decisions. If you find this is your only option and it's working for you then good for you - your friend can butt out.

Jillian Michaels has an interest in selling her own route to weight loss, so of course she is going to criticise injections. I like her workouts, but what she put people through on The Biggest Loser was not a sustainable, healthy journey to permanent weight loss - it was an exploitative and damaging show in which contestants engaged in extreme and disordered behaviour to lose weight rapidly in the name of entertainment. She does not have the moral high ground on this, and she doesn't have an expert view on weight loss injections. It's not the case that the body stops producing appetite regulating hormones when you come off them - in obese people, these hormones are dysregulated already. Without medication, their bodies may revert, the same way that if you stop taking blood pressure meds then your blood pressure goes back up. No method of weight loss is permanent, around 95% of people who lose weight regain it, plus more. This is not unique to injections.

ThrillhouseVanHouten · 10/12/2024 13:26

Nosyguest · 10/12/2024 13:21

Pharmacist have the same criteria

Not all online pharmacists are scrupulous... sadly it's really easy to lie to them.

MJOverInvestor · 10/12/2024 13:26

Onceachunkymonkey · 10/12/2024 12:34

It never did sweetie, no one was handing out prizes.

This...

HansHolbein · 10/12/2024 13:27

@Onceachunkymonkey 😂

Mounjaro offending close "friends"
Hickory247 · 10/12/2024 13:28

Hope78 · 10/12/2024 12:04

I have bitten the bullet and started using Mounjaro. I pay for it privately through a reputable private clinic , and in a nutshell its been incredible.

Long story as short as poss.... I'm a well built 5ft7 woman who has been anything from 10st to 13.7st over years , ideal weight 11st happy and feel good, have gone into perimenopause , started HRT and basically CANNOT shift stubborn 2st. I told my GP my plans and he agreed as BMI verging on obese (13st4) .....decision was 6 months in making with a LOT of research before starting it ....anyway ....

I have lost my first half stone ( in 10 days ) and with close friends at the weekend told them i was on the injection and how great i feel ( not just food noise but ADHD symptoms better too ) my friends were so happy for me bar one who could not hide her disgust. This person has a stunning figure, always been a petite size 8, always attracted a lot of male attention, and has been known to be quite fattest over the years to anyone chubby. She basically said it was cheating, said i would be fatter long term and i know that behind my back is slagging me off ..
I've always been confident despite my different weights but i did get a lot of compliments especially from other husbands of how well i looked , and it seemed to REALLY annoy her she has stopped messaging me as much and has declined Xmas invites for drinks at mine.
Its got me thinking that this injection is a real shift long term for men and women , but psychologically its maybe pissing off people that don't struggle????
Another friend was shocked i even told people but im not that sort of person , I'm an open book and chatty and don't see the point ? maybe i should have just kept my mouth shut ? AIBU to feel shocked and disappointed by this ?

I have an Aunt and also an 'aquaintance' friend of a friend who are both very slim and in their 90's. When I have proudly announced that I had lost 1 3/4 stone with SW in 7 months both said "oh I've always been this weight since I was in my 20's" and "I have never found it hard to stay this weight" and other comments equally as annoying.

I don't understand why they can't just say "well done". It's been so hard and giving up smoking 25 a day was a doddle in comparison.

I personally, would be really pleased for someone that had tried hard to shift it, whether is with bariatric surgery, weight loss injections or Slimming World. I don't understand why people can be unkind in this way, I'd just put it down to her being jealous of you although I realise that that isn't the case in either of the two people I know.

Onceachunkymonkey · 10/12/2024 13:29

FairyLightsInTheMist · 10/12/2024 13:26

Jillian Michaels has an interest in selling her own route to weight loss, so of course she is going to criticise injections. I like her workouts, but what she put people through on The Biggest Loser was not a sustainable, healthy journey to permanent weight loss - it was an exploitative and damaging show in which contestants engaged in extreme and disordered behaviour to lose weight rapidly in the name of entertainment. She does not have the moral high ground on this, and she doesn't have an expert view on weight loss injections. It's not the case that the body stops producing appetite regulating hormones when you come off them - in obese people, these hormones are dysregulated already. Without medication, their bodies may revert, the same way that if you stop taking blood pressure meds then your blood pressure goes back up. No method of weight loss is permanent, around 95% of people who lose weight regain it, plus more. This is not unique to injections.

Well said. The only difference is with mounjaro, not the others, you can stay on for life, taking a low maintenance dose, either continuously or as required, to keep your weight down. But yes if you come off them, and revert back to eating habits of old, you will regain, just like any other diet.

and I laughed, probably shouldn’t have done, but Jillian Michaels, I mean cmon.

Onceachunkymonkey · 10/12/2024 13:29

HansHolbein · 10/12/2024 13:27

@Onceachunkymonkey 😂

Fabulous! You were needed @HansHolbein 😃

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 10/12/2024 13:30

She probably has always felt superior to you - being thinner than you (and that equating being a "better" person with stronger will).
And she will no longer have that because you "cheat"...
Fuck her.

RosieLeaf · 10/12/2024 13:31

The thing is, if anyone loses a lot of weight now, people just assume it’s injections. And no, I don’t congratulate, I don’t say anything. It’s not relevant. You don’t comment that someone was fat, I’m not going to comment if they (suddenly) become thin.

ShinyPebble32 · 10/12/2024 13:31

Obviously she’s not being fair. Sounds like she has low self worth and insecurities that she feels she needs to make up for being the ‘thin friend’, and the realisation she won’t be for much longer is triggering her massively, unfortunately.

So of course YANBU, but - speaking as someone who is on Tirzepatide too and with the same height/weight/goal as you - losing 7lbs in 10 days at your relatively low weight does sound very quick and extreme. So her reaction may be tempered with worry, too. It’s best to go slowly and gradually, to avoid some of the problems associated with rapid weight loss. It’s about building new habits that you can maintain when you come off it. Good luck with it, hope you find a good steady, sustainable rate of weight loss!

Catza · 10/12/2024 13:37

tresales · 10/12/2024 13:24

you can tell the difference anyway, fit people are toned and people who lack willpower and use weightloss drugs don't exercise enough to have a toned midsection

Fit people don't use the term "toned".
Also, it's not a binary choice. Nobody is stopping people from injecting AND exercising.

Jumell · 10/12/2024 13:38

OP also long before the days of Mounjaro - when I was 13 - I lost weight bad became a normal weight kid after being a fat kid since they age of 6. My ‘friend’ was not happy. In fact she made me feel slightly bullied and backed into a corner. It’s an awful feeling - people who generally rain on others’ parades can get in the bin !

LadyKenya · 10/12/2024 13:38

RosieLeaf · 10/12/2024 13:31

The thing is, if anyone loses a lot of weight now, people just assume it’s injections. And no, I don’t congratulate, I don’t say anything. It’s not relevant. You don’t comment that someone was fat, I’m not going to comment if they (suddenly) become thin.

I agree. I don't congratulate people if they have lost weight, it is not something that I would think of doing.

Comtesse · 10/12/2024 13:40

Mamasperspective · 10/12/2024 13:17

I'm on the fence about this but your friend has definitely had an extreme reaction.

I wouldn't take it personally as your body will stop naturally making the hormone that controls hunger (it's being provided by the injection) so you need to stay on it for life ... when you come off it, it's highly likely you will pile the weight back on and more (watch the Jillian Michaels interview on weight loss injections - they pretty much all work the same way)

That being said, you're a grown adult capable of doing your own research and your own decisions. If you find this is your only option and it's working for you then good for you - your friend can butt out.

But when people go on diets they often regain all the weight again (and more). The yo-yo dieting cycle is pretty clear, right? But no one tells people not to go on diets because they might regain the weight.

SwingTheMonkey · 10/12/2024 13:42

tresales · 10/12/2024 13:24

you can tell the difference anyway, fit people are toned and people who lack willpower and use weightloss drugs don't exercise enough to have a toned midsection

😂

AlexaSetATimer · 10/12/2024 13:42

smallchange · 10/12/2024 12:15

There are some (some - NATPALT) people who wear their thinness as a badge of how virtuous they are, how self-denying, how self-controlled.

They have a genuine visceral disgust over fatness - the fat person is too much, slovenly, gluttonous, taking up too much space in the world.

It's not a healthy mindset, especially if something happens to them and they can no longer maintain the thinness that they need to be a good person.

I think that's where the "cheating" idea comes from. To her, weight loss should be a struggle against the dark forces of sin. A purification ritual of self-mortification and denial. Very mediaeval. Pay no mind. It's foolish and disordered thinking.

I know someone exactly like this. Nicey nice on the surface but her mask slips when she's had more than 3 Proseccos and then all the nasty comments come out.

She truly believes everyone should be thin and that fat people shouldn't get any medical help for anything at all until their BMI is normal. Even if the condition is completely unrelated to their weight. She's nuts.

Onceachunkymonkey · 10/12/2024 13:42

LadyKenya · 10/12/2024 13:38

I agree. I don't congratulate people if they have lost weight, it is not something that I would think of doing.

I do when I know the person has been trying, I always tell them they look great and how well they’ve done. I beleive in recognising the effort and I want my friends and family to feel good about themselves. I don’t do it if I don’t know why they’ve lost weight, but absolutely I do if someone has been trying, irrelevant of how they lost it.

Manypaws · 10/12/2024 13:43

It's none of their business, you do what makes you happy and ignore them

XWKD · 10/12/2024 13:44

How is it cheating? It's not a competition. It's none of her business. It's like someone with money being pissed off that you got a raise. She nasty and mean-spirited and you don't have to indulge her.

Nosyguest · 10/12/2024 13:46

Onceachunkymonkey · 10/12/2024 13:42

I do when I know the person has been trying, I always tell them they look great and how well they’ve done. I beleive in recognising the effort and I want my friends and family to feel good about themselves. I don’t do it if I don’t know why they’ve lost weight, but absolutely I do if someone has been trying, irrelevant of how they lost it.

I think it’s fine if someone is openly talking about their diet. But my wife has lost 7stone on munjarno and not told any colleagues that she’s been on it and trying. She’s bumping in to colleagues she’s not seen and they always comment and then ask if she’s on the injections - she is lol, but I find it so rude. I don’t like the whole oh you look great, implies you didn’t before.

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