Mounjaro offending close "friends"

[Hope78]

I have bitten the bullet and started using Mounjaro. I pay for it privately through a reputable private clinic , and in a nutshell its been incredible.

Long story as short as poss.... I'm a well built 5ft7 woman who has been anything from 10st to 13.7st over years , ideal weight 11st happy and feel good, have gone into perimenopause , started HRT and basically CANNOT shift stubborn 2st. I told my GP my plans and he agreed as BMI verging on obese (13st4) .....decision was 6 months in making with a LOT of research before starting it ....anyway ....

I have lost my first half stone ( in 10 days ) and with close friends at the weekend told them i was on the injection and how great i feel ( not just food noise but ADHD symptoms better too ) my friends were so happy for me bar one who could not hide her disgust. This person has a stunning figure, always been a petite size 8, always attracted a lot of male attention, and has been known to be quite fattest over the years to anyone chubby. She basically said it was cheating, said i would be fatter long term and i know that behind my back is slagging me off ..
I've always been confident despite my different weights but i did get a lot of compliments especially from other husbands of how well i looked , and it seemed to REALLY annoy her she has stopped messaging me as much and has declined Xmas invites for drinks at mine.
Its got me thinking that this injection is a real shift long term for men and women , but psychologically its maybe pissing off people that don't struggle????
Another friend was shocked i even told people but im not that sort of person , I'm an open book and chatty and don't see the point ? maybe i should have just kept my mouth shut ? AIBU to feel shocked and disappointed by this ?

Its a shame that people are opting for this and is easier, quicker and cheaper than fresh food and a personal trainer or doing a bit of exercise

The Mounjaro threads on here are full of people spending their money on the injections plus fresh food, personal trainer and gym membership, all at the same time. Lots of people doing it all!

We're going round in circles here. I need to get some work done so will bow out now. Have a good evening and best of luck with the weight loss, and to @FairyLightsInTheMist too :)

A very genuine thanks very much! It’s going well so far, so fingers crossed!

Not the ones I’m prescribing to but to be fair If it’s a start it’s a start and I’ve seen a handful of people come back and have switched their diet. Then there are ones that haven’t and wanted a quick fix but still eating their pies and fish and chips

My son still eats curry and pizza … only thing is it’s a once a fortnight treat. I sometimes have a bit of curry too, but my portion is on a side plate and mainly the meat and veg. I’ll have eaten salad or veg soup earlier in the day and am usually too full to much until very late the next day.

Of course there may be the odd idiot who misunderstand the meds, but I’ve not met anyone who has as the meds for longer than a few days before they realise their error - ie that they make you really ill if you eat high fat/high carb food - so am going to infer those clients are the ones that give up after a few months, rather than the hundreds of thousands of subjects that research has followed and shown that they not only lose the weight but have a higher than average chance of keeping it off compared to their traditional dieter counterparts.

be Careful, you’re showing you don’t know anything about the drugs, as eating that will make you have bad side effects

and if that’s the case then you wouldn’t be a prescriber now would you

I am assuming this person may administer the prescription requests, prescreen according to a clinical protocol as ‘clinical prescribers’ do in GP practices, but they are not actually a doctor or nurse practitioner so don’t actually understand the pharmaceutical nature of the medications themselves?

At least I hope to god they are, because the idea of a clinical professional being authorised to prescribe medications they do not understand is horrifying.

you don’t make sense. As a prescriber I will be advising possible side effects including what others have reported. This drug likes smaller portions and reduced carbs. People have reported different side effects to potatoes bread pasta pies etc so I will obviously explain that people experience different effects???!!!

Sounds like there's a competitive vibe between you and your friend/s.

There's a bit of an emphasis in your post about thinness attracting male attention and compliments from "especially" their "husbands".

If you’re in a role where you can prescribe drugs then I’m Angelina sodding Jolie.

This is batshit.

Yes, another one who thinks Autism and ADHD is diet related, rather than due to the biological and neurological make up you are born with. 🤦🏽‍♀️

Definitely not a clinically trained individual, if so.

Honestly I hope not. People claim to be all sorts on line, as a way to give credence to the stuff they post.

sorry to add, because you’d think they’d pick something up from the educated people round them, and this person, is very ill informed.

The only thing which would concern me is how Mounjaro impacts on the absorption & effectiveness of other medications.

I'm prescribed MJ for T2 diabetes. I also have some other autoimmune conditions which are treated with medication. The big one for me is warfarin which is highly reactive to pretty much everything (what, when, how much I eat or drink, the price of fish, the state of the £).

It is important that your GP is aware of all the medication you are taking.

Yes definitely - I went to into hyperthyroidism briefly this year (hair started to thin, so I am vain enough to call the GP about it). Apparently your thyroid replacement medication dose is calculated according to weight, so once I’d lost 4st I was taking too much. GP been brilliant though and I’ve been retested 3mly since. All my other bloods are amazing (‘optimal’) and I opted to pause my bHRT until I reached target as I know that can muddy things…. I reached target today. 15m and, starting BMI of 36.9 and I am now 24.8 BMI and 6stones

& 1/2lb lighter. That final half pound made all the difference!!

Wow!

@honeycrisp I may have cried a little. I weigh the same as I did on my wedding day more than 32 years ago - and will be my healthiest for years on my next birthday, which will make me the same age as my mother was when she died (from 25yrs of anorexia and chain smoking related emphysema). It’s a huge thing for me and why I am utterly grateful for the benefits these medications have conferred. Life changing. Life saving.

Just realised my wedding was only 22 years ago!! We’ve been together 32 years… but I was also this weight when we met. Clearly lost weight on my brain!!

Why don’t u! absolute vile

You do realised this drug is licenced on the NHs for type 2 diabetes. So you must be Angelina sodding jolie!

How am I?
I’ve clearly stated that some people do have bad side effects. Everyone is different. Not all drugs work the same in people. Don’t you know that?

Some do have an intolerance and cannot take it. Some it has little effect. You have clearly misread what I have said.

But you didn’t indicate that you were a prescriber in a setting where it was prescribed for diabetes. And, I assume, only for diabetes in an NHS setting?

You said you were a ‘prescriber’ and then expounded on people’s expectations with regard to weight loss - in a thread about these medications efficacy for weightloss. Under the NHS, yes, its prescribed for diabetes. If you are a prescriber in a GP surgery, ie administrating the issuing of prescriptions but having nothing to do with clinically authorising and screening patients for GLP1 medications for weight loss purposes, then your regaling us with the comments made by diabetic patients’ uninformed and hopeful expectations are misleading and irrelevant.

No. Again. Look at my threads. I commented on symptoms people get. I commented on the fact that people sometimes want a quick fix. Didn’t say it was wrong but a reality of today’s society. Processed food in our diets and being sold.

the potential side effects written on the medication are the same for weight loss whether it’s someone with diabetes or wanting weight loss and they can vary from person to person.

so no my comments are not misleading and irrelevant.

Yes they are misleading and irrelevant.

You are not a clinically trained specialist with any understanding of how these drugs work in non diabetic patients (or in diabetic ones). You are just spouting the ‘potential side effects’ which occur in rare incidence amongst thousands and tens of thousands of patients, per the info leaflets in each packet. Which can be checked and better understood by talking to an actual doctor and reading the research.

You are misrepresenting your expertise. Just stop it.