Mounjaro offending close "friends"

[Hope78]

I have bitten the bullet and started using Mounjaro. I pay for it privately through a reputable private clinic , and in a nutshell its been incredible.

Long story as short as poss.... I'm a well built 5ft7 woman who has been anything from 10st to 13.7st over years , ideal weight 11st happy and feel good, have gone into perimenopause , started HRT and basically CANNOT shift stubborn 2st. I told my GP my plans and he agreed as BMI verging on obese (13st4) .....decision was 6 months in making with a LOT of research before starting it ....anyway ....

I have lost my first half stone ( in 10 days ) and with close friends at the weekend told them i was on the injection and how great i feel ( not just food noise but ADHD symptoms better too ) my friends were so happy for me bar one who could not hide her disgust. This person has a stunning figure, always been a petite size 8, always attracted a lot of male attention, and has been known to be quite fattest over the years to anyone chubby. She basically said it was cheating, said i would be fatter long term and i know that behind my back is slagging me off ..
I've always been confident despite my different weights but i did get a lot of compliments especially from other husbands of how well i looked , and it seemed to REALLY annoy her she has stopped messaging me as much and has declined Xmas invites for drinks at mine.
Its got me thinking that this injection is a real shift long term for men and women , but psychologically its maybe pissing off people that don't struggle????
Another friend was shocked i even told people but im not that sort of person , I'm an open book and chatty and don't see the point ? maybe i should have just kept my mouth shut ? AIBU to feel shocked and disappointed by this ?

The issue thin folks have is until the advent of the drugs, they were not wandering round telling everyone how miserable their lives were, how hard it was, about all their issues with food, nope. A few might, but on the whole they were acting superior. This is what to eat, this is what to drink, this is how to exercise, this is how you do it.

but now we are all doing it, they are all giving it, but my life is so hard, what about me, me me. If I can’t have it then no one should.

it just doesn’t fly. If we were awash with folks complaining about it before, we’d all get it. But let’s face the unpalatable truth. We weren’t. We were faced with smugness.

@Probablyfinebutworried I agree, there are a lot of people who are size 8 (or smaller) who are maintaining that size at immense cost, I don't mean just exercising or healthy eating but things like bulimia (which ravages the body) or extremely disordered eating. Then taking exercise to an extreme, where you would continue to run for example through injury (because being thin is more important than your cruciate ligament). Utter madness.

There are more people around like this than you think. But they will plaster on a front that portrays that they achieved the results through discipline and training.

So a person like this sees these miracle injections - and if they are honest they want to get straight on them. But they are (quite rightly) not designed for anorexics and so they can't get a prescription and by asking for one you are outing yourself as an anorexic and the careful constructed front of - 'oh I am just lucky that I have a great metabolism and just love training, honestly I forget to eat, starts to crumble.

I am past all that. I am still not happy with the way I look but I am over being a perfect size 6 with cheekbones, it would both physically and mentally kill me to do it.

So when I see threads like this and similar that old familiar voice pops up - maybe you could go online and buy some and just use it to lose 5 kilos... that way liies misery.

I think you might mean me. But you’ve completely misquoted me if you do mean me. I said how fucking dare someone tell me I don’t deserve the medication. I’ve struggled for years too. Not how dare they be triggered by the existence of them. Although I do think a person who is triggered by something really ought to do themselves a favour by staying away from talking about the thing that triggers them…

Hmm they said 'how fucking dare' someone be triggered, did they actually say no one thin can have an eating disorder? That bit doesn't sound very likely? I also think - how fucking dare anyone be triggered by people receiving healthcare. I think it's absolutely fucking outrageous to be angry about it. It doesn't mean I don't think that person has suffered, but I think they are miles out of of order for protesting about other people receiving the medication they need to improve their health.

Ah OK, yeah I suspected that probablyfinebutworried was wildly misrepresenting a quote there!

I agree, there are a lot of people who are size 8 (or smaller) who are maintaining that size at immense cost, I don't mean just exercising or healthy eating but things like bulimia (which ravages the body) or extremely disordered eating.

And there are a lot of people in obese bodies who got there at immense cost via terribly disordered eating as well. Bulimia often leads to weight gain. Binge Eating Disorder is extremely damaging and uncontrollable and drags sufferers into obesity @CoatedinIron - there needs to be recognition and compassion to everyone having difficulty with food and their bodies.

@FairyLightsInTheMist completely agree as we just ultimately on different ends of the same spectrum, our weight has taken over our lives and is destroying our physical and mental health.

I have absolutely nothing against people being prescribed weight loss drugs. I have friends and family taking them and I honestly and sincerely hope they work well without too many side effects. I think, however, they do need to continue to be regulated as they are. In the hands of anorexics they could cause untold health problems.

why do you care what she says? she’s shown her true colours so believe her and cut her out!

How fucking dare anyone be triggered by...

You can't help what you're triggered by, that's the whole point!!!!!!! Triggers are not rational!!!!!

@FairyLightsInTheMist @SwingTheMonkey I don’t know how many more times this needs to be pointed out. People who are overweight haven’t all got there by shoving cake and crisps down their throat 24/7. Lots have had years of dieting, depriving, losing, joining gyms, putting weight back on, rinse and repeat. There seems to be this idea that overweight people have had it easy. They ate the cake, whilst their thin friend abstained. They were carefree. I can assure you, lots weren’t.
For, what I imagine, is a large number of overweight people, life has been shit, weight wise. A constant struggle. There’s been no years of eating whatever the fuck we want, watching the weight pile on and laughing as we eat yet another cheeseburger.
For me, it’s been fucking awful. An almost lifetime of literally despising myself. Never being able to look in a mirror. Never having photos taken of myself with my children. I’ve said no to puddings whilst those around me indulged, I’ve had the willpower not to snack, I haven’t eaten chocolate or sweets. And I’ve still become overweight.
But now there’s a light at the end of the tunnel. After starting WLI, I finally feel like I’m slightly comfortable in my own skin. I’ve got confidence I haven’t had for years. I feel healthier and can exercise with ease. I feel like I’ve got things under control and I’m excited for my future. I’ve started having my nails done and wearing makeup after years of self neglect.
But you tell me how you’ve struggled to maintain a healthy weight and how unfair it is I’ve got this magic jab that lets me be slim, like I don’t deserve this. How fucking dare you. I’ve struggled too, I can assure you. It was this quote I was referring to. All I am hearing in this is that slim people aren't allowed to be triggered by these jabs, because they are slim. This isn't the only example of this in the thread by the way, it's in lots of replies.

Then you are badly misreading what you've quoted. You have put a meaning on that which isn't even remotely there!

This was all based on an imagined scenario on the part of one poster, so doesn't actually exist anyway.

Triggered = I don't like it.

Yeah, all you've illustrated is that you’ve completely misquoted me. It clearly says how fucking fed up I am being told I don’t deserve this drug because it’s ‘cheating’, as if I’ve spent my life eating whatever I please with no consideration of my body and haven’t struggled with my weight, even if I haven’t ultimately won.

Sorry, but if you’ve misunderstood what I’ve written - that’s on you, it was perfectly clear.

Then help yourself by staying away from what you’re triggered by? Surely?

Your reduced ADHD symptoms are probably likely to not being able to stomach the processed food anymore. Bread for example.

good for u that you have found something that works and your friend should be cheering you on not sniping at you.

on the other hand as someone who is a prescriber of this drug. Its a shame that people are opting for this and is easier, quicker and cheaper than fresh food and a personal trainer or doing a bit of exercise as lots of us claim we don’t have the time anymore.

people don’t want to wait for results. They want a quick fix

it saddens me hugely if you’re genuinely a prescriber and have so little understanding of obesity and think it is just a quick fix and we should all be doing a bit of exercise and eating less.

I really hope you’re not a prescriber. Because if you are you should be ashamed and take time to educate yourself

Yes. This.

Was nicer than my response.

little minded.

you clearly haven’t read my post properly clearly!

yes I am a prescriber. I have seen people desperately to lose weight but due to increased work load, family commitments, having young children, parents etc and I have been that person.

it’s about finding the time and sticking to a routine and as someone who was once overweight I’ve seen the results myself.

ive also seen people turn up still wanting to eat chip butties and processed food wondering why it’s not working!

look at what is being sold to us in the supermarket and on TV. Processed food. Margarine that claims to lower cholesterol, cereal with added protein.

wake Up! Look at what we are being sold in the supermarkets!

I don’t need to wake up, thank you. Whilst UPF are no doubt causing us all a great deal of harm, eat less/better/move more doesn’t work for a great deal of people. But I guess you’re not an expert, you’re just someone who claims to work in a chemist.

Prescriber 😂

FYI! I don’t work in a chemist! As stated and read my posts I’ve been that person
look at the food you are eating. not necessarily eating less moving more but look at what u are eating!