Mounjaro offending close "friends"

[Hope78]

I have bitten the bullet and started using Mounjaro. I pay for it privately through a reputable private clinic , and in a nutshell its been incredible.

Long story as short as poss.... I'm a well built 5ft7 woman who has been anything from 10st to 13.7st over years , ideal weight 11st happy and feel good, have gone into perimenopause , started HRT and basically CANNOT shift stubborn 2st. I told my GP my plans and he agreed as BMI verging on obese (13st4) .....decision was 6 months in making with a LOT of research before starting it ....anyway ....

I have lost my first half stone ( in 10 days ) and with close friends at the weekend told them i was on the injection and how great i feel ( not just food noise but ADHD symptoms better too ) my friends were so happy for me bar one who could not hide her disgust. This person has a stunning figure, always been a petite size 8, always attracted a lot of male attention, and has been known to be quite fattest over the years to anyone chubby. She basically said it was cheating, said i would be fatter long term and i know that behind my back is slagging me off ..
I've always been confident despite my different weights but i did get a lot of compliments especially from other husbands of how well i looked , and it seemed to REALLY annoy her she has stopped messaging me as much and has declined Xmas invites for drinks at mine.
Its got me thinking that this injection is a real shift long term for men and women , but psychologically its maybe pissing off people that don't struggle????
Another friend was shocked i even told people but im not that sort of person , I'm an open book and chatty and don't see the point ? maybe i should have just kept my mouth shut ? AIBU to feel shocked and disappointed by this ?

Why did you have to include ADHD????

This analogy is so wrong on so many levels I can't leave it - though I should, because these threads will always fill up with the same misinformation and judgement and correcting it won't help.

But please consider - you have tried hard all your life and succeeded. Some of us have tried hard all our lives and failed. You know that a strong predictor of obesity is going on a diet, so many if not most of the overweight and obese people you see have spent a lot of time, energy and effort on restricting food. I went on my first diet aged nine. I've held gym membership since I was sixteen. I have lived off 700 calories a day and watched my body waste away; I've tried every single plan and diet and 'lifestyle change' you can list. I've cut out everything in turn, I have turned down birthday cake and let celebrations pass while eating nothing just like you. The times when I have fallen off that diet wagon, the awful troughs in the binge-restrict merry-go-round I've spent my life as an unwilling passenger on, regaining the weight I lost plus so much more every time - these were not carefree periods of my life when I was happily indulging and enjoying food. Food has always been a source of shame, guilt, panic and sadness. As the periods between restriction became increasingly uncontrollable and frightening, I wasn't having a great time while you were slogging away denying yourself. Eating and gaining weight have been demons that really took hold of my life for over thirty years. The respite that Mounjaro gives is like nothing else, and for the first time ever all the therapy and mental health support I've tried over the decades to manage this disordered eating actually has space and peace to work. For the first time, it's making a difference because the medication allows me to engage, allows me to step off the exhausting and relentless cycle that has held me in place getting fatter and fatter for my entire teenage and adult life.

Nothing about that was a 'gift', nothing about the place I find myself in now is less hard-earned than someone who has restricted their whole life and managed to avoid the binge-and-gain pattern so stayed slim. I was trying hard too, I was just sinking while perhaps you managed to stay afloat. Someone throwing me a life ring after thirty years isn't 'cheating'.

I've never seen such demand for a drug that your GP won't give you.

My GP wants to give me it. It's been approved in Scotland but hasn't been added to the approved prescription list under my health board so I cannot get it from the GP, yet.

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@ThrillhouseVanHouten it's not that GPs won't give it to you, they usually can't. Often they are supportive of people getting a private prescription for it, or even suggest that they do if they can afford it.

Have you not seen any of the articles about private prescriptions for testosterone, for men and women? Private prescribing from online pharmacies has existed for many years and for many different medications. Further regulation of this is not an argument against this one specific medication.

I think the injections pose a threat to those who feel superior by dint of being thin.

I say this as someone with no skin in the game. Well done @Hope78

People who are naturally skinny or manage their weight by diet and exercise alone have been socialised by society to have a moral high ground. To think that they are just better people than 'lazy' fat people. Now they are all having meltdowns because the availability of weight loss medications that aren't just laxatives and actually address the physical cause of obesity or being overweight for those who struggle is making them realise that it is nothing to do with morals.
It says more about your friend than it does you. Be glad the trash took itself out!

Yeah is there some kind of superiority to have to make things more difficult . If these jabs work then why not use them?

I was referencing people who wouldn't be able to get it from a GP because they don't meet the criteria, i.e. not having sufficient weight to lose.

You need to go and see a therapist

"I was referencing people who wouldn't be able to get it from a GP because they don't meet the criteria, i.e. not having sufficient weight to lose."

They have to be over a certain BMI to pay for it privately.

This medication isn't just doled out like sweeties. Even the private payers have to prove they need it.

She's not your real friend - i absolutely support any friend who feels this is good for them - and im pretty thin myself, women should support each other, not tear each other down. Well done to you OP - good luck.

Who do you want it to count with, do you expect praise and recognition from other people for your own individual efforts to maintain a certain figure? Why do you need that and need other people's methods and battles to mean less or count less than yours?

I know this type of woman. She gets very threatened when another woman starts to lose weight.

To clarify, im in my mid 40s and since going on oestragen the weight gain, bloating and slower metabolism has hindered weight loss ( i've been dieting since the 90s and in years gone by could usually get any weight gain off with restrictions )
@Eddy334 the reason i mention ADHD is the drug is also show to help the symptoms ( which are exacerbated in menopause like weight gain ) as it reduces all noise not just food noise , and it was to add to the fact that as a friendship circle i felt this was also a benefit to me along with the weight loss and would have been welcomed by friends as it is helping me.
@TriangleLight i think you have absolutely hit the nail on the head.

My BMI was not considered dangerous enough to warrant my GP prescribing, but he did fully support my decision. Obesity is a gene in my family tree as is heart disease and diabetes ( both my parents have passed away and my mother to early cardiac arrest )

I'm on the fence about this but your friend has definitely had an extreme reaction.

I wouldn't take it personally as your body will stop naturally making the hormone that controls hunger (it's being provided by the injection) so you need to stay on it for life ... when you come off it, it's highly likely you will pile the weight back on and more (watch the Jillian Michaels interview on weight loss injections - they pretty much all work the same way)

That being said, you're a grown adult capable of doing your own research and your own decisions. If you find this is your only option and it's working for you then good for you - your friend can butt out.

So your weight is not currently affecting - or threatening to effect - your health, mobility or quality of life then?

When those on the injections eventually reach the stage where they no longer need it, they will have exactly the same "struggle" of maintaining their healthy weight.

In the meantime they are simply trying to get on the same level playing field as you, and maybe live a bit longer and happier.

She's no friend, just jealous and bitchy. Why give a fuck what she thinks?

The skinnies are just scared they aren't special anymore.

Congrats OP! Here's to a healthier you!

Honestly I was on Mounjaro for 4 months and lost 3 stone.
It's been a lifesaver for me.
Struggled with an awful relationship with food for most of my life stemming from childhood.
I feel like a normal person who's life doesn't revolve around food it's fantastic.
Those who have never had issues with their weight will never understand how well consuming it can be.
So anyone else's opinion really is not important, your body your decision.
My only advice is I went from 14.7 to 11.5 and now have got gallstones (horrific pain) so just try not to lose it too quickly!

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I imagine she puts in a huge amount of effort to be slim and is pissed off you're getting it without the effort.

She sounds mean. I'm a size 8 without ever being on a diet or thinking about food (tbh I forget to eat) and I think these injections are great because they basically give everyone a healthy attitude to food and cut out the food noise (which I know people like my DH struggles with)! It levels the playing field. Win win

TBH I know from experience that the desperation to lose weight can be SO intense and that being fat and obese especially be so detrimental to someone’s mental - I wouldn’t care how they play the weight whether surgery or completely without medical assistance- just calorie counting - as long as the outcome made them feel better

Pharmacist have the same criteria

Sorry meant to say mental health **. in the above post