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Friend can never be happy for my child

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Snowballing1 · 09/12/2024 08:11

I have a friend whose dd is in the same class as mine. This woman is very successful in her field & has always had very high expectations for her dd. From a very young age she would compare hers with mine & hers would always be superior.
However as the years went on my dd became very competent at her sport & is now competing nationally . She is also chosen for a lot of things at school & has been given recognition for her sporting achievements.
Many parents in the class have text or had a kind word to say but zero from this friend & she's been like that for a number of years.
She just cannot bring herself to say anything nice about my child.
If we meet I never mention dds achievements, I'm don't put posts on social media (but the school have posted quite a bit over the years of dd but said woman has never liked or commented)
Aibu to be a bit flummoxed?

OP posts:
fairycakes1234 · 09/12/2024 16:59

arethereanyleftatall · 09/12/2024 13:34

" I just didn't mention that my dd was finished the levels & onto free reading chapter bo

Can you really not see op that you do the exact same boasting you say you don't like your friend doing?

You have deliberately shoehorned in to a group of internet strangers, who have no interest, how far ahead your dd is at reading. Your example could have been simply that your dd was ahead of group 5, that would have sufficed for your story. But no, you needed everyone to know that she was free reading Harry Potter.

So, the reason you are upset about it, is because the two of you do the exact same thing and neither can bear it.

What an incredible stupid post, she's giving context, why woukd anyone care she's reading Harry Potter, you actually sound jealous of a child you don't know 🤣

Julimia · 09/12/2024 17:02

Do you really need to be bothered? Your daughter is fine, doing fine. No comment from her is all about her not about your daughter. Stop fretting over such a non issue. Enjoy your daughters success.

Sushu · 09/12/2024 20:16

fairycakes1234 · 09/12/2024 16:59

What an incredible stupid post, she's giving context, why woukd anyone care she's reading Harry Potter, you actually sound jealous of a child you don't know 🤣

How can you be jealous of a child you don’t know? This might not even be real. None of this might be real. It’s the internet!

fairycakes1234 · 09/12/2024 20:53

Sushu · 09/12/2024 20:16

How can you be jealous of a child you don’t know? This might not even be real. None of this might be real. It’s the internet!

That's what I said??

ChocolateAddictAlways · 09/12/2024 20:58

Scully01 · 09/12/2024 16:34

I don't think I could be friends with someone like this. A good friend should still ask about your kids out of basic politeness, even if not interested. This seems so childish, and just plain mean. Jealousy in adults is a really ugly trait.

Spot on. It really is a very ugly trait.

BeWittyRobin · 09/12/2024 21:23

Snowballing1 · 09/12/2024 08:47

If you read my post you will see her dd is in the same class as mine. She was extremely competitive when they were younger , I ignored & never played along. She stopped when my dd started to become established in her sport & seems to be chosen a lot for events in school too

But that doesn’t really explain why you care so much. Personally seems rather silly to care so much. Is she actually a friend of yours or a mum a school/nursery, a playground friend?! I would never congratulate a child on a parent school WhatsApp group, nor would I expect someone to do the same regardless of my child’s achievement, especially for a sport. But then I suppose im not a ‘sports,’ kinda mum. I would however acknowledge the individual child for an act of kindness that may be mentioned.

i don’t see it as jealousy or malicious. I see it that rightly so your child is your world and you are obviously very proud but your child and their achievements whether locally or nationally isn’t important to them and that’s not a crime, nor does it make them rude or nasty. It doesn’t sound from your post that you are close friends so not sure why her acknowledgment is important to you. You did say they were extremely competitive when the children were younger and you didn’t bite into it, maybe she’s grown up a little and realised how annoying it is?! You do sound rather silly, who actually has time to be bothered about something so daft. Every child has its own achievements why is it so important to you for other to acknowledge them, and take umbridge with those who don’t or haven’t. I’m sorry but it’s extremely annoying and self righteous Xx

lifeturnsonadime · 09/12/2024 21:43

8i don’t see it as jealousy or malicious. I see it that rightly so your child is your world and you are obviously very proud but your child and their achievements whether locally or nationally isn’t important to them and that’s not a crime, nor does it make them rude or nasty. It doesn’t sound from your post that you are close friends so not sure why her acknowledgment is important to you. You did say they were extremely competitive when the children were younger and you didn’t bite into it, maybe she’s grown up a little and realised how annoying it is?! You do sound rather silly, who actually has time to be bothered about something so daft. Every child has its own achievements why is it so important to you for other to acknowledge them, and take umbridge with those who don’t or haven’t. I’m sorry but it’s extremely annoying and self righteous Xx*

100% this.

Op is setting herself up to be disappointed by holding unreasonable demands.

SouthLondonMum22 · 09/12/2024 22:02

It sounds like your DD gets plenty of recognition from plenty of people. Why can’t that be enough?

GreenTeaLikesMe · 10/12/2024 00:13

Am I the only one who is profoundly puzzled by the idea that other people "must be" jealous of parents who have a high-achieving-in-their-chosen-extra-curricular child?

Whenever I hear of cases like this, I have to say that I find myself privately thinking "Poor bastards."

I know a couple of families like this. It costs an absolute fortune and takes over the family schedule, with the financial burden and time requirements getting more extreme as time goes on. Other siblings in the family get shafted - they either get pressured into taking up the same activity (at a lower level) and feeling like a pale imitation of their sibling, or spend a lot of their life being carted around to an activity they have no active role in. Inevitably, one parent starts wanting to drop or scale back the activity after a while, but the other parent insists that the family has to keep going, partly I think because of the sunk-cost issue - so much money has been chucked into this activity so far that it becomes harder and harder to throw in the towel. Family arguments.

Then half the kids lose interest in their teens and drop the activity anyway.

SallyWD · 10/12/2024 07:26

GreenTeaLikesMe · 10/12/2024 00:13

Am I the only one who is profoundly puzzled by the idea that other people "must be" jealous of parents who have a high-achieving-in-their-chosen-extra-curricular child?

Whenever I hear of cases like this, I have to say that I find myself privately thinking "Poor bastards."

I know a couple of families like this. It costs an absolute fortune and takes over the family schedule, with the financial burden and time requirements getting more extreme as time goes on. Other siblings in the family get shafted - they either get pressured into taking up the same activity (at a lower level) and feeling like a pale imitation of their sibling, or spend a lot of their life being carted around to an activity they have no active role in. Inevitably, one parent starts wanting to drop or scale back the activity after a while, but the other parent insists that the family has to keep going, partly I think because of the sunk-cost issue - so much money has been chucked into this activity so far that it becomes harder and harder to throw in the towel. Family arguments.

Then half the kids lose interest in their teens and drop the activity anyway.

Yes I agree with you. My daughter got into competitive swimming for a while and although she was successful it was a nightmare for us! I was relieved when she decided to stop!
However, in this case, it does seem odd that the friend never mentions anything about OP's child. You think she'd say "Oh wow, well done!" even if she couldn't care less about it. The silence does seem to hint at jealousy.

arethereanyleftatall · 10/12/2024 08:00

Absolutely agree @GreenTeaLikesMe

In fact, a friend of mine says and I quote 'thank goodness for my low achieving children.'
They live a very happy simple life. No expensive tutors, no getting up at 4am to drive across the country, no arguments about whose turn it is to do the mental load of organising, no declining party invitations. You see them about on long family walks, they have dinner together every day, stress free medium paying jobs which finish on time etc

fairycakes1234 · 10/12/2024 08:07

lifeturnsonadime · 09/12/2024 21:43

8i don’t see it as jealousy or malicious. I see it that rightly so your child is your world and you are obviously very proud but your child and their achievements whether locally or nationally isn’t important to them and that’s not a crime, nor does it make them rude or nasty. It doesn’t sound from your post that you are close friends so not sure why her acknowledgment is important to you. You did say they were extremely competitive when the children were younger and you didn’t bite into it, maybe she’s grown up a little and realised how annoying it is?! You do sound rather silly, who actually has time to be bothered about something so daft. Every child has its own achievements why is it so important to you for other to acknowledge them, and take umbridge with those who don’t or haven’t. I’m sorry but it’s extremely annoying and self righteous Xx*

100% this.

Op is setting herself up to be disappointed by holding unreasonable demands.

Obviously didn't read her replies where she said she is friends with this person before the kids came along

lifeturnsonadime · 10/12/2024 08:22

fairycakes1234 · 10/12/2024 08:07

Obviously didn't read her replies where she said she is friends with this person before the kids came along

I did read her replies!

The trouble is that the OP is clearly holding expectations of her 'friend' that her friend is not meeting (for whatever reason).

At some point this becomes unreasonable, in the sense that you can't force anyone to behave in the way you wish them to.

So, she is setting her self up for disappointment.

I have a child at a high level sport. Some of my friends are interested others aren't and never mention it. I don't place expectations on my friends to validate my children. I know people who do that and without exception it makes them unhappy.

The reason I put the word 'friend' in inverted commas is clearly there is a degree of competitive back story here with the tale of the sports day and the comment about being surprised the child was good at sport because mother is not. It seems to me that this is where the unreasonable expectation comes from.

Each to their own but we can't force anyone to do what we want them to do. Getting het up about it is only upsetting OP.

MummaOnThedge · 10/12/2024 09:35

Life really has taught me not to give energy to people like this. She clearly has no interest in your daughter doing well or she is just jealous and can't bare to see anyone doing well. You shouldn't concern yourself over it anymore, you should surround yourself with good people who genuinely want your daughter to do well. She won't change so don't waste your time...

pineapplesundae · 10/12/2024 19:16

Your friend always thought her child would out perform yours and it's a hard pill for her to swallow that yours has taken the spotlight. It's her problem, not yours. She is really struggling with this but don't let it bother you or your daughter. Keep up the good work.

betterangels · 10/12/2024 19:23

Snowballing1 · 09/12/2024 08:39

As I mentioned in my post, many parents commented on the class WhatsApp group after dd was mentioned in the school newsletter. The school also put up a post on social media & reshared a post from her club ... again zero. This woman usually has a like or comment on many things from what I saw on the schools sm .. only not when it comes to dd..

It seems strange that you keep an eye on who likes what. Your daughter's achievement is hers, it isn't more or less special depending on which of your friends press the 'like' button.

Coco2024 · 10/12/2024 21:44

She’s jeolous and competitive and comparing her child to your child has brought out a not very nice side of her! It’s difficult to be friends with someone like that tbh

Trishthedish · 11/12/2024 00:01

I had this throughout my dd’s prep school. When it came to year 8 there were only 4 girls left so they were split over the two classes. One was the scholarship class and my dd was put in the other class as she was friends with the other girl in the non-scholarship class. My dd was the only child in the year to gain a scholarship and none of the other girls mums congratulated her. She had never been awarded so much as a book token all the way through. It was irritating, but I had the last laugh and an academic scholarship which reduced her school fees by 25%.

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