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Mounjaro offending close "friends"

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Hope78 · 10/12/2024 12:04

I have bitten the bullet and started using Mounjaro. I pay for it privately through a reputable private clinic , and in a nutshell its been incredible.

Long story as short as poss.... I'm a well built 5ft7 woman who has been anything from 10st to 13.7st over years , ideal weight 11st happy and feel good, have gone into perimenopause , started HRT and basically CANNOT shift stubborn 2st. I told my GP my plans and he agreed as BMI verging on obese (13st4) .....decision was 6 months in making with a LOT of research before starting it ....anyway ....

I have lost my first half stone ( in 10 days ) and with close friends at the weekend told them i was on the injection and how great i feel ( not just food noise but ADHD symptoms better too ) my friends were so happy for me bar one who could not hide her disgust. This person has a stunning figure, always been a petite size 8, always attracted a lot of male attention, and has been known to be quite fattest over the years to anyone chubby. She basically said it was cheating, said i would be fatter long term and i know that behind my back is slagging me off ..
I've always been confident despite my different weights but i did get a lot of compliments especially from other husbands of how well i looked , and it seemed to REALLY annoy her she has stopped messaging me as much and has declined Xmas invites for drinks at mine.
Its got me thinking that this injection is a real shift long term for men and women , but psychologically its maybe pissing off people that don't struggle????
Another friend was shocked i even told people but im not that sort of person , I'm an open book and chatty and don't see the point ? maybe i should have just kept my mouth shut ? AIBU to feel shocked and disappointed by this ?

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chipsaway · 17/12/2024 22:29

CautiousLurker01 · 17/12/2024 22:26

Yes they are misleading and irrelevant.

You are not a clinically trained specialist with any understanding of how these drugs work in non diabetic patients (or in diabetic ones). You are just spouting the ‘potential side effects’ which occur in rare incidence amongst thousands and tens of thousands of patients, per the info leaflets in each packet. Which can be checked and better understood by talking to an actual doctor and reading the research.

You are misrepresenting your expertise. Just stop it.

Please quote where I have been misleading in any of my threads!

CautiousLurker01 · 17/12/2024 22:35

chipsaway · 17/12/2024 22:29

Please quote where I have been misleading in any of my threads!

Well, for a start, there was:

Your reduced ADHD symptoms are probably likely to not being able to stomach the processed food.

🤦🏽‍♀️

Dovecare · 17/12/2024 22:37

Use a variation of the old saying as in " I will work hard to be slimmer at the end of next year (or maintained weight loss), but you will still be bitches (or ugly, if true)

chipsaway · 17/12/2024 22:46

CautiousLurker01 · 17/12/2024 22:35

Well, for a start, there was:

Your reduced ADHD symptoms are probably likely to not being able to stomach the processed food.

🤦🏽‍♀️

https://www.tewv.nhs.uk/about-your-care/conditions/adhd/diet/

a poster said themselves symptoms better with fresh food and making the correct choices. It’s even on an NHs website. Lots of it on Mr google about making healthy food choices. Google and NHS must be misleading and scaremongering too then 🤦‍♀️

ADHD and diet - Tees Esk and Wear Valley NHS Foundation Trust

Supporting the children and young people with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) maintain a healthy diet.

https://www.tewv.nhs.uk/about-your-care/conditions/adhd/diet

CautiousLurker01 · 17/12/2024 23:12

chipsaway · 17/12/2024 22:46

https://www.tewv.nhs.uk/about-your-care/conditions/adhd/diet/

a poster said themselves symptoms better with fresh food and making the correct choices. It’s even on an NHs website. Lots of it on Mr google about making healthy food choices. Google and NHS must be misleading and scaremongering too then 🤦‍♀️

Nope - I am AuDHD as are both of my children, our ADHD is not caused by ‘not being able to stomach processed food’.

The article you link actually opens with “Diet can not cause ADHD, nor can it cure it. However some changes in your child’s diet can affect their behaviour.’ I don’t dispute this.

However, the article is about the fact that in some children [not the adults who are posting here], certain foods may affect their behaviour. It does not say that ‘the inability to stomach food’ may increase or reduce ADHD symptoms, most of which have eff all to do with ‘behaviour’ in adults. Do you have any training in autism and ADHD? Do you know the difference between ‘symptoms’ and ‘behaviours’? Do you have any understanding of the difference in presentation and functioning between adults and children with ADHD? It is pretty fucking significant… so, again, I ask you to please just stop.

MiamiWindMachine · 17/12/2024 23:36

chipsaway · 17/12/2024 21:51

You do realised this drug is licenced on the NHs for type 2 diabetes. So you must be Angelina sodding jolie!

Of course I realise that. I just don’t believe YOU’RE in a prescribing role.

chipsaway · 17/12/2024 23:39

CautiousLurker01 · 17/12/2024 23:12

Nope - I am AuDHD as are both of my children, our ADHD is not caused by ‘not being able to stomach processed food’.

The article you link actually opens with “Diet can not cause ADHD, nor can it cure it. However some changes in your child’s diet can affect their behaviour.’ I don’t dispute this.

However, the article is about the fact that in some children [not the adults who are posting here], certain foods may affect their behaviour. It does not say that ‘the inability to stomach food’ may increase or reduce ADHD symptoms, most of which have eff all to do with ‘behaviour’ in adults. Do you have any training in autism and ADHD? Do you know the difference between ‘symptoms’ and ‘behaviours’? Do you have any understanding of the difference in presentation and functioning between adults and children with ADHD? It is pretty fucking significant… so, again, I ask you to please just stop.

Again, yet another person who has failed to read what I’ve said.

i never said for a minute it was caused by processed food! Please read the original thread again!!!

the poster said symptoms improved since taking it and making healthier food choices. I said it may be due to reduced processed food as the poster is making healthier choices.

This is also echoed by many websites and research that symptoms MAY improve however so far none of it suggests it causes ADHD.

How do you know I haven’t got ADHD??

CautiousLurker01 · 17/12/2024 23:48

chipsaway · 17/12/2024 23:39

Again, yet another person who has failed to read what I’ve said.

i never said for a minute it was caused by processed food! Please read the original thread again!!!

the poster said symptoms improved since taking it and making healthier food choices. I said it may be due to reduced processed food as the poster is making healthier choices.

This is also echoed by many websites and research that symptoms MAY improve however so far none of it suggests it causes ADHD.

How do you know I haven’t got ADHD??

I read the thread. I quoted YOUR comment (‘Your reduced ADHD symptoms are probably likely to not being able to stomach the processed food.’) and it is your comment I was taking issue with… which you invited me to do.

I repeat, yet again: please just stop banging on and claiming expertise (‘I am a prescriber’) about stuff you have no qualifications or clinical training in.

Am hiding this thread now as fed up with people who know very little preaching at and berating those of us who consulted experienced clinicians before deciding to use these medications.

chipsaway · 17/12/2024 23:55

No you haven’t read it properly. YET AGAIN!!!! 🤦‍♀️
You’ve only just quoted what I said. Yes please hide the thread. Probably for the best. You clearly do not know what you are talking about.

MattBerningerstrophywife · 18/12/2024 03:39

Yerroblemom1923 · 14/12/2024 14:10

What @Twoshoesnewshoes said. I think those of us who have struggled to keep our weight down via the medium of exercise and food denial will see this as"cheating". Unless, of course, you have been going to the gym/running etc etc and restricted your eating to 1000 cals a day on a long term basis - IF you HAVE been doing that and the weight still hasn't shifted then I'd consider it.
I think it just seems a kick in the teeth for those with the willpower and determination.
I'd still stay quiet though and not voice my concerns. At the end of the day she can achieve her weight goal without medical intervention and should be proud of that.

It’s really not a “kick in the teeth”. I think you’ve just lost what you perceive to be some sort of moral superiority that you think you deserve for being slim

AmIEnough · 18/12/2024 08:06

The open book thing is an ADHD thing I’m afraid. I have ADHD too and consistently over share! 🤣
I do feel that there seems to be a lot of jealousy or bad feeling towards people who are on these types of drugs as they consider it to be cheating. To be honest, I think your friend is not really your friend as she would be happy for you that you are trying to do something to better your health. I would try and concentrate my efforts in spending time with your other friends and try and put this one to the back of the pile much as that hurts. I wish you all the best.

Snkt · 18/12/2024 09:44

It’s not. There are many websites that you can get it off where you submit pictures of yourself and weight and they send it to you. They are not fraudulent and legal.

Snkt · 18/12/2024 09:46

Not for me to decide. It’s for their doctor. There are criteria they need to fit. My educated guess (as I have degrees in biomedical sciences and nutrition) is they need to be obese. Not just a little chubby and can’t be bothered to work out.

SilenceInside · 18/12/2024 09:48

@Snkt whose posts are you responding to?

Snkt · 18/12/2024 09:50

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colesr · 18/12/2024 09:55

You sound like a Karen. Lol
i have a bachelor’s in biomedical sciences and a masters in nutrition.

For someone so educated you sound very stupid with the first comment.

Onceachunkymonkey · 18/12/2024 09:59

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An important life skill is also recognising misgynisitc slurs and being able to control yourself enough not to hurl them at other women.

SilenceInside · 18/12/2024 10:12

A lecture on the importance of critical thinking is utterly ironic...

@Snkt you don't need to guess, the prescribing criteria are easily available. You need to be obese with a BMI of 30 or more, or 27 with weight related health issues or 27 if you are one of a list of specific ethnicities.

When I said that it is always prescribed by a doctor, what I was referring to is the fact that all online prescribers have doctors review all applications before they are prescribed. It is approved by a doctor, by all GPhC registered online pharmacies.

JusteanBiscuits · 18/12/2024 12:01

SilenceInside · 18/12/2024 10:12

A lecture on the importance of critical thinking is utterly ironic...

@Snkt you don't need to guess, the prescribing criteria are easily available. You need to be obese with a BMI of 30 or more, or 27 with weight related health issues or 27 if you are one of a list of specific ethnicities.

When I said that it is always prescribed by a doctor, what I was referring to is the fact that all online prescribers have doctors review all applications before they are prescribed. It is approved by a doctor, by all GPhC registered online pharmacies.

Yes. Mine is prescribed by a prescribing pharmacist, but it was a consultant that initially prescribed and it is overseen by a GP. I am guessing a diabetes nurse would be able to prescribe it too though.

GnomeDePlume · 18/12/2024 16:28

JusteanBiscuits · 18/12/2024 12:01

Yes. Mine is prescribed by a prescribing pharmacist, but it was a consultant that initially prescribed and it is overseen by a GP. I am guessing a diabetes nurse would be able to prescribe it too though.

My diabetes nurse recommended mounjaro but it was still my GP who did the actual prescribing.

JusteanBiscuits · 18/12/2024 16:30

GnomeDePlume · 18/12/2024 16:28

My diabetes nurse recommended mounjaro but it was still my GP who did the actual prescribing.

I know of prescribing nurses in the diabetes service who are able to prescribe it is all

getthosetitsup · 18/12/2024 21:35

"I know of prescribing nurses in the diabetes service who are able to prescribe it is all"

Yes, my DSN has prescribed it for me.

Snkt · 19/12/2024 20:27

well then if we could all read a few lines online as well as you we’d all be doctors.. but we are not.

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