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...to report a manager for sleeping with someone on his team?

253 replies

OutofIdeas86 · 07/12/2024 10:44

A male colleague recently received a significant, and IMO, undeserved promotion.
For context, I work in the beer industry and around 90% of all staff are male.
99% of all leaders are male.

This colleague, with no managerial experience, no has a large team of about 10 people covering large area of UK.

I spotted during an event on his first week, he seemed very 'close' to a female sales person, who has recently moved in the UK, and reports into him.

I've since found out they are sleeping together.

It's totally inappropriate, immature and an abuse of power - his is older than her, and her manager.

Shall I report it on whistleblowing number?

OP posts:
Disturbia81 · 07/12/2024 15:01

Ooral · 07/12/2024 14:35

I can smell the jealousy, not sure if it's for the promotion or the heave-ho, calm down Karen.

Awful reply

Lanzarotelady · 07/12/2024 15:13

My husband WFH, we sometimes have sex during the day when he is supposed to be working, shock horror!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 07/12/2024 15:28

Disturbia81 · 07/12/2024 15:00

@MyrtlethePurpleTurtle She did say she was much younger.

I could only spot 'younger' and 'young', not 'much younger'

PureBoggin · 07/12/2024 16:56

Disturbia81 · 07/12/2024 15:01

Awful reply

Indeed. Women can't have any feelings about anything and then talk about them without being called a Karen. It's such a lazy, unoriginal, misogynistic put down. Breaks my heart that it's often directed at women by other women.

I agree that OP should mind her own business in this case but I don't feel the need to call her names to get that point across.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 07/12/2024 22:34

Disturbia81 · 07/12/2024 15:00

@MyrtlethePurpleTurtle She did say she was much younger.

Where?

She said he was older and she was young. That could be 21 and 30, which I wouldn't say was grim ...

Thevelvelletes · 07/12/2024 22:46

Motivated by spite.

Loub1987 · 07/12/2024 22:55

Whistleblowing isn’t for gossip

lizzyBennet08 · 08/12/2024 00:24

Honestly
I work in alcohol sector and there absolutely is cross over between staff.
What exactly are you hoping will
Happen to him?

snowdropsy · 08/12/2024 00:40

I say keep your beak out! It’s not particularly wise to date your boss, but it’s also not illegal or intrinsically immoral or anything, if they’re both consenting adults, behave professionally about it and proceed carefully it could be a lifelong and happy relationship. Don’t be a dick about it and use your energy to focus on your own life.

Tricho · 08/12/2024 02:09

OutofIdeas86 · 07/12/2024 11:07

He isn't sales.

He was promoted to managing a large team with no managerial experience.

I think it's relevent because his lack of experience has lead him to sleep with his direct report which is immature and unprofessional IMO.

Sleep with someone at work, fine, but not a direct report- especially in our industry which is rife with sexual harassment!!

Hi

That may be, but what you've described is a consensual sexual relationship between two adults.

Oh and you're jealous af and vindictive.

Hth.

daisychain01 · 08/12/2024 02:41

bluelavender · 07/12/2024 11:50

Yes; the OP doesn't like the manager but do we really know that this is a fully consensual relationship? And would it not be better for aHR professional to be making sure that all parties really are content (and that this doesn't end up at an employment tribunal?)

on what grounds would this be a matter for an employment tribunal?

who would be taking the action, who would the action be against and what actual employment law is being breached?

Monty27 · 08/12/2024 03:45

@OutofIdeas86 if it doesn't affect your working day don't get involved.

DebOnDating · 08/12/2024 04:06

Yes report it. Let me tell you why. She is new to the country, doesn't know anyone, and has no backup. She NEEDS this job to survive. Now imagine the only way she can keep it is to grant sexual favors to her older manager. This is how it typically goes down... pressure and threats to do it "or else" from your superior(s). This exact dynamic is why sexual harassment laws were created.

No matter if your company has a written policy on it or not, such behaviors are inappropriate and not a good public image for managers or your company. Even if they do continue to see each other, he should not be in a position to promote, fire or adjust her salary - it's a serious conflict of interest which 99.9% of companies seriously frown upon.

Marchitectmummy · 08/12/2024 04:08

You sound like you are jealous and looking for ways to get this person into trouble. Focus on you, focus on making yourself seen, useful and the person to promote if that's what you want.

Managers aren't born managers you realise, they are promoted into it. His lack of managerial experience won't be the reason he was selected.

Edingril · 08/12/2024 04:30

So she has no thoughts of her own and is not allowed to make her own choices, yes women always need others to do their thinking for them we are living in the dark ages

Monty27 · 08/12/2024 04:32

Edingril · 08/12/2024 04:30

So she has no thoughts of her own and is not allowed to make her own choices, yes women always need others to do their thinking for them we are living in the dark ages

That's very true

ForGreyKoala · 08/12/2024 06:05

DebOnDating · 08/12/2024 04:06

Yes report it. Let me tell you why. She is new to the country, doesn't know anyone, and has no backup. She NEEDS this job to survive. Now imagine the only way she can keep it is to grant sexual favors to her older manager. This is how it typically goes down... pressure and threats to do it "or else" from your superior(s). This exact dynamic is why sexual harassment laws were created.

No matter if your company has a written policy on it or not, such behaviors are inappropriate and not a good public image for managers or your company. Even if they do continue to see each other, he should not be in a position to promote, fire or adjust her salary - it's a serious conflict of interest which 99.9% of companies seriously frown upon.

And here we are, a poster making up a story to fit their own agenda, with absolutely no way of knowing the facts.

It may shock you to know that there are plenty of woman who can make decisions for themselves. I've known many people who've had workplace romances, sometimes with people at the top of the organisations, and not once has your scenario been behind them.

SaagAloopa · 08/12/2024 06:13

Get over the promotion firstly

Firefly1987 · 08/12/2024 06:43

This week I was urgently trying to get a hotel room in london after an event. I was told by the male I could use the females hotel room - she wouldn't need it as she would be in his room.

So you were actually offered somewhere to stay and you want to pay back this kind offer by reporting him? Well if you want to stab people in the back who are nice to you go right ahead.

Is there some backstory where you've been harassed at work? Because otherwise I really don't see why you're so overinvolved in this. Really sorry if that's the case though.

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 08/12/2024 11:33

DebOnDating · 08/12/2024 04:06

Yes report it. Let me tell you why. She is new to the country, doesn't know anyone, and has no backup. She NEEDS this job to survive. Now imagine the only way she can keep it is to grant sexual favors to her older manager. This is how it typically goes down... pressure and threats to do it "or else" from your superior(s). This exact dynamic is why sexual harassment laws were created.

No matter if your company has a written policy on it or not, such behaviors are inappropriate and not a good public image for managers or your company. Even if they do continue to see each other, he should not be in a position to promote, fire or adjust her salary - it's a serious conflict of interest which 99.9% of companies seriously frown upon.

Maybe she's a really confident person, who has moved country under her own steam, javing a great time and is enjoying a new job and relationship?

Disturbia81 · 08/12/2024 15:54

@PureBoggin Yeah can't stand it.

PrimoPiatti · 08/12/2024 17:43

Doe the company have a policy on such issues?

GoldenGail · 08/12/2024 17:56

OutofIdeas86 · 07/12/2024 11:04

I find it crazy that he was promoted, but I work in a very different function so not jealous.
I noticed on a night out they were very close. We work in hospitality/ beer industry and I had taken clients out - so it was inappropriate as they were usual a work 'hosting' event effectively a date.
This week I was urgently trying to get a hotel room in london after an event. I was told by the male I could use the females hotel room - she wouldn't need it as she would be in his room.

I just thought it was gross and it pisses me off my company is paying for them to have sex in hotels.

Not least she is young and just moved to the country.

You are coming across as spiteful and jealous. She’s a big girl and can make her own choices. If it’s not affecting your job or hurting you then it’s not your business

midlifeattheoasis · 08/12/2024 18:13

Just keep out of it. You won't get thanked

LaDamaDeElche · 08/12/2024 18:28

No, you should just mind your own business.