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...to report a manager for sleeping with someone on his team?

253 replies

OutofIdeas86 · 07/12/2024 10:44

A male colleague recently received a significant, and IMO, undeserved promotion.
For context, I work in the beer industry and around 90% of all staff are male.
99% of all leaders are male.

This colleague, with no managerial experience, no has a large team of about 10 people covering large area of UK.

I spotted during an event on his first week, he seemed very 'close' to a female sales person, who has recently moved in the UK, and reports into him.

I've since found out they are sleeping together.

It's totally inappropriate, immature and an abuse of power - his is older than her, and her manager.

Shall I report it on whistleblowing number?

OP posts:
MintShaker · 08/12/2024 18:31

Don't be ridiculous. Jealousy is an awful thing, it's none of your business that he got a promotion or who he's in a relationship with.

livingafulllife · 08/12/2024 19:16

FFS op it has nothing to do with you let people be or was you hoping it was you.
Sorry i my self have slept with a boss.

Undercovercourgette · 08/12/2024 20:05

OutofIdeas86 · 07/12/2024 10:44

A male colleague recently received a significant, and IMO, undeserved promotion.
For context, I work in the beer industry and around 90% of all staff are male.
99% of all leaders are male.

This colleague, with no managerial experience, no has a large team of about 10 people covering large area of UK.

I spotted during an event on his first week, he seemed very 'close' to a female sales person, who has recently moved in the UK, and reports into him.

I've since found out they are sleeping together.

It's totally inappropriate, immature and an abuse of power - his is older than her, and her manager.

Shall I report it on whistleblowing number?

Hmm jealous of promotion clearly and using the sleeping with a coworker as an excuse for that. Mind your own I say

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/12/2024 21:27

What are their ages?
50 vs 18, 19 or 20,
40 vs above or
30 vs similar?

croydon15 · 08/12/2024 22:19

None of your business between two adults consenting.

Firethehorse · 09/12/2024 02:33

This is a tricky one because most large corporations are very hot on these topics right now. Its not really as simple as you just ignoring it because he has not only openly talked about it in front of you, but has offering her room up, ‘as she won’t need it’ so you are now complicit if things ever came to light. The female might later use the relationship against the company if things don’t go as she wants and may try to use you as proof as you knew. Other colleagues could use this knowledge to indicate they are being overlooked in favour of her.
More importantly for you, did you take the room and if so who put the claim in for the room and therefore had the expense paid to them?
Expense claims are under increasing scrutiny as budgets tighten and any hint of fraudulent activity would no doubt have consequences.
My DH has just had to sack a manager for exactly what you are talking about, affair with subordinate and hotel rooms expensed. He was glad to do it as Office dynamics were so compromised but he had absolutely no choice as it is company policy. Anyone who tried to cover for them was viewed in an extremely dim way, there were consequences.

Donsyb · 09/12/2024 17:02

You still haven’t answered the question of what the company policy is on this matter?

Noglitterallowed · 09/12/2024 18:48

You sound jealous as anything! It literally has nothing to do with you at all! They could be in a relationship that is completely above board. You need to keep your beak out really

Horsemadlady1234 · 09/12/2024 19:01

erm no! mind your own business.
sounds like bitter jealousy to me.
People can sleep with who they want

JillMW · 09/12/2024 19:08

Is he your ex? You sound awfully jealous.

GingerDoris · 09/12/2024 19:23

The company might be saving money if they are sharing a room. 😆

Swiftie1878 · 09/12/2024 21:53

Keep your beak OUT!

1HappyTraveller · 09/12/2024 23:52

“He’s older than her”

Judgy. Not sure why that is relevant or how that is any of your business tbh 🤷‍♀️

You feel his promotion is undeserved.
What about that is relevant to your question?

He’s her manager - what does your company policy say about relationships? Make your decision based on that.

Welshmonster · 10/12/2024 00:24

Are they both single or in relationships with other people and cheating? Do you have a HR dept and they have let HR know they are in a relationship? Who would you actually tell? They are both adults

bluelavender · 10/12/2024 19:33

@daisychain01 Employers now have a legal duty to take reasonable steps to prevent sexual harassment and create a safe working environment. The issue here is more about whether is is a consensual relationship or; given the age and power imbalance; whether there is harassment. A risk adverse HR team would probably want to check with both parties that the relationship is actually consensual for both parties and that conflicts of interest (such as any performance bonus) are managed

DaftyLass · 10/12/2024 19:37

What is the company policy?

Cosyblankets · 10/12/2024 19:44

Did i miss the part where it affects your job and is therefore any of your business?

bluelavender · 10/12/2024 19:48

The employment tribunal part could come later if the relationship breaks down; and the younger member of staff considers that there was harassment

rb124 · 11/12/2024 13:22

This just sounds like a "bad loser" complaint,, the "I didn't get the job, therefore they're sleeping together" type thing.
My suggestion (FWIW) would be to either just wait for the next promotion opportunity and apply for that or, if you feel so strongly that you cannot carry on in your role, ask for a transfer to a different department.
I wouldn't bother complaining to higher management unless you have absolute proof that 1. They are sleeping together AND 2. That this was the only reason this person got the promotion AND 3. That this person is not up to the job.

NBF · 11/12/2024 13:29

Is it against company policy? If not then how is it your business OP?
Also, aren't whistle blowing hotlines for safeguarding/gross misconduct situations?

I'd keep myself out of it personally

Starlight1979 · 11/12/2024 13:36

I don't understand what his promotion has to got to do with his sex life when he's the one in a more senior position?!

Surely if he was "sleeping his way to the top" he would be shagging one of the Directors or Senior Management?!

Not someone reporting in to him??

Anyway yeah, keep your nose out.

Griff1963 · 11/12/2024 13:57

Jealous much??

BadlyDrawnRoy · 11/12/2024 14:03

CuddlyDodoToy · 07/12/2024 11:11

If you know, I doubt it's a secret.

Did he get the promotion you wanted? Do you fancy him?

Before Internet dating became a thing, the workplace was the most common place to meet a life partner. My best friend had an "affair" with her boss, who is twenty years her senior, 35 years ago. They have been married for 30 years, have two adult children and are very happy.

As long as this man and your colleague are happy and they are not breaking company rules, it's no one else's business.

I think it will turn out worse for you if you report him. You will come across as bitter and jealous and that will not improve your prospects with the company.

In most companies, a manager being romantically involved with a direct report is frowned upon, at best. From a manager's point of view, it is very unprofessional. But really doesn't sound like any of the OPs business.

UnbelievableLie · 11/12/2024 14:09

This would be against every company policy I've ever come across if the person has any influence on performance reviews/promotions/bonuses for the other. They would be immediately moved to a different team and possibly disciplined for non disclosure. Of course all depending on how their two roles work together.

GreatGardenstuff · 11/12/2024 15:18

They are two completely separate issues. Your opinion regarding his promotion is irrelevant as you’re not the hiring manager. If you have a genuine grievance or concern about his work raise it with your line manager.

Second issue is the relationship between him and a member his team. Do you think the woman, or the reputation of your business is at risk? Doesn’t it contravene any formal guidelines? If yes, you could talk to your manager again or call whistleblower hotline.

From what you’ve shared it sounds like the answer is no to all these questions. You just don’t like it, which is your problem, not theirs, or the businesses.