Mounjaro offending close "friends"

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I have bitten the bullet and started using Mounjaro. I pay for it privately through a reputable private clinic , and in a nutshell its been incredible.

Long story as short as poss.... I'm a well built 5ft7 woman who has been anything from 10st to 13.7st over years , ideal weight 11st happy and feel good, have gone into perimenopause , started HRT and basically CANNOT shift stubborn 2st. I told my GP my plans and he agreed as BMI verging on obese (13st4) .....decision was 6 months in making with a LOT of research before starting it ....anyway ....

I have lost my first half stone ( in 10 days ) and with close friends at the weekend told them i was on the injection and how great i feel ( not just food noise but ADHD symptoms better too ) my friends were so happy for me bar one who could not hide her disgust. This person has a stunning figure, always been a petite size 8, always attracted a lot of male attention, and has been known to be quite fattest over the years to anyone chubby. She basically said it was cheating, said i would be fatter long term and i know that behind my back is slagging me off ..
I've always been confident despite my different weights but i did get a lot of compliments especially from other husbands of how well i looked , and it seemed to REALLY annoy her she has stopped messaging me as much and has declined Xmas invites for drinks at mine.
Its got me thinking that this injection is a real shift long term for men and women , but psychologically its maybe pissing off people that don't struggle????
Another friend was shocked i even told people but im not that sort of person , I'm an open book and chatty and don't see the point ? maybe i should have just kept my mouth shut ? AIBU to feel shocked and disappointed by this ?

How on earth can you read comments like @Yerroblemom1923 and not think that lots of slim people think they’re morally superior?!

You live in cloud cuckoo land!

At the risk of getting more stones hurled at me (for the record, I don't care whether people get WLIs or not! Good for them!) I think it's linked to the huge pressure society has placed on women to be slim over the last couple of decades. Through the 90s and 2000s EVERYTHING was geared towards being skinny. Can you really not see that somebody who felt that they had 'played by the rules' and done that and deprived themselves could be triggered by the fact that all that struggle could be fixed by an injection? There are clearly A LOT of women who are triggered on this post in the other direction, is it so hard to understand that women may be triggered the other way? That they also may have a complex relationship with food and body image due to societal pressure? You can't help what feelings you feel. And again, for the record, I am fully in support of overweight people being offered WLI (not only for them, but for the NHS), but I know people who would find the concept triggering.

Can you really not see that somebody who felt that they had 'played by the rules' and done that and deprived themselves could be triggered by the fact that all that struggle could be fixed by an injection?

Even after all the posts from people actually using this medication saying otherwise, STILL the “it can all be fixed by an injection” line is being trotted out. Why do you or anyone think they know better than those actually using these meds?

Once again for those at the back - Mounjaro is NOT a magic fat blasting injection. It does not work like antibiotics. A pizza is still pizza; chocolate is still chocolate. And you still need to exercise if you want to burn calories.

You just. Get. Fuller. Quicker. And for longer. That’s literally it.

I have type 2 diabetes. I have struggled my whole life with my weight. It HAS got something to do with genes and it’s not what you eat!
At 8 years old I was obese. My parents were large and had 4 children. 2 were adopted and 2 were biological…… guess who’s always been thin?

Anyway….. finding out I had diabetes, was not nice. Especially when I didn’t have a bad diet and did ALOT of walking.

The doctor finally put me on metformin and Rybelsus (Ozempic) and in over a year I’ve lost 4 stone. It reduces your appetite and sends strong signals to your brain when you’re full….. it doesn’t dissolve fat 🤦🏻‍♀️….. and there are side effects that can be unpleasant….. plus you still have to exercise!

I’ve not had anyone say anything bad to me, but I do worry about telling people how I’ve lost so much weight.

People who have a problem are jealous. It’s not cheating when you’ve struggled all your life with your weight, dieting and exercise. Personally, I’d just leave her to her own devices, she’s not your friend, if she’s not going to be supportive.

So who’s paying for these injections???

OP.

Well done! This sounds positive for you. I have struggled with my weight all my adult life. People often say I am lucky that I have a nice figure, I say it is not naturally nice I constantly have to regulate what I eat and exercise a lot! I wonder if this woman is like me, whereas I think whatever works is fantastic, perhaps she is cross that she is putting in all that work and sees you as having it easy? Alternatively it is possible she has an eating disorder, controlling what she eats may give her power. Whatever the reason it is not good for a person to be focussing on another persons life style/health choices.
I would be tempted to keep a bit of a distance from her. Enjoy feeling and looking healthy

Awww she’s threatened by another woman becoming empowered and bettering herself.

Screw her. She is not a friend.

Yep, been there. A lot of slimmers have a person in their life who wants them to stay the fat friend because it makes them feel better. I had a friend like that. I binned her off.

I have two friends on this and both have told me and both times I have been like, oh wow, good for you if it works for you. Let me know how it goes. Btw you look amazing. This so called friend is a being a bitch. Not your friend, regardless of what she thinks about the procedure. A true friend that had any concerns would speak to you privately if she felt that strongly and then leave you an adult to make your own decisions

This person is not your friend. Friends are meant to lift you up and support you. Good luck on the rest of your WL journey OP.

Cool. They'll still be triggered :)

Get the results without the payoff WTEF. Everyone still has to watch what they eat and exercise it is not a magic fat melting drug. Do some research.

Can you really not see that somebody who felt that they had 'played by the rules' and done that and deprived themselves could be triggered by the fact that all that struggle could be fixed by an injection?

I'll swap them = happily.

I'll have their lifetime of health and they can have 25 years of feeling shit and ashamed of their very existence. Of hating themselves as they ate. Of turning down opportunities and events because they cannot face how awful they look and feel. They can have my genetics and watch their mum slowly robbed of her legs through diabetes, all the while feeling sick that they are also looking at their own future. They can have all that, but 'enjoy' food all they like and take the magic drug (costing them £150pm of course) that makes it all better for them.

I'll take the decades of health and £150pm more each month now.

Genuinely.

Too easy to get? My DD is struggling to get it from one pharmacy and she DOES qualify but is having to show all sorts of proof, photos, letters from doctors etc. Do not believe all you read online or papers.

I don’t know how many more times this needs to be pointed out. People who are overweight haven’t all got there by shoving cake and crisps down their throat 24/7. Lots have had years of dieting, depriving, losing, joining gyms, putting weight back on, rinse and repeat. There seems to be this idea that overweight people have had it easy. They ate the cake, whilst their thin friend abstained. They were carefree. I can assure you, lots weren’t.
For, what I imagine, is a large number of overweight people, life has been shit, weight wise. A constant struggle. There’s been no years of eating whatever the fuck we want, watching the weight pile on and laughing as we eat yet another cheeseburger.
For me, it’s been fucking awful. An almost lifetime of literally despising myself. Never being able to look in a mirror. Never having photos taken of myself with my children. I’ve said no to puddings whilst those around me indulged, I’ve had the willpower not to snack, I haven’t eaten chocolate or sweets. And I’ve still become overweight.
But now there’s a light at the end of the tunnel. After starting WLI, I finally feel like I’m slightly comfortable in my own skin. I’ve got confidence I haven’t had for years. I feel healthier and can exercise with ease. I feel like I’ve got things under control and I’m excited for my future. I’ve started having my nails done and wearing makeup after years of self neglect.
But you tell me how you’ve struggled to maintain a healthy weight and how unfair it is I’ve got this magic jab that lets me be slim, like I don’t deserve this. How fucking dare you. I’ve struggled too, I can assure you.

I Went to buy it online before I spoke to a doctor. I was asked what I weighed and that was it. They kept reassuring me that they wouldn’t tell my doctor unless I wanted them to.

It was very, very easy.

Your friend would have gone funny whichever way you have lost weight, it’s coming from a place of jealously/feeling threatened. Don’t let her get you down.
Ive piled weight on the last few years due to stopping smoking and injury. I have a friend who has recently lost a lot of weight and looks amazing, I am happy for her and not being a dick about it !
keep going OP and best of luck !

That’ll be cracked down upon over the coming months, according to the government, so don’t fret petal.

Weight loss injections should actually be called 'Insulin regulators'

Because that is their overarching function - regulating insulin processes that don't work properly, to fix the process of how the body metabolises food and sugar.

Mounjaro - the current most common 'weight loss injection' - does three main things;

1: regulates insulin production and makes it more effective
2: enables glucose to be processed where this was previously sub-optimal - leading to increase satiety levels and less stored as fat
3: slows down digestive transit to stabilise blood sugar from peaks

Appetite suppression is a side effect.
There are also receptors that are boosted to the brain to say 'no more
Fuel needed, we are good, thanks' .

They are so helpful to chronically obese people (like me) because these things don't work properly in people who are long term obese,

Either because they never did, or the excess weight caused them to malfunction,

I was overweight from aged 4 and put on my first diet pills when I was 9 or 10 (I'm 56 now).

The 'eat less, move more' mantra is too simplistic if your body can't properly process the food it's receiving,

I am highly educated and very successful - weight has been the one thing I've never managed to control long term, despite drive, ambition and success elsewhere.

Now I can, and I can look forward to much less risk from weight related illnesses as I age.

I hope more and more people can benefit and live longer too as a result.

No I still don't get it, because the slim women were the 'winners' in that societal contest and they didn't want to be fat. So there's nothing for them to envy fat women for - this is the bit I get stuck on when trying to imagine it. Everyone was feeling that pressure and that misery, but some women succeeded where others could not. Again - you have to seriously believe that becoming obese is enjoyable to think that way, and I don't see how anyone could believe that. Given the horror with which so many women regard weight gain, obese women have been living the nightmare not the dream. So I just cannot possibly understand the mindset, even a tiny bit, that begrudges them the opportunity to change that at zero cost to anyone else.

Pop over to AIBU and read the thread on on wli cheating, you will get it immediately, many of them on there, explaining how miserable their lives apparently are. About how hard they struggle. How they think of food constantly. How they work so hard, how they suffer such deprivation. That tney resent and envy on anyone on tne drugs and perceive it as cheating.

I shit you not.

I think it just seems a kick in the teeth for those with the willpower and determination

If you can interpret someone getting medical intervention to improve their health at no cost to you as 'a kick in the teeth' I think you must just be such an awful person, truly.

I've had that sort of thing said to me because I'm slim. I would be sat eating a big sandwich for lunch, and my colleagues would nibble diet crackers and lettuce, trying to lose weight, only to munch chocolate bars at 3pm. They felt they were making an effort, sometimes failing, while i had it easy.
I did have it easy - i hate sitting still, don't enjoy eating rich food. I stop when I'm full, in fact i can't eat any more. I do like puddings - but i can't eat them if i have a big first course. It's not willpower- i literally can't swallow any more. From what i have heard, these new medicines give you that "stop" sign.

I am so glad those of you who struggle with your weight now have an effective treatment and can enjoy your own bodies.

I get that they were and are miserable, that makes sense. But how can't they see that all of us were miserable, some of us slim and miserable and some of us fat and miserable? And if they think our misery is so much better, they can get to a BMI of 30 and then take jabs if they imagine it's so much fun. I somehow don't think anyone will..??!